W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Jul 6, 2019 | 04:19 PM
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hello MBH,, i am curious what your position on jet coating these stainless headers is to keep engine bay heat down ? thanks !
On our headers I wouldn't coat them. Good stainless steel is a poor conductor of heat. Meaning it does not spill heat into the engine bay and surrounding areas. Other lesser quality headers or mild steel headers would. We use 16 gauge 304 USA stainless steel. Being that most every other header available is thinner 18 gauge steel (some I would even question if it is actually stainless.) will be more prone to heat transfer as the material itself is thinner. During some of our R&D a while back we found that our headers cooled off very fast after driving. I remember putting my hand on the header to remove o2 sensors and was shocked at how fast the header cooled down. With that said, there are probably some benefits of coating our headers, but its probably very negligible. I certainly would be interested to see a test done on our headers.
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Old Jul 6, 2019 | 07:36 PM
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Before you fall for that ^^

Watch this video


The Chinese headers FIT. and they fit well. literally hundreds of people running them.
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Old Jul 6, 2019 | 07:57 PM
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Also if you want MBH call the manufacturer,

Jakey Fab,
1602-687-8270

You can also get them from Dyno Comp
480) 596-0500

and from Weistec Engineering.

Spend the Extra 1k on cams or throttlebody, the chinese headers are great.
Phil, don't be an idiot. Obviously you are a shady person. We are the manufacturer, Jakey Fab is my best friend and business partners other company where he makes side by side and utv exhaust. Post like this speak volumes as to how you are and are most likely a TOU violation on MBworld.
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Old Jul 6, 2019 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by VictoryRoadPerformance
Before you fall for that ^^

Watch this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rTqPm0HyOc

The Chinese headers FIT. and they fit well. literally hundreds of people running them.
Lol Phil, the video thumbnail literally shows him using a pry bar.
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Old Jul 6, 2019 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MBH motorsports
On our headers I wouldn't coat them. Good stainless steel is a poor conductor of heat. Meaning it does not spill heat into the engine bay and surrounding areas. Other lesser quality headers or mild steel headers would. We use 16 gauge 304 USA stainless steel. Being that most every other header available is thinner 18 gauge steel (some I would even question if it is actually stainless.) will be more prone to heat transfer as the material itself is thinner. During some of our R&D a while back we found that our headers cooled off very fast after driving. I remember putting my hand on the header to remove o2 sensors and was shocked at how fast the header cooled down. With that said, there are probably some benefits of coating our headers, but its probably very negligible. I certainly would be interested to see a test done on our headers.
Coating and wrapping won’t fry the alternator 😀
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Old Jul 6, 2019 | 08:14 PM
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Spend the savings on Throttlebody or camshafts,

Check out this comparison thread, the most expensive are not the best

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...surements.html
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Old Jul 7, 2019 | 01:07 AM
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I don’t want to take sides

I really don’t want to take sides,
but honestly speak MBH and ARH are prompting better quality to justify the price but i think there customers changed not the original owners of the cars any more , so maybe develop new products for them with same quality And different price range.



as for Chinese what i do know this
if you give them specs and followed up on the quality they will do for you what you asked for ,
but if you are buying Chinese brand and Chinese specs it will be shady

but at the end of the day i think all current E55 owners are value customers and measure Dollar to hp
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Old Jul 8, 2019 | 01:48 AM
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Lol Phil, the video thumbnail literally shows him using a pry bar.
Been there done that with Chinese LTH, no lift in my garage. Jack stands & Pry bar are my best friend on many other DIY mods. No regret and would highly recommend Super Cheap (as in cost) Chinese LTH! Instant power and saved tons of money for other mods. 11s in 1/4 with DA at 3900 plus that day. Know couple more 55 running 11s with just Chinese LTH, 80mm scp, HE, & Tune, and another 55 with same bolt on plus 100 shot of nitrous running 10s.

Chinese LTH...you can still enjoy having power without breaking the bank. Hooah
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Old Jul 8, 2019 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MSG 55G
Been there done that with Chinese LTH, no lift in my garage. Jack stands & Pry bar are my best friend on many other DIY mods. No regret and would highly recommend Super Cheap (as in cost) Chinese LTH! Instant power and saved tons of money for other mods. 11s in 1/4 with DA at 3900 plus that day. Know couple more 55 running 11s with just Chinese LTH, 80mm scp, HE, & Tune, and another 55 with same bolt on plus 100 shot of nitrous running 10s.

Chinese LTH...you can still enjoy having power without breaking the bank. Hooah

Thank you very much for the feed back
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Old Jul 8, 2019 | 03:06 AM
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Thank you very much for the feed back
Glad to help!

Another thought on mids, cost might seem effective with less power; however, if you don’t know how to cut and weld...additional labor cost from Indy or exhaust shop.
mids $500-700
tune: $250-350
install: $500 +
Where LTH you can DIY if you’re somewhat mechanical inclined. First time “Go” on installed with no mechanical background; just perseverance, problem solving, jack stands & a pry bar. Hooah
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Old Jul 8, 2019 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MSG 55G
Glad to help!

Another thought on mids, cost might seem effective with less power; however, if you don’t know how to cut and weld...additional labor cost from Indy or exhaust shop.
mids $500-700
tune: $250-350
install: $500 +
Where LTH you can DIY if you’re somewhat mechanical inclined. First time “Go” on installed with no mechanical background; just perseverance, problem solving, jack stands & a pry bar. Hooah
I also need in both cases to find. Cats that fit to decrease smell and pass emissions
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Old Jul 8, 2019 | 04:27 AM
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I also need in both cases to find. Cats that fit to decrease smell and pass emissions
No help here on cats for smell but heard there are very helpful smog shop for our predicaments. You in California?
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Old Jul 8, 2019 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MSG 55G
No help here on cats for smell but heard there are very helpful smog shop for our predicaments. You in California?
Some people told to weld kooks green , some told me tonuse pyoes brand for mustang
no not California
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