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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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MB quality slips

Lexus has 162 problems per 100 owners, MB --- 327. Ouch!

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Since their 1998 linkup with Chrysler, executives at Daimler have boasted about how Mercedes-Benz would show its poor American cousin how to build more dependable and desirable vehicles.

But Chrysler and its Dodge, Jeep and now-defunct Plymouth brands all out-ranked Mercedes, which had 327 problems per 100 vehicles, up from 318 problems in last year's survey.

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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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LOL! Man, we've known this for a while.

No one buys a Mercedes for reliability anymore. Hell, when we drove our SL home my dad muttered "Might as well go back to the dealer now!" before we got into the driveway.
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DFW01E55
Lexus has 162 problems per 100 owners]
Lexus having problems? Gee i never
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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Lexus having problems? Gee i never
Dude, you rolled your eyes at the LOWEST results aka the BEST RESULTS (Lexus) of the survey.

http://www.jdpower.com/pdf/2004055.pdf

If u can read.
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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[QUOTE=1SICKLEX]Dude, you rolled your eyes at the LOWEST results aka the BEST RESULTS (Lexus) of the QUOTE]

Isn't Lexus supposed to be a problem free car?

Guess what we have an 04 GS300 and the heated seats dont work and the sunroof rattles.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DFW01E55
Lexus has 162 problems per 100 owners, MB --- 327. Ouch!

Last 2 sentences of the article:
Since their 1998 linkup with Chrysler, executives at Daimler have boasted about how Mercedes-Benz would show its poor American cousin how to build more dependable and desirable vehicles.

But Chrysler and its Dodge, Jeep and now-defunct Plymouth brands all out-ranked Mercedes, which had 327 problems per 100 vehicles, up from 318 problems in last year's survey.

Slip slidin' away
Can you give me a reference to the JD powers site you got this from?
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Pbglas
Can you give me a reference to the JD powers site you got this from?
See post 4 above from 1sicklex.

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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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I believe this is better than what they were at a year or two ago, when they were really suffering with quality. At least they are improving upon their quality, such as with late '04 and now '05 models, seem to have little troubles so far...

And it's 302, not 327? That's w hat it says from the PDF file.

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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by GDawgC220
And it's 302, not 327? That's w hat it says from the PDF file.

The 302 is for Daimler Chrysler. The 327 is for MB.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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More advanced and technological gadgets in the car, more chances things could go wrong. MB is risking that, but I'm glad my car isn't bugged out.
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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MB Quality

MB knows and is focusing on raising their quality rankings. JD Power and associates 2004 IQS results show it.

MB is in the top ten for the entire model line overall.

20% decrease in reported problems over last year.

MB is now above the industry average overall and above the luxury brand average. MB is the top ranked German model line.

The E-class and M-class, which is our bread and butter, both improved dramatically. E-class 37% improvement over 2003. ML had a 32% reduction in reported problems compared to 2003 and is now the 2nd highest ranked "entry luxury SUV" (behind you know who).

While MB is proud of this, they make no bones about the fact they are not satisfied yet.
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Well said, Elder. Could not have said it better myself.
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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Who would have thought that you would see Hyundai, Buick, Jaguar, and Mercury above Mercedes in quality? WTF????

Porsche went from first to just about last in one year. Must be the Cayenne!
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Originally Posted by DFW01E55
The 302 is for Daimler Chrysler. The 327 is for MB.

Sorry, but I must correct you. The 302 is Ford, the 327 is Chevy. Cubic inches that is!
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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Dude, you rolled your eyes at the LOWEST results aka the BEST RESULTS (Lexus) of the survey.

http://www.jdpower.com/pdf/2004055.pdf

If u can read.

There is nnnoooo way ford gets better numbers than MB!!! I used to have ford Expedition which was parked at repair shop at least once every 2 months for 3 years. Since I got '03 e320, only problem I've had was a sunroof (already 30k miles on it) In my opinion jdpower is one big b/s!!!! I don't know where they get their statistics from, but ain't right to me.
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