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considering a 2010 e63, how are they holding up ?

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Old 02-16-2014 | 03:55 PM
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considering a 2010 e63, how are they holding up ?

love the looks of these cars and wanted to know guys experience with their cars so far. reliable, no major issues, no head bolt issues like the c63 guys and general opinions. i own a loaded 335i 4dr now and this would be my first experience with mb. thanks
Old 02-17-2014 | 10:20 AM
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Old 02-17-2014 | 02:42 PM
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I have a fully loaded 10 and freak in love it. 32K miles with zero issues. Will be adding an extended warranty in a couple of months for peace of mind. Although it has night vision, I rarely use it, but Distronic is a must for safety.

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Old 02-17-2014 | 06:13 PM
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
Zero issues here, too. Either '10 or '11 and you will get to enjoy possibly one of best large displacement high revving NA V8's that is, sadly, possibly the last one of its kind.
Old 02-17-2014 | 07:55 PM
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thanks guys for the input. Andy your car looks great. I thought I didnt like black but looking at your picture it looks fantastic. What is distronic ? Your car is a p30 car then I assume. What does that include ? thanks
Old 02-17-2014 | 10:50 PM
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I've got 23K miles on mine and it's holding up just fine. The head bolt issue isn't regulated to just C63's. My E63 falls into the range of affected engines so I'm keeping a steady eye on coolant and temp levels. The extended warranty helps alleviate some of the concern. MB will not do anything until a problem surfaces unfortunately. Before you ask, a forum search will net you all the information you need on the head bolt issue and the affected range of engines.

Having said that, you're coming from a 335i so the MB experience will be a better one ;-)
You will not get used to mashing the throttle and enjoying the gobs of torque. You will not get used to melting rear tires in record pace. You will not like the ICE interface compared to BMW's. You will not like the rear air bag suspension that will malfunction at some point. Gas mileage sucks (then again, you're not buying this car for it's gas mileage) and you will have to get use to the 7 speed MCT which is slightly worse than the Bimmer's 8 speed/ 7 speed DCT. Distronic is not necessary ( I purposely opted against it and the panoramic roof for that matter).

You will love the big displacement V8 however. An ecu tune, new headers and exhaust and you'll want to drive the car every chance you can get to listen to that throaty V8 growl. That and you'll become intoxicated by the sheer speed and efficacy of a heavy 4 door saloon. Just make sure to get a car with warranty and consider extending it.

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Old 02-18-2014 | 12:37 AM
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Great car, I love it..but make sure you have warranty...I just purchased mine and check engine light came on...had it in one shop for a week they couldn't figure out what it was ended up replacing 10+ different things..took it to another shop here in the area..they replaced the Intake Manifold and everything is fine now..I'm glad to have the warranty or I would of paid close to 5k for everything...other then that...this is the best car ever...no other N/A car will give you this experience
Old 02-18-2014 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by sabredog
thanks guys for the input. Andy your car looks great. I thought I didnt like black but looking at your picture it looks fantastic. What is distronic ? Your car is a p30 car then I assume. What does that include ? thanks
Thanks Sabre. I guess I lied about having every option, I don't have the AMG performance Package, which is ceramic disks, LSD, steering wheel, top speed bumped up a bit and one other thing, can't remember. I do have 19 in wheels. Distronic is radar assisted cruise control. Also will help you not rear end someone if needed by applying up to 100% of your brakes if it thinks your going to hit the car in front of you.

Black just looks good. It does require a garage and weekly baths. Our AMG's are not our DDs. Andy
Old 02-18-2014 | 01:47 PM
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thanks guys for the replies. 727, what code was it that your car had ? glad to hear that its fixed. sikm3, thanks for the headbolt info. if you find a certified car, that gives you 1 extra year of warranty, is this correct ? one more question, what is your average milage city and highway. I see specs state 13 city and 20 highway. its probably hard to not want to hear this engine though.thanks ,john
Old 02-18-2014 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sabredog
sikm3, thanks for the headbolt info. if you find a certified car, that gives you 1 extra year of warranty, is this correct ? one more question, what is your average milage city and highway. I see specs state 13 city and 20 highway. its probably hard to not want to hear this engine though.thanks ,john
Yes, CPO gives an additional year of warranty. However I would recommend finding a car with a balance of the new car warranty which then allows you to buy a MB extended warranty. You cannot buy MB extended warranty if the new car warranty has expired. I'm sure there are just as good 3rd party aftermarket warranty programs that I don't know about.

