Powerchip W212 E63 tune - EPIC FAIL
09-10-2010, 11:51 AM
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I was looking into purchasing the tune from Powerchip at the time I picked up my car, but decided against Powerchip tuning my car after I spoke to a person who answered the phone called Wayne. What a strange businessman.... It is interesting hearing that others had a negative Powerchp experience also. I guess others who have a Powerchip tuned W212 E63 will ask if thier car feels faster or tuned??
racer M, did you ever get a dynograph printout from Powerchip to support their claims as they said?
I was looking into purchasing the tune from Powerchip at the time I picked up my car, but decided against Powerchip tuning my car after I spoke to a person who answered the phone called Wayne. What a strange businessman.... It is interesting hearing that others had a negative Powerchp experience also. I guess others who have a Powerchip tuned W212 E63 will ask if thier car feels faster or tuned??
racer M, did you ever get a dynograph printout from Powerchip to support their claims as they said?
My car has nothing to do with the OP's car, I was dyno'd on a different day in different conditions with 1k miles- my files were never transferred to the other test car. My car was dyno'd stock, read, redyno'd with tune and I drove home to get beers.
see above and see my thread too- their dyno got a new software update and that made the numbers even lower. I have no issue coming in 30 hp less, my goal was to see what the gains were with a tune within 15 minutes of a stock dyno and I got it. The car was not moved off the dyno nor were the fans adjusted. My temps were less than 100 degrees but not much less.
see above and see my thread too- their dyno got a new software update and that made the numbers even lower. I have no issue coming in 30 hp less, my goal was to see what the gains were with a tune within 15 minutes of a stock dyno and I got it. The car was not moved off the dyno nor were the fans adjusted. My temps were less than 100 degrees but not much less.
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09-10-2010, 12:06 PM
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None fast enough!
Is it possible that OE tuning had a stock E63 file because Vic's car was also tuned there? I'm sure they pulled his stock file before tuning his car. Is it not possible to put Vic's stock file on the OPs E63? That would lead me to the question of who's car was tuned first? The OP's or Vic's?
It's also possible that neither the OP's nor Vic's E63 was the first W212 E63 that they've tuned, and they already had a stock file.
Or maybe I have no clue what I'm talking about, which is absolutely possible.
It's also possible that neither the OP's nor Vic's E63 was the first W212 E63 that they've tuned, and they already had a stock file.
Or maybe I have no clue what I'm talking about, which is absolutely possible.
You can take the file from one car (tuned or stock), go through it and see what was altered and overlay it in another ECU, but that is not a quick process.
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09-10-2010, 01:23 PM
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No they were about 2 weeks apart and I kinda touched on that earlier. How you strap a car down can also make a difference in the numbers. Also Vics car has 20" Wheels that can possibly change the way the dyno reads (rolling diameter). The important part is that the gain was almost the same on two different cars without removing the cars from the dyno during tuning changes. Any real tuner will tell you if you unstrap a car from a rolling dyno can change the final numbers and will make any numbers after that useless to compare to previous dyno results especially 2 weeks apart. If you read the the OP's dyno chart all the runs were done in 100degree weather vs Vics car which was likely cooler.
Please don't believe me on this. Take your car to any dyno shop. Then strap the car one way and dyno it, then re-strap it a different way and dyno it again and see the difference for yourself.
On another note, most skilled dyno operators are very consistent between strap downs. Alex and his crew at Gintani are very skilled and I would doubt that the variation between their strap down methods is that great to begin with
09-10-2010, 01:57 PM
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Here's a Dyno DIY that explains a lot of this.
http://www.bimmertech.info/dyno-diy/
Never in my life have I ever dealt with someone so unprofessional, rude, and assuming. After reading some of the posts he has made on the internet, while representing his company, I can't even comprehend how Powechip can remain in business.
09-10-2010, 02:41 PM
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This is turning into the peanut gallery fight... OP posted, PC posted and its time to close.
FYI- they video'd my car too- nothing more than a camera filming my car on a dyno with no other intention than to show the before and after.
Take your personal agendas to PM or some other medium. And PG I could care less if it read 400hp or 300hp, I just wanted unmanipulated numbers of before and after. You seem to have an agenda with jon since your history shows nothing here in regards to MBZ posts.
FYI- they video'd my car too- nothing more than a camera filming my car on a dyno with no other intention than to show the before and after.
Take your personal agendas to PM or some other medium. And PG I could care less if it read 400hp or 300hp, I just wanted unmanipulated numbers of before and after. You seem to have an agenda with jon since your history shows nothing here in regards to MBZ posts.
