Jeffer09

I have a 2011 E63 and when I am in either "C", "S" and "S+" (not M), and decide to use the paddle shifters there seems to be a lag when shifting through gears. I read many reviews that this car ****s in 100 milliseconds or something super quick. I am not impressed with the shifting lag on this car an expected more.

I plan to ask the MB service tech at my dealer if there is something they can refresh or look at. Is anyone else experiencing this?

Thank you-

Vic55

This is not unique to you--- all my MCT's shifted slow with the paddles (even my Black Series). The best route is Drive mode in S+. I don't know what MBZ did with their tcu and the shift speeds on the paddles but its not good at all. It seems to be an issue with the input from when the driver hits the paddle to when that input is communicated to the tranny so Ill put it on the TCU since normall shifts are faster outside of paddle shifting.


But you will see that in D mode S+ the shifts are as advertised; fast but not PDK/DCT fast.

mellowyellow

Wasn't the advertised shifting time of 100msec in Manual? Mine is noticeably quicker in M than S+.

90% of my driving is in S+, M for the remaining 10%. Mainly because most of the time I am bumper-to-bumper traffic, otherwise the M number would be much higher.

Vic55

I don't know what mode they made that claim in as there has been many reviews of the MCT. I just have always felt that M mode is sluggish in comparison to S+ (5 MCT's). I think there is another thread about the slow a$$ M mode here.

vdubpower

in bumper to bumper leave it in C, and turn eco off

whats the point of s or s plus in traffic.......

Vic55

To the contrary--- s+ is the best when making a quick move lane to lane in traffic. C mode is a snail and pathetic. I drive in the same mode everytime:

S+
Shocks Sport
ESP Sport On (yellow sport light)

ace10

To the contrary... who wants a jarring ride and a partially disabled traction control in traffic?

S
Comfort
ESP on

RobbieRob

I always drive in S+, esp in sport, and shocks all lit up, traffic or no traffic. The only time I use those useless paddles is to downshift going into corners or in back road twisties. I tried every different set up launching the car and found that the best way(fastest) was set up like I mentioned above(bring the r's up a little and mash it). Manual mode blows, you shift and the thing bounces off the limiter because it takes so long for the computer to comprehend what you just told it to do,, SHIFT you pr**k..lol. As for the suspension, I love to feel the road and feedback, so I like it as stiff as possible. Everyone is different, but in traffic with an awd car, I don't think it matters if the traction control is off(driving slow right?).

Vic55

I have no issues- control of the throttle obviously plays a role.

Vic55

Agree 100%--- my roads are good enough for sport shock setting but others may have more pot holes, bumps etc. Id rather have the feedback of the chassis and road like you.

ace10

Road feedback? In traffic? LOL

Must be a lot of up-and-coming junior F1 drivers round here.

By definition (and practicality) driving in traffic is a 4-5/10ths affair, at the most... except for a$$hats who weave and tailgate and generally make it miserable for the rest of us trying to get to our destination in one piece.

Vic55

Actually my comment about feedback with the road was quoting Robbies post... Driving in traffic for me is probably a 2/10ths affair living in Cali. But I do have ample opportunities with the Mexican Toll Roads to enjoy the chassis and suspension feedback of my rides.

I sure hate those *** hats too---

RobbieRob

Yeah, a**hats are not cool. I too only see traffic once a month or so, I live in a hilly area of North Eastern PA., so I enjoy ripping the back roads and twisties. I never change my settings back and forth because there is no need to for me. Like I said, everyone is different, and these are the settings that I like. In one of your previous comments, you were concerned about having the traction control on in traffic, Why?

PeterUbers

What's the major diff between s and s+

ace10

Weather. Sudden change is road quality. Debris. A$$hats. Weather. A$$hats. You name it. No reason not to use the nanny systems in traffic.