I may get 18 mpg at best on highway if I'm taking it easy. I honestly don't pay much attention to my mpg's so I'm probably not the best person to answer. It's not my DD and I knew going in the gas mileage was going to correlate directly with my lead foot and the 6.2 liters in tandem
Old 02-18-2014 | 06:21 PM
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
If you cruise at a constant speed of around 75-85mph on the highway, you can easily get close to 22mpg.
Old 02-19-2014 | 08:56 AM
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I purchased my 2010 in June of last year with 13k miles on it. I now have 25k on the odometer. Since then I have had the rearview mirror replaced (home link malfunctioned) and a headlight all under warranty. Caution, not all E63 AMG's can get the MB extended warranty. Any E63 AMG that was traded in at a franchised MB dealership and not CPO'd can not get the extended warranty. This was told to me by Erin whom I bought my extended warranty from. I think the warranty is worth the peace of mind, many things on the AMG cost a lot to fix. Mine is a daily driver and gas mileage sucks but is to be expected as I attach 20 pounds of lead to my right foot before getting in. Coming from a NA V10 M5, getting use to the E63 was quite an adjustment. While the torque on the E63 is much better than the M5 I miss the sound of the V10. I don't know how many times the rev limiter kicked in as I tried to shift at 7,200 RPM as I did with the M5. The SMG was a great tranny as long as it didn't malfunction. The first time I used the Launch control I got off the throttle after the 1-2 shift as I thought I had dropped my rear end in the middle of the road it was that brutal. The gear selection in manual mode was much better in the M5 as you never had to keep pulling on the paddle to get to the gear you wanted. That being said the MB is much more refined and looks a lot better than the M5. If you could get an E63 with the BMW V10 and a reliable SMG I think it would be the ultimate super sedan. I'm overall pleased with my purchase of the E63.
Old 02-19-2014 | 04:25 PM
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thanks LJ, I would be using my car as a daily driver. I have a short commute to work therefore i'll be able to keep the miles down. I am a Honda tech by trade for the last 29 years, so I do have a ton of experience with cars,but every model has its own issues and required special tools ,god knows Honda has enough. The extended warranty would probably be worth it for the parts alone. Glad to hear that yours has been pretty much trouble free. Enjoy your car and thanks again for your opinions.
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My 2010 has been bulletproof-Had it now for over three years with no issues. Still very, very fast and surprisingly good MPG on the highway 21-22 MPG
Old 02-28-2014 | 01:44 PM
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I'm in the same boat, wanting a 2010. Most of the CPO's are just a bit more than I want to spend. I traded out of my '04 E500 for an '09 Jag XF S/C and so far that's been a mistake. 1 month into it, I noticed a few oil spots on the driveway. I take it in and it needs a new diff along with tranny lines, etc. ~$10K worth of repairs. I may be coming back to Benz if this doesn't get straightened out.
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I am curious, does anyone in this forum has a W210 E55 before or having both W210 and W212 cars at the moment? I am thinking of getting a 2010 E63 as I like the look of the car....tired of the round headlights. I have a 02 E55 that I love. This car is the best MB I owned so far, great with performance and reliability. I'll never go back to a diesel, lol.
Anyway, how does this NA engine compare to the NA E55 engine? Also, is the car just as reliable as the older AMGs?

