Headers without sacrificing low end power
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From: Valley of the Sun, Arizona
C63, SL55, E55, CLS55, ML63, C55
On our headers I wouldn't coat them. Good stainless steel is a poor conductor of heat. Meaning it does not spill heat into the engine bay and surrounding areas. Other lesser quality headers or mild steel headers would. We use 16 gauge 304 USA stainless steel. Being that most every other header available is thinner 18 gauge steel (some I would even question if it is actually stainless.) will be more prone to heat transfer as the material itself is thinner. During some of our R&D a while back we found that our headers cooled off very fast after driving. I remember putting my hand on the header to remove o2 sensors and was shocked at how fast the header cooled down. With that said, there are probably some benefits of coating our headers, but its probably very negligible. I certainly would be interested to see a test done on our headers.
Former Vendor of MBWorld
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,305
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From: Valley of the Sun, Arizona
C63, SL55, E55, CLS55, ML63, C55
Also if you want MBH call the manufacturer,
Jakey Fab,
1602-687-8270
You can also get them from Dyno Comp
480) 596-0500
and from Weistec Engineering.
Spend the Extra 1k on cams or throttlebody, the chinese headers are great.
Jakey Fab,
1602-687-8270
You can also get them from Dyno Comp
480) 596-0500
and from Weistec Engineering.
Spend the Extra 1k on cams or throttlebody, the chinese headers are great.
Former Vendor of MBWorld
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,305
Likes: 93
From: Valley of the Sun, Arizona
C63, SL55, E55, CLS55, ML63, C55
Before you fall for that ^^
Watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rTqPm0HyOc
The Chinese headers FIT. and they fit well. literally hundreds of people running them.
Watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rTqPm0HyOc
The Chinese headers FIT. and they fit well. literally hundreds of people running them.
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From: SoCal
2024 c300 , 2006 E55, 2005 e320, 2007 gl450, 2025 glc300, 2025 e450
On our headers I wouldn't coat them. Good stainless steel is a poor conductor of heat. Meaning it does not spill heat into the engine bay and surrounding areas. Other lesser quality headers or mild steel headers would. We use 16 gauge 304 USA stainless steel. Being that most every other header available is thinner 18 gauge steel (some I would even question if it is actually stainless.) will be more prone to heat transfer as the material itself is thinner. During some of our R&D a while back we found that our headers cooled off very fast after driving. I remember putting my hand on the header to remove o2 sensors and was shocked at how fast the header cooled down. With that said, there are probably some benefits of coating our headers, but its probably very negligible. I certainly would be interested to see a test done on our headers.
Spend the savings on Throttlebody or camshafts,
Check out this comparison thread, the most expensive are not the best
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...surements.html
Check out this comparison thread, the most expensive are not the best
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...surements.html
I don’t want to take sides
I really don’t want to take sides,
but honestly speak MBH and ARH are prompting better quality to justify the price but i think there customers changed not the original owners of the cars any more , so maybe develop new products for them with same quality And different price range.
as for Chinese what i do know this
if you give them specs and followed up on the quality they will do for you what you asked for ,
but if you are buying Chinese brand and Chinese specs it will be shady
but at the end of the day i think all current E55 owners are value customers and measure Dollar to hp
but honestly speak MBH and ARH are prompting better quality to justify the price but i think there customers changed not the original owners of the cars any more , so maybe develop new products for them with same quality And different price range.
as for Chinese what i do know this
if you give them specs and followed up on the quality they will do for you what you asked for ,
but if you are buying Chinese brand and Chinese specs it will be shady
but at the end of the day i think all current E55 owners are value customers and measure Dollar to hp
Chinese LTH...you can still enjoy having power without breaking the bank. Hooah
Been there done that with Chinese LTH, no lift in my garage. Jack stands & Pry bar are my best friend on many other DIY mods. No regret and would highly recommend Super Cheap (as in cost) Chinese LTH! Instant power and saved tons of money for other mods. 11s in 1/4 with DA at 3900 plus that day. Know couple more 55 running 11s with just Chinese LTH, 80mm scp, HE, & Tune, and another 55 with same bolt on plus 100 shot of nitrous running 10s.
Chinese LTH...you can still enjoy having power without breaking the bank. Hooah
Chinese LTH...you can still enjoy having power without breaking the bank. Hooah

Thank you very much for the feed back
Glad to help!
Another thought on mids, cost might seem effective with less power; however, if you don’t know how to cut and weld...additional labor cost from Indy or exhaust shop.
mids $500-700
tune: $250-350
install: $500 +
Where LTH you can DIY if you’re somewhat mechanical inclined. First time “Go” on installed with no mechanical background; just perseverance, problem solving, jack stands & a pry bar. Hooah
Another thought on mids, cost might seem effective with less power; however, if you don’t know how to cut and weld...additional labor cost from Indy or exhaust shop.
mids $500-700
tune: $250-350
install: $500 +
Where LTH you can DIY if you’re somewhat mechanical inclined. First time “Go” on installed with no mechanical background; just perseverance, problem solving, jack stands & a pry bar. Hooah
Glad to help!
Another thought on mids, cost might seem effective with less power; however, if you don’t know how to cut and weld...additional labor cost from Indy or exhaust shop.
mids $500-700
tune: $250-350
install: $500 +
Where LTH you can DIY if you’re somewhat mechanical inclined. First time “Go” on installed with no mechanical background; just perseverance, problem solving, jack stands & a pry bar. Hooah
Another thought on mids, cost might seem effective with less power; however, if you don’t know how to cut and weld...additional labor cost from Indy or exhaust shop.
mids $500-700
tune: $250-350
install: $500 +
Where LTH you can DIY if you’re somewhat mechanical inclined. First time “Go” on installed with no mechanical background; just perseverance, problem solving, jack stands & a pry bar. Hooah