ESP isn't just "traction control."

http://www.daimler.com/dccom/0-5-121...0-0-0-0-0.html


When I hear or read people say "traffic," I think the following: actual congestion, reduced distance between vehicles in all directions, more distracted drivers, sudden changes in pace due to slow ups, etc... Heavy, mind-numbing, soul-crushing traffic.

Jeffer09

I was the original poster and appreciate all of the insight thus far. I spoke to one of the AMG mechanics at my local dealer and he told me in any of the 3 auto modes (S, S+ or C) to run the RPMs way up before paddle shifting and it will shift much faster (simulating track driving). It seems to paddle shift much quicker at higher RPMs. Try it and let me know.

LJMartin

I find that S+ gives the quickest shifts especially on downshifting. It feels like it takes to long as it's like you hit the paddle and the computer has to decide if it is safe before sending the command to the tranny where as in S+ it seems to know exactly what gear it has to be in and gets there. In hard acceleration S+ mode knows exactly when to shift for best acceleration. While in manual mode you have to watch the tach (I hate where they placed the tach) and time the shift at what RPM you think is the best and hope the paddle works on the first pull. That has me hitting the rev limiter and that is really embarrassing. It is nice that MB gave us a nice selection of setting to fit everyone's different preferences.

mellowyellow

1) Starting out in 2nd gear, are you kidding me? Just insane for any AMG. Also, ever try to go up a small hill in 2nd?
2) This is a HIGH PERFORMANCE car, if you wanted a comfy ride and nice smooth shifting, get a Camry with that freakin' sweet aerokit.
3) As Vic mentioned, when you do get the chance, do you really want to be in comfort mode?
4) See #s 1-3

The only time I see C of value is on the highway for a long trip, or when my wife drives the car.

vdubpower

Did u read anything

In bumper to bumper traffic. I use c mode. Because there is NO freaking reason to keep dropping to first when u are going 7 mph


U can't go up a hill in c mode in your car. Head to the service bay. There's something wrong. U guys act like the car is a priius in c. Its still very powerful and very fast. Obviously not as fast as the other modes.

The best all around mode is s for street to freeway driving

And obviously s + for more spirited driving.

vdubpower

Member xypter told me the quickest shift method is to put car in s+ and then hold left paddle down to first. This way the car will use all of the rpm range and shift on its own. Quicker and at the right rpm. We used this method at the half mile shootouts

Thericker

The OP & Vic etc were primarily discussing the ULTIMATE settings for quickest/fastest shifts etc. THEY agreed w/you congested stop n' go traffic isn't the best place to test any of the above, but if you were in MILD traffic & say some ^^a$$hat^^ cruising in C mode, fiddling w/Highest Softest suspension modes to ease his raw backside rolleyes:suddenly cuts us off?

Yeah... S+/ESP off/Shocks sport, is what you need NOT 2nd gear granny mode etc.. Lastly merely turning ESP off w/console button doesn't shut off all these nannies lol. (only DYNO mode does this) ESP nannies are still there, it just loosens the strict reins on throttle output etc etc but will quickly reel you in if it senses too much wheel slip or eminent doom etc etc..

ace10

LOL

Definitely need ESP off and Shock in Sport to drive in traffic. Riiiight.

Keep looking for those F1 talent scouts hiding in the bushes. They're there. For sure.

Thericker

Still lost.. Appears your primary concern is "Scouting the bushes" @ rest spots etc

ace10

I'm not the one trying suggest that driving in traffic is anything other than a chore.

Enjoy that pointless bouncy ride. Do you wear driving gloves on your daily commute too, by any chance? :rotfl:

PeterUbers

Comfort mode all the way for daily drive....

I know the 577 horses are there, and I know how to squeeze the most out of them (S+, esp off)...

who wants that bouncy hesitation thing in s or s+ all the time in bumper to bumper traffic... ???? and the geniuses at benz/amg made it a dial feature to shift into s or s+ on the fly...

Comfort mode can go up a hill.... not sure what that member was referring to .. I used to start in 2nd all the time in my E550... it was more powerful in 2nd than most cars on the road are in first...