2012 e63 Wagon
MB in Toronto has a promo that they are giving out a free set of winter wheels and tires for anyone who takes delivery in December
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
And if it had the premium leather upgrade on it, is the dash MB Tex or leather? Thanks, and congrats.
So far the car is very nice. 250 miles so no hard full throttle runs.
The biggest improvement in the car is the Suspension especially the front. My old E63 Wagon never give me much confidence when pushing it on freeway curved on ramps. This car is much better and dives in and grabbs so much better. Engine is nice and seems to be faster than my old wagon, not a ton faster but faster. Exhaust Sound is excellent. Transmission is good so far. Driving mostly in Sport +, and some in Sport. In Sport + shift changes at times has been slow (maybe if I was on the throttle harder this might change). Steering is very good, and overall ride is good although a little too harsh in Comfort Setting. Should be a liitle more forgiving in Comfort Mode. Have not driven it yet in the stiffer settings but i am guessing it may be too harsh for around town lousy roads. Stereo is decent, needs better bass or better subwoofer. Command System is excellent meaning Nav, Phone, I Pod, Voice commands. Diamond White is a great color. Sunrood is ok would rather have flush in the roof when open but don't use it all that often (sunroof when open sits on top of roof). Backseat sunroof is nice except nobody hardly rides in my backseat. The car had Backseat Entertainment which I don't need or want and it makes the headrests look to big. Biggest Complaint would be the Roof rack. Why have one on an AMG car??? But at least they could have painted it Gloss Black to fit the A Pillar trim colors and it would then disappear more. I will have it painted soon. Another minor complaint is how the back seat goes down. Old Wagon the seat pulled up and the backs fits flush to the bottom of the floor. the new car backs sit on top of the seats so they don't go down as far flat. Only a problem for me because my Road Bike doesn't fit as good as before but it still works. The car is much tighter and smooth feeling compared to the old car (which had 50,000 miles and 5 years old). The Eco Stop Start would take getting used too if you drive in Comfort Mode which I don't. The Car looks really good. No need for wheels and tires for a while.
Well, they can at least fit in a smaller 3rd row seat even if they are not the same size as regular E wagon 3rd row seat--to at least increase the utility of things. Man, with that space, I can haul back sofas from IKEA!
For a wagon, it also handles real well (but don't compare it to your 2-seater Porsche) and the brakes are excellent. After about 1k miles, the rears started squeaking loudly, and the dealer just replaced them. I didn't even have to ask, just told him they were noisy. Exhaust noise is awesome, and the downshifts (manual or when in S+ mode) sound fantastic with the rev matcher doing a great job. Love playing with this thing in M Mode.
Gas mileage is what you'd expect, not great. But it was pretty good on a long trip up I5 crusing on the highway at over 20mpg). Still, if you want fuel efficiency, buy something else. Unless driving slow and in C mode, it's closer to 10 mpg city than 15 mpg.
Interior of the car is what you'd expect, real nice all around. You can get nicer, but this is a wagon not an S class cruise ship. Nothing rattles, and while the suspension and tires make for a fairly noisy roll, the only real noise is the good kind -- from the exhaust. Can't say enough about how good it sounds, and it never fails to turn a head on start up.
Transmission is pretty dang good. Porsche PDK is much better (my friend and I switched cars and he has the brand new 911 and that transmission is the best thing ever), but shifts are quick. I have had some clunky shifts here and there, but probably my fault for having it in S+ when it shouldn't be.
Several "issues": the car is almost undriveable in C mode in traffic (the only place you'd ever use C mode for me). Downshifts happen too late and when in traffic or trying to drive smoothly, the car lugs...badly. Took it to the dealer and they said it was fine. It's not. I don't need it to stay on the pipe at 3000 rpm all the time, but when you're in 5th gear going 15 mph, it will leave the car at about 600 rpm. Push on the gas and you'll cringe at the noise. Not cool.
Also, the car has significant throttle lag. Seems to take forever to pull out of a driveway, or away from a stop sign. Don't notice it as much at higher speeds or when driving harder, but still too much for me. I read a review in one of the magazines that said the same thing and didn't want to believe it, but it's true.
All in all, this car is meant to be driven hard and aggressively, and when you do it is as good as it gets. But for those like me who have to be able to drive it on the street and in traffic too, MB can do better.
Oh, and did I mention that the car is fast?
i do drive it in c mode if im around town, and i just make sure i turn eco off, eco is so tempermental, wierd system
sometimes for long constant speed drives, there is no point of S+ on the freeway so i switch it to C, just for fuel economy, and even in C mode it moves when u need it too, S+ is really when the sound comes out tho,
havent dont much in M yet, or RS, need to do a race start soon
S+ does sound better and have much faster shifting response. Most of the time, I still leave it in S+ at highway speed just in case some suddenly arised situation requires me to do some emergency maneuver and to get out of the situation as quickly as possible. Moreover, I don't think having the car in S+ at contant highway crusing speed affect fuel economy since the gear stays at "7" anyway.




I always drive in S+ and have a generally aggressive foot which creates a behavior pattern with the throttle and the benz ECU. The ECU has memory in regards to one's driving habits/patterns. So if one drives like a slug the responses will be recorded accordingly and over a period of time it will mimmick such behavior.
Again I have much experience with lightning throttles (S85 M engines- E92 M3's) and turbos that spool fast and these small snails do move quickly if you drive them accordingly and create a pattern with the ECU as well. And once the pattern is set it drives even better in the city and with stop and go traffic.
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