E55 vs. 911 Turbo
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2000 W210 E55->2003 R230 SL500->2004 W211 E55->2007 997TT+2007 E63->2010 GLK350->2012 E550 4matic
Originally Posted by ENARANG
I have raced my friend who has a 996TT and he has consistently beaten me. Every single time we have raced I would have to say I have never won.
I used my buddies '05 E55 it was stock and I raced a stock 996TT. I guess my friend is good at racing cause I got beat off the line and still got beat even after we were goin up past 100.
I used my buddies '05 E55 it was stock and I raced a stock 996TT. I guess my friend is good at racing cause I got beat off the line and still got beat even after we were goin up past 100.
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Originally Posted by ntguru
Marcus, that 1.8 is very good--is that on street tires? Is that with traction control on or off? Did you say if your buddy's TT was a manual or tip? How long are your rear tires looking to last?
1.8 on stock continentals. No traction contol. Friend's 996 is a 6-speed. My rear tires lasted about 25k miles before I replaced them.
I haven't taken a E55 up past maybe 120 but IMHO the TT feels more solid and planted at 170 than the E55 did at 120. Granted I never owned an E55 but I think driving one all the time wouldn't have changed my mind that much.
I have the E55 up to 100+ just about every week (very late night highway driving) and I constantly am told by people how smooth the car feels and if they closed their eyes would have no idea the car was going as fast as it was. I don't think it makes sense to compare "solidness" of a sports car with a sporty sedan, but the E55 is extremely solid at 100+... it feels right at home.
Most of the freeways around here are dead in the 3am-4am times during the week...I had 198 showing on the digital speedo on TT, which I think had to be optimistic.
We have some highways out a little west (about an hour or so) which are extremely dead too... my good friend has done 213mph (calculated using rpm and tire size) in his supercharged Viper GTS. Fastest I've been out there is 180mph speedo indicated.
I still may end up with an E55 when the C32 lease is over but I wish MB would offer a sportier "CSL" style E55! I'm not surprised your E55 kept up at higher speeds where weight is almost a non-factor.
The race wasn't even really an even start. He took off after someone else, and was coming up to me when I hit the throttle... he was still pulling on me until we got to 100mph where the pulling stopped and we stayed dead even.
Dyno #s for the E55 are extremely deceptive because of the massive power loss we get from heat soak. My car on the dyno made 410rwhp, but with the cooling effect of 100mph winds on this car I'm sure I was making more power to the ground than he was. My car lost 30rwhp on back to back dyno runs because of head soak.
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A guy that works for me has an 01 911 TT. I ran him from a 30 mph roll, and I pulled away from him to his disbelief. He was actually on his way to have his car dyno'd. His comment was his car was not running properly, until his dyno results came back at 384 rwhp... Which was normal for that car... He sold the car 4 weeks later, and wants to get an MB55??
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Originally Posted by jkrutch
I have both and finally have the answer. The ONLY caveat here is my 996 only has 1,800 miles and isn't up to full potential yet. This is my 3rd 996TT and at around 3-4k miles there is a noticeable difference in how hard it pulls.
My wife and I are side by side from a roll at around 25 MPH. She's in the E55...we go on the count of 3. She immediately pulled me. I was in 2nd and in lower revs, but the Porsche revs quickly. Even once I had full RPM and boost the E55 still pulled ever slightly. I banged my 2-3 shift and it didn't matter. From a dead stop I would have had a jump. 1st gear in the Porsche is lightning quick, but the E55 is a faster car once at speed. I have always suspected this and my wife helped prove it. She loved winning!
My wife and I are side by side from a roll at around 25 MPH. She's in the E55...we go on the count of 3. She immediately pulled me. I was in 2nd and in lower revs, but the Porsche revs quickly. Even once I had full RPM and boost the E55 still pulled ever slightly. I banged my 2-3 shift and it didn't matter. From a dead stop I would have had a jump. 1st gear in the Porsche is lightning quick, but the E55 is a faster car once at speed. I have always suspected this and my wife helped prove it. She loved winning!
Very nice car collection BTW. Woman just picked up a QX56 as well and I was considering a 996TT but for now have decided to try out something a little different (and a lot cheaper!) with the '06 Z06. Initially I was planning on maybe picking up a '02-'03 996TT. Nothing is written in stone yet, but we shall see. Just thought I'd compliment you on the cars, great minds think alike...