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Old 03-04-2014 | 12:51 PM
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good thread! i plan on picking one up as my new DD, now i know extended warranty is a must.
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I am looking to purchase a 2010 or 11 E63 or C63, I want to know about maintenance and cost of ownership on these cars. I know they are expensive and costly to maintain. I understand that I NEED to get an extended warranty on this car. I am wondering though if the people that said they have not had any problems really drive their cars. Do you drive them like they are supposed to be driven? Do you use it aggressively or do you just use it to go from point A to point B. I understand that most people on this board are enthusiasts but come on... do you really beat on your car?? How do they hold up?? I have some what of an advantage as far as parts go as I can get everything for cost and labor is very cheap for me. I am very close to pulling the trigger on one of these but I am still a little timid. I guess if I am this timid I should look at something else.... I am not sure. So go ahead and either rip me apart for asking this and tell me "if you cant afford to maintain it then you shouldnt buy it" or give me a little piece of mind so I can feel ok buying this thing. I appreciate anyones thoughts.
Old 03-05-2014 | 03:23 PM
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I'm not sure if I have beaten on my car hard enough, but I try to be as lead-footed as I possibly can whenever I have a chance to safely do so. It seems these types of cars, ie, AMG, M's, are engineered pretty well to be able to take more abuse than regular non-AMG's and non-M's. As long as you have a warranty, then there is nothing for you to worry about. Other than the scheduled maintenances, I haven't had the need to have anything fixed.
Old 03-05-2014 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by otakki
I'm not sure if I have beaten on my car hard enough, but I try to be as lead-footed as I possibly can whenever I have a chance to safely do so. It seems these types of cars, ie, AMG, M's, are engineered pretty well to be able to take more abuse than regular non-AMG's and non-M's. As long as you have a warranty, then there is nothing for you to worry about. Other than the scheduled maintenances, I haven't had the need to have anything fixed.
have you ever tracked the car? or done an auto cross? I appreciate your response though. thank you for sharing
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have you ever tracked the car? or done an auto cross?
In a 4300lb executive sedan? Wouldn't be my first choice of car to autocross but I'm sure there are folks here who may have done so.

Lots of folks on the 1/4 mile tho...
Old 03-05-2014 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Drunknpanda
I am looking to purchase a 2010 or 11 E63 or C63, I want to know about maintenance and cost of ownership on these cars. I know they are expensive and costly to maintain. I understand that I NEED to get an extended warranty on this car. I am wondering though if the people that said they have not had any problems really drive their cars. Do you drive them like they are supposed to be driven? Do you use it aggressively or do you just use it to go from point A to point B. I understand that most people on this board are enthusiasts but come on... do you really beat on your car?? How do they hold up?? I have some what of an advantage as far as parts go as I can get everything for cost and labor is very cheap for me. I am very close to pulling the trigger on one of these but I am still a little timid. I guess if I am this timid I should look at something else.... I am not sure. So go ahead and either rip me apart for asking this and tell me "if you cant afford to maintain it then you shouldnt buy it" or give me a little piece of mind so I can feel ok buying this thing. I appreciate anyones thoughts.
I have both. It depends on what you want. The E is a very smooth riding comfortable rocket. The C is a very tight rocket.

Andy
Old 03-06-2014 | 06:26 AM
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I have put 10k miles on my car since I bought it including several long trips and my average fuel consumption is 11.9 (a little better than the 9 MPG that I got with my M5) so yeah I beat the hell out of my cars, and have since I have had a DL. I have never tracked it, but that is because where I live there are no place to do so. The original owner put 13K miles on it and bought 2 sets of rear tires and one set of front tires so I think he drove it pretty hard to. Like stated it is good to have a warranty on it while you own it, to cover any major break downs, just for the peace of mind. You can check the prices for the routine maintenance such as your A and B service, brakes and such and if that don't scare you then go ahead and pull the trigger. There is nothing like trouncing a Vette with a trunk full of luggage and four people in the car.
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I have both. It depends on what you want. The E is a very smooth riding comfortable rocket. The C is a very tight rocket.

Andy
I think I would enjoy the C a little more everyday. I live outside of atlanta and there are some great roads hidden outside the city. I love the way the E looks but I feel it wouldn't be stiff enough for me. (I am a past m3, m5 owner) I like the "sport" ride.
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Originally Posted by sikm3
In a 4300lb executive sedan? Wouldn't be my first choice of car to autocross but I'm sure there are folks here who may have done so.

Lots of folks on the 1/4 mile tho...
agreed, i was referring to the C in that case... just concerned with the power plant


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