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After owning for 4 years without any problems of my E63 W212 E63 AMG 2009 I decided to renew a design and technical items of my car up to face-lifted model Е63 2013.
Taking into consideration that selling my car and buying a new car will cost 100 000 USD of additional expenses I think that my idea looks reasonable and economically efficient.Who has another opinion don't judge me for that.
What I want to change:
- Hood, Front and rear bumpers, headlights, sideskirts.
- change Command Head Unit (HU) from NTG4.0 to NTG4.7 (NTG4.5 third generation - where we will have full IPhone integration)
- changing instrumental cluster (panel);
AMG Selector Lever Handle I have already updated.
What I want to get at the end (on photos you can see restyle made by SGA Exclusive:
Hello Andrey, does you car come with Bi-Xenon Headlights? Did you change the front SAM? Does old headlight connectors fir the facelift headlight connectors?
We are planning on a facelift for a 2012 E63AMG Biturbo so we want to get all the pars before we start.
At the moment we have: Facelift BiXenon Headlights, Front Bumper Kit, Hood, fenders remain the same. facelift Tail Lights, rear bumper kit, facelift diffusor and tail pipes.
I wonder if rear SAM has to be changed together for the front SAM? Do old connectors fit the new headlights and tail lights? Any further recommendations?
I think the only flaw in doing something like this is in the end you've spent all this money but the car will only be worth what a 2009 is bringing. I didn't do the math so I may be all wet.
Hello Andrey, does you car come with Bi-Xenon Headlights? Did you change the front SAM? Does old headlight connectors fir the facelift headlight connectors?
We are planning on a facelift for a 2012 E63AMG Biturbo so we want to get all the pars before we start.
At the moment we have: Facelift BiXenon Headlights, Front Bumper Kit, Hood, fenders remain the same. facelift Tail Lights, rear bumper kit, facelift diffusor and tail pipes.
I wonder if rear SAM has to be changed together for the front SAM? Do old connectors fit the new headlights and tail lights? Any further recommendations?
My car was bi-xenon. There are two ways of doing conversion with changing SAM and without changing depends on who will do electrical part of the works - this is the most important and most complicated part of conversion. Connectors are different.
I have also ordered all needed parts. Headlight has already delivered. Waiting for the rest.
I think the only flaw in doing something like this is in the end you've spent all this money but the car will only be worth what a 2009 is bringing. I didn't do the math so I may be all wet.
I realize now that the act of this project in and if itself is gratifying to the op and to him it's not about waste in value or dollars spent on parts....he just really seems to like the facelift
Hello Andrey, does you car come with Bi-Xenon Headlights? Did you change the front SAM? Does old headlight connectors fir the facelift headlight connectors?
We are planning on a facelift for a 2012 E63AMG Biturbo so we want to get all the pars before we start.
At the moment we have: Facelift BiXenon Headlights, Front Bumper Kit, Hood, fenders remain the same. facelift Tail Lights, rear bumper kit, facelift diffusor and tail pipes.
I wonder if rear SAM has to be changed together for the front SAM? Do old connectors fit the new headlights and tail lights? Any further recommendations?
They still make xenon headlights for the facelift? I thought they're all LED. Vehicles without the lighting pack still have LED headlights but lighting pack will get you full LED headlights.
I think the only flaw in doing something like this is in the end you've spent all this money but the car will only be worth what a 2009 is bringing. I didn't do the math so I may be all wet.
Buying E63 AMG and spending money for tunning is itself - investment with falling capitalization. But anyway people are buying such car because of emotions it gives to the buyer, and not for the though of how much money owner will return when selling. When thinking like You we need all move to VW or Toyota diesel forum.
Buying E63 AMG and spending money for tunning is itself - investment with falling capitalization. But anyway people are buying such car because of emotions it gives to the buyer, and not for the though of how much money owner will return when selling. When thinking like You we need all move to VW or Toyota diesel forum.
My point is if you are trying to make a 2009 look like you spent the money to buy a 2014 when you didn't then the project is flawed as it will cost you more in the long run to be a poser.
On the other hand if you really like the NA motor then this is a valid project.
I've spent tons of money modifying cars over the years, even put modern running gear in a 69 Vette. But I've never tried making people think I had something I don't.
I am converting my 2012 W212 to a facelift headlight. Wiring is good, SD has realize the intelligent headlight. But I need I can't find a loaner car to get to online code my SAM Unit. I can't use my car to code the SAM Unit. SD will read my VIN/Chassis# and therefore code the old headlight. Any advice or workshop to do this job ? I can send this SAM Unit and get it code.
I am converting my 2012 W212 to a facelift headlight. Wiring is good, SD has realize the intelligent headlight. But I need I can't find a loaner car to get to online code my SAM Unit. I can't use my car to code the SAM Unit. SD will read my VIN/Chassis# and therefore code the old headlight. Any advice or workshop to do this job ? I can send this SAM Unit and get it code.
You need 2013 w212 car to code your SAM. You have to program SAM on the car 2013MY after that put this SAM on your car. Try to find a car wich has the same options connected with headlights that your car have, it will be easier to code.
Last edited by Andrew-UKR; 09-05-2014 at 04:19 PM.
Thanks Andrew, but since this facelift has been around for few months in my country there are car coming back to workshop to do heavy service. I have a hard time getting a new facelift W212 car. I hear someone use teamviewer and do this coding remotely. Is this true ?
Originally Posted by Andrew-UKR
You need 2013 w212 car to code your SAM. You have to program SAM on the car 2013MY after that put this SAM on your car. Try to find a car wich has the same options connected with headlights that your car have, it will be easier to code.
But having Air-Con problem, mine is using solenoid variable. and the car I code with facelift have magnet clutch, any advice
Originally Posted by Andrew-UKR
You need 2013 w212 car to code your SAM. You have to program SAM on the car 2013MY after that put this SAM on your car. Try to find a car wich has the same options connected with headlights that your car have, it will be easier to code.
Found several free minutes and want to finalize this thread by finishing my story about my project on E63 conversion
I have ordered and received all details (hood, bumper and side skirts are not shown)
Some of the parts did not fit my model and was not needed for my conversion
here is the picture of not needed parts for my conversion
Here we start to diassemble my car
Some of problems seems to appear but we easily solved them
Here we start to assemble
Than we started to fit the new bumper
after finishing and checking that everything fits perfect we started painting works
then assembling of the new bumper
And the most complicated part of the conversion electric wiring and programming
Don't be afraid by the huge quantities of wires they are from another car. You need to add only 2 wires for each headlight: one thick for "+" and one thin wire for management signals and then repin the connectors to have correct electric and headlight management connection.
Reprogramming was made by the guys from the CARSYSTEM using modul: http://carsystems.com.ua/mb-products...roller-w212-en
They also reprogram my front SAM with new software from 2013 model, so I did not buy new SAM.
Last edited by Andrew-UKR; 01-23-2015 at 12:10 AM.
P.S. Special thanks to Dmitriy, Oleg and Constantin from MERCTEIL (http://www.mercteil.com) for supplying with original Mercedes-Benz parts for conversion. It was good to work with them.
Last edited by Andrew-UKR; 01-23-2015 at 12:03 AM.
On the not needed parts, I have to add some people may not have the E63 prefacelift (E300 or 500 instead). Those parts may be needed for those, who think about the conversion.
The electrical module for the headlights is not plug&play as some may think. There is a slightly deeper understanding needed as well as proper softwaretools to make it work.
08-02-2014, 12:30 AM