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I also own both and concur with Jkrutch. When rolling, the E55 will beat a stock tt. From a dead start, and a good driver, tt wins. At the very high end, tt wins again (140+).
My tt is at 600hp so ... no contest.
My tt is at 600hp so ... no contest.
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Originally Posted by Marcus Frost
...but for now have decided to try out something a little different (and a lot cheaper!) with the '06 Z06...
What color did you order? I have been tossing around the idea of ordering a black one. They look menacing in black. My alternate color was yellow. The performance is just to good for the price point so I have been struggling with whether or not to grab one.
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I have an E55 and 996TT-S (ie X50). The E55 is very fast in a straight line. It is a great car but it comes nowhere near the TT once the road starts bending. In difficult (such as wet) conditions, getting power to the road is very hard in the E55.
They are just different cars. They feel different, handle very differently and comparing 0-60 times is just pointless.
They are just different cars. They feel different, handle very differently and comparing 0-60 times is just pointless.
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Originally Posted by JasonC
It is a great car but it comes nowhere near the TT once the road starts bending.
Originally Posted by JasonC
... and comparing 0-60 times is just pointless.
Having owned all types of different cars from Porsches, Lambos, Ferraris and now Mercs, I can say that I am truly impressed with the power of the E55. I would never compare it to my Porsches because I always had modified ones, but stock for stock, the E55 will hold its own.
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Victor,
Mine will be black with black interior and silver accents. Bottom line is that it is one hell of a deal for what it is. They've improved the things that bothered me the most to an acceptable level so I'm going to shoot for it. All the stereotypes and etc are just ignorant nonsense. I drive a car because of what it delivers, and yes image is a factor, but the numbers don't lie.
I also agree with your points on the 911. People will immediately throw in the handling factor when their car is contested. We have a lot of cards we can throw in as well... rear passenger comfort, ameneties, utility, $40k cheaper pricetag, etc... two different cars yet people still feel that they need to be compared... the fact that the E55 is basically as fast as a 911TT is just a testatement to it's acceleration... it isn't a sports car and was never intended to be. It's just using a benchmark for sports cars to put in perspective what it's able to accomplish... not saying the E55 is better than the 911TT.
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Mine will be black with black interior and silver accents. Bottom line is that it is one hell of a deal for what it is. They've improved the things that bothered me the most to an acceptable level so I'm going to shoot for it. All the stereotypes and etc are just ignorant nonsense. I drive a car because of what it delivers, and yes image is a factor, but the numbers don't lie.
I also agree with your points on the 911. People will immediately throw in the handling factor when their car is contested. We have a lot of cards we can throw in as well... rear passenger comfort, ameneties, utility, $40k cheaper pricetag, etc... two different cars yet people still feel that they need to be compared... the fact that the E55 is basically as fast as a 911TT is just a testatement to it's acceleration... it isn't a sports car and was never intended to be. It's just using a benchmark for sports cars to put in perspective what it's able to accomplish... not saying the E55 is better than the 911TT.
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Originally Posted by W210
Perhaps some driving lessons from Mrs. Krutch is in order?
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Hold the presses everyone:
Its great we want to compare the 2 cars - and give the nod to the Porsche in cornering, but.............................
lets say I go with 19x9 front and 255-35-19 and//19x10 rear and 295-30-19
better yet......20x9 front and 265-30-20 and//20x10.5 rear and 305-25-20
Stage 3 with enough cooling from EVO or Kleeman,
lowering module, 2.82 OR 3.06 LSD rear gear and POOF......
Our E-55's will be a legit problem for any production car.
BTW-If I'm prudent with my $'s, I'm still under 100K with this set-up!!
Take noth'in away from Porshe, but watch out for our E-55's!!
Its great we want to compare the 2 cars - and give the nod to the Porsche in cornering, but.............................
lets say I go with 19x9 front and 255-35-19 and//19x10 rear and 295-30-19
better yet......20x9 front and 265-30-20 and//20x10.5 rear and 305-25-20
Stage 3 with enough cooling from EVO or Kleeman,
lowering module, 2.82 OR 3.06 LSD rear gear and POOF......
Our E-55's will be a legit problem for any production car.
BTW-If I'm prudent with my $'s, I'm still under 100K with this set-up!!
Take noth'in away from Porshe, but watch out for our E-55's!!
Last edited by Kens-E55; Feb 2, 2005 at 11:50 PM.
