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Old Sep 24, 2022 | 11:05 AM
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Dyno numbers with basic bolt-ons ...

What's up gang,

Getting the car dyno'd just for curiosity on Monday morning - car has 83mm upper, OTS Eurocharged 93 octane tune, and your basic cooling/recover mods. Weather is in the high 60s low 70s nowadays where I am. Will post dyno sheet when I have it ... looking for 440-450rwhp and 500rwtq. This car feels noticeably stronger than my previous two 06s... I know all dynos are finicky, depends on the day/shop/prep, but I'll have a good idea where the car is. No more power mods, perfect street daily driver set up for around town.

Stay tuned...



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Old Sep 24, 2022 | 11:34 AM
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Will it be on a dynojet?
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Old Sep 24, 2022 | 12:21 PM
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Will it be on a dynojet?
Yes sir. It is my Supra mechanic's shop... asked him if he'd be willing to dyno a German car and he was up for it.
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Old Sep 24, 2022 | 01:16 PM
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How are the whp measured on these dynos? The numbers I see from dynos in the US seem to be noticeably higher than what I've seen here in Germany for example.

Here a stock E55 would have around 480hp at the crank and drive train loss its about 100hp, so we'd say 380whp
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Old Sep 24, 2022 | 03:32 PM
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Dynos can be a poor measurement of performance. And the type of dyno and how it's calibrated can have a huge impact on results.

My car: 05 E55 wagon with 72mm upper, split cooling, larger front mount intercooler, kleemann midlength headers, no cats, K&N, and custom dyno tuned by a speed shop in Atlanta. RWHP from a mustang dyno? 424hp. If you assume 15% drivetrain loss that's about the same as a stock E55.
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Old Sep 24, 2022 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sulaco
Dynos can be a poor measurement of performance. And the type of dyno and how it's calibrated can have a huge impact on results.

My car: 05 E55 wagon with 72mm upper, split cooling, larger front mount intercooler, kleemann midlength headers, no cats, K&N, and custom dyno tuned by a speed shop in Atlanta. RWHP from a mustang dyno? 424hp. If you assume 15% drivetrain loss that's about the same as a stock E55.
Mustang dyno's are terrible and easy to maniputlate. The standard is dynojet. All the big engine builders, nascar etc use dynojet.

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Old Sep 24, 2022 | 04:17 PM
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Mustang dyno's are terrible and easy to maniputlate. The standard is dynojet. All the big engine builders, nascar etc use dynojet.

R.K.
Yeah, I'm not worried. The car has had about 80,000 hard miles with the mods and has been problem free. I've outrun FBO e92 335's, Dragy says I'm good for 0-60 in under 4s. I'm not complaining, just saying dynos can be a finnicky way to test your car. Real world "butt dyno" or a prepped quarter mile track are a much better measurement.
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Old Sep 24, 2022 | 06:07 PM
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It seems the drivetrain loss is the key factor, as you use 15% and all dyno charts I've seen here were roughly 95-110hp power loss on M113k.

With a 72mm pulley it could be, that your IATs are too high on the dyno and the car limits power.

But yeah acceleration times are also a good indicator for power, but there's other things that come to play here too, like weight, grip and weather. It's nice to see the power and torque curve though.
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Old Sep 24, 2022 | 06:24 PM
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I agree with you all - I've never used a dyno to measure performance and never will, hence why I said just for curiosity. This is more of a "let's see what she does and just to see the graph (like Uncle said above)" sorta thing. I know for an E55, this car has and is performing better than my prior two with the same mods.
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my stock pulley car and a car with a 83mm on the same day.


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Old Sep 25, 2022 | 06:14 AM
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Thanks for sharing the graph. Was interesting to see how the curve is on a stock engine.

Mine has some bolt ons and different cams and you can see the difference of the curve itself.

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Old Sep 26, 2022 | 09:30 AM
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Thank you for the graphs, folks. Appt changed to tomorrow am (I had a work conflict) so I'll be sure to post back once I have the graph and numbers ...

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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 12:15 PM
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Interested in your numbers as I have the exact same set up minus the tune and pulley.
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 03:28 PM
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Dyno day was postponed to next Tuesday, guys... I'll be sure to post for everyone next week. Stay tuned...
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 06:09 PM
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Why y'all wait feel free to check out my build thread with various dynos of each mod I've done
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lost27
Why y'all wait feel free to check out my build thread with various dynos of each mod I've done
Did you get a baseline dyno before any mods?
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Old Sep 28, 2022 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Sulaco
Did you get a baseline dyno before any mods?
Unfortunately no, the SC pulley bearing was already coming apart when I went in to get a baseline so we skipped that. There are more than plenty of stock dynos floating around though.
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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 06:53 AM
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What happened with this?
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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by C_Note
What happened with this?
headed there this morning… work conflicts always getting in the way…

53’ , chilly wind and breezy, perfect dyno day.
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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 10:30 AM
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Pull 1:

I’m very happy with the results. A bit rich, but I guess a box shelf tune is safe for a reason. Mods in sig, I knew this car felt significantly stronger than my prior 06s right off the bat when it was stock…




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Yep, damn near right on the money with your mods and tune. ~10hp more than mine w/ similar mods: https://mbworld.org/forums/c219/7351...ml#post7760964
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Second pull was 468/542 but spun a bit - this car is a monster.
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Get a good set of longtubes and call it a day: https://mbworld.org/forums/c219/7351...ml#post7784990 the 83 pully will help keep the IAT cooler w/o having to go nuts with cooling mods. My build I tried to make as much HP/TQ as possible w/o having to increase too much boost.
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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 12:46 PM
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Thats pretty much what I am aiming for, cool
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I'm also using a 3mm smaller stock pulley and and you can definitely get some power out of the car without upping the boost too much.
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