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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 12:37 PM
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I was at the shop last week and there was an E63 non S there getting a dyno. It has a tune, downpipes and some cooling upgrade for the turbos.

Car made 656HP, which is significantly more than what I made with my tune

I guess it's time to start spending some more money, maybe I will end up needing turbo upgrades after all, they are just so expensive at this point.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 03:09 PM
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Doubt those numbers were at the wheels. If they were, then likely just a high reading dyno that may not be comparable to your results.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by xtyper
Doubt those numbers were at the wheels. If they were, then likely just a high reading dyno that may not be comparable to your results.
They were at the wheels, I wish I had the dyno graph. It was an awd mustang dyne.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jshinone
They were at the wheels, I wish I had the dyno graph. It was an awd mustang dyne.
That explains it. Mustang dynos are very manipulatable and sensitive to user inputs. Not suggesting anything was done to inflate the numbers intentionally, just that they are often not comparable to dynojets for that reason.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 04:41 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
if it has a tune i guess it doesnt matter if it was a non S

what company upgrades did it have etc, thanks
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by xtyper
Doubt those numbers were at the wheels. If they were, then likely just a high reading dyno that may not be comparable to your results.
I disagree, I've seen a few dynos where they can put that power to the wheels especially with down pipes in the trunk tank. Example renntech tune only
it made 626whp on a dyno jet with just a tune ! Real down pipes and a 5 gallon tank could easily get the numbers op stated. Some AMG's are just stronger than others even though it's the same car
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 07:38 PM
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 10:07 PM
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
if it has a tune i guess it doesnt matter if it was a non S

what company upgrades did it have etc, thanks
Yeah, I guess it doesn't matter once it was tuned. It had catted downpipes and a intercooler upgrade. I think they were from Rado.

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I disagree, I've seen a few dynos where they can put that power to the wheels especially with down pipes in the trunk tank. Example renntech tune only
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FatgpB0Vryc it made 626whp on a dyno jet with just a tune ! Real down pipes and a 5 gallon tank could easily get the numbers op stated. Some AMG's are just stronger than others even though it's the same car
That speedo is moving

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My car made 628 rwhp, 722 RWTQ tune only, by the best in the game. AMS performance
Good numbers, why don't you get there turbo upgrades?

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That speedo is flying!!!!!
Yeah it is
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dr. ss
My car made 628 rwhp, 722 RWTQ tune only, by the best in the game. AMS performance

and what was your base number when stock ?
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 06:06 AM
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DR.SS what dyno did you use making those numbers, cause I did 617rwhp on a mustang dyno and 802torq, just for comparison reasons

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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 06:06 AM
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IT LIKE ITS STOLEN!
Tune and dp, and 93 pump fuel

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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rory breaker
That speedo is flying!!!!!
Yeah on a dyno, the speedometer flies... it's not like that on the street.
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jshinone
Yeah, I guess it doesn't matter once it was tuned. It had catted downpipes and a intercooler upgrade. I think they were from Rado. That speedo is moving Good numbers, why don't you get there turbo upgrades? Yeah it is
I would get downpipes and turbo upgrades but I just blew my wad on a giant house impulsively.
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 09:06 PM
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and what was your base number when stock ?
I think 499 rwhp I wanna say....I'll email Eric gaudi and let him chime in here
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 09:07 PM
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DR.SS what dyno did you use making those numbers, cause I did 617rwhp on a mustang dyno and 802torq, just for comparison reasons Nick's iPhone 5s
I believe it was a AWD dynojet. AMS had both a mustang and a dynojet, I can't Rememer which 1 the E was tuned on, all of my cars have been tuned by them some mustang and some dynojet, I'll ask Eric to comment
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dr. ss
I would get downpipes and turbo upgrades but I just blew my wad on a giant house impulsively.

damn what kinda doc are u, Spine Surgeon?
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 10:15 PM
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Ok that explains it dyno jets read the highest of any dyno! Either way excellent numbers! For example if you made those numbers on mustang dyno then on a dynojet you would be over. 700

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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 10:42 PM
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damn what kinda doc are u, Spine Surgeon?
No no spine surgeon just a nephrologist
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 11:13 PM
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interesting science but too much number crunching for me....
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 10:01 AM
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Dynos are a tool and nothing more, comparing dyno to dyno even by the same MFG will cause you to lose sleep at night.

I would like to point out that a mustang dyno can be manipulated to read MUCH higher than a dynojet with very little input. I direct your attention to this:

That is why one really really should never make a generalized statement like "it would make XXX hp on a mustang" because that mustang they are referring to can change hp run to run just by not setting it up right.

Dr. SS's stock / Baseline numbers were 491whp and 493tq.

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Originally Posted by dr. ss
I think 499 rwhp I wanna say....I'll email Eric gaudi and let him chime in here
so you made about 130-140rwhp on a non-performance package ?!! Great

I do agree with AMS , that dynos are being maniplated for dyno queens, and thats why some high dyno numbers cars being smoked by less numbers cars but true gains.

Dear AMS Team,

When are you releasing more products !!!!!

its been a while now, no exhuast, or anything more !!!

I am sure you are preparing something amazing.
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so you made about 130-140rwhp on a non-performance package ?!! Great

I do agree with AMS , that dynos are being maniplated for dyno queens, and thats why some high dyno numbers cars being smoked by less numbers cars but true gains.

Dear AMS Team,

When are you releasing more products !!!!!

its been a while now, no exhuast, or anything more !!!

I am sure you are preparing something amazing.
Perf pack or non perf pack when tuned they are equal that's y I didn't get a pp car just LSD
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