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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 11:27 PM
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MB voided warranty on my SL65 that was Renntech tuned at my MB dealer.
They voided it based on the statement from a big mouth (new guy at dealership) service advisor.
The idiot bragged about my power gains to a visiting MB rep.....
So did you take Benz to court over this... What was your recourse
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 11:54 PM
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Yes, apparently they can.

That process takes months and months and an investment of legal fees you may not get compensated for. I've been through a buyback twice and it took 8 months and was not fun. I don't have time to take someone to court on an issue like this ... Best part I'll never have to as I'll never tune my car

It's always interesting to see peoples' replies on this topic.
They can "try" to void your warranty but you will win in court. It would be very hard to prove the tune did the damages.

Renntech is a very reputable company with lots of contacts and amazing customer service. I'm sure they would handle any issues if they were actually caused by the tune.
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Old Oct 3, 2014 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BlownV8
They can "try" to void your warranty but you will win in court. It would be very hard to prove the tune did the damages. .
How much do you think MB spends, per year, on retaining lawyers who specialize in this?

Do you honestly think any consumer can compete against those Sharks?

You can be right all day long, proving it in court against opponents that can out resource you 1000 to 1 is a much different story.

Just face facts guys...you gotta pay to play. That takes big stones on a $120k+ car.
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Old Oct 3, 2014 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Worth the wait
How much do you think MB spends, per year, on retaining lawyers who specialize in this?

Do you honestly think any consumer can compete against those Sharks?

You can be right all day long, proving it in court against opponents that can out resource you 1000 to 1 is a much different story.

Just face facts guys...you gotta pay to play. That takes big stones on a $120k+ car.
Lol, agreed... I'll take advice from someone that went to court on this in real life and re negotiated their warranty coverage

No disrespect to the lawyer who is posting that they can't void my warranty
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Old Oct 3, 2014 | 02:36 PM
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I get a real chuckle out of people that tune their car and then want to take all sorts of steps, like buying a second ECU, to deceive MB or their dealer that they are tuned. If you want to tune your car, you should not expect MB (which ultimately means us since we pay the costs thereof through buying MB cars) to pick up the tab when your engine or driveline breaks.
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Old Oct 4, 2014 | 12:35 AM
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AHI, Any problems with warrantee service at the dealer after the Eurocharged tune, I wonder if they notice it has a tune and can it mess with the warrantee?
I recently had some issues, and the guys at Eurocharged flashed back to stock for me. I drove it stock for a week until I took it to the dealer.

My Lambo is also tuned and serviced by Eurocharged.
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Old Oct 4, 2014 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Worth the wait
How much do you think MB spends, per year, on retaining lawyers who specialize in this?

Do you honestly think any consumer can compete against those Sharks?

You can be right all day long, proving it in court against opponents that can out resource you 1000 to 1 is a much different story.

Just face facts guys...you gotta pay to play. That takes big stones on a $120k+ car.
Believe me, MB does not want to go to court for something like this. The mere threat of a lawsuit, or even just a letter from your lawyer, and they will cave. I've been through this scenario with Audi once, and I have buddy that went through it with Mercedes.
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Old Oct 5, 2014 | 12:37 AM
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So when you drove it stock again could you really tell that much of a difference comparing to how it ran with the tune and without it? To me the car feels pretty good stock. Were your shifts firmer after the tune?
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I recently had some issues, and the guys at Eurocharged flashed back to stock for me. I drove it stock for a week until I took it to the dealer.

My Lambo is also tuned and serviced by Eurocharged.
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Old Oct 5, 2014 | 07:18 PM
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How much does a spare ECU cost to toss in if there are problems?
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Old Oct 5, 2014 | 07:27 PM
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I have a Renntech tune and it's been faultless..also added plugs from them and filters..ML63 runs strong.
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Old Oct 5, 2014 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AHI
I recently had some issues, and the guys at Eurocharged flashed back to stock for me. I drove it stock for a week until I took it to the dealer.

My Lambo is also tuned and serviced by Eurocharged.
Lambo apparently you never heard of Underground racing in Charlotte,N.C. good luck.
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Old Oct 6, 2014 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Nanook
I have a Renntech tune and it's been faultless..also added plugs from them and filters..ML63 runs strong.




Are you running the intermediate tune and how many months/miles since tune?
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Old Oct 6, 2014 | 12:37 AM
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There's only one tune available afaik..at least for this application..installed it a year ago next week..never a CEL..misfire..nothing..as I say faultless
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Old Oct 6, 2014 | 12:42 AM
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Up to you to decide if these numbers are good or not..this run at 2250 ft asl..temp below zero..with 19" winter tires




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Old Oct 6, 2014 | 11:04 AM
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Lambo apparently you never heard of Underground racing in Charlotte,N.C. good luck.
.. we actually tune for UGR....

http://www.eurocharged.com/component...43-underground



Originally Posted by AHI
I recently had some issues, and the guys at Eurocharged flashed back to stock for me. I drove it stock for a week until I took it to the dealer.

My Lambo is also tuned and serviced by Eurocharged.
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Old Oct 6, 2014 | 11:19 AM
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I love reading these threads.

People claiming that a dealer has the ability to honor a Mercedes warranty for drivetrain issues on an aftermarket tuned car. lol

Good luck with that. Really.


I buy a good number of Mercs and I have ZERO interest in funding your decision to modify your car. If you want to tune, fix the stuff that breaks on your own dime. Not mine. Bogus warranty expenses go right back into the hopper and come out the other end as increased MSRP and higher ELW costs.

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Old Oct 6, 2014 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ace10
I love reading these threads.

People claiming that a dealer has the ability to honor a Mercedes warranty for drivetrain issues on an aftermarket tuned car. lol

Good luck with that. Really.


I buy a good number of Mercs and I have ZERO interest in funding your decision to modify your car. If you want to tune, fix the stuff that breaks on your own dime. Not mine. Bogus warranty expenses go right back into the hopper and come out the other end as increased MSRP and higher ELW costs.
+1. Pay to play with your own cash!
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Old Oct 6, 2014 | 01:42 PM
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Are these numbers from a renntech tuned ML 63?

Originally Posted by Nanook
Up to you to decide if these numbers are good or not..this run at 2250 ft asl..temp below zero..with 19" winter tires




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Old Oct 6, 2014 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by loungn14
We have one of the best motor protection warranties in the business in which we cover the engine up to $50,000!

http://www.eurocharged.com/about/warranty


We don't charge for retunes (only pay shipping) so when you add your downpipes etc you are covered!

Yes we are not pushing as hard on the tune and play it a little safer (personal choice), but also are not experiencing issues that others have seen to be having with plugs etc.


For those that believe that renntech does not void your warranty, I would suggest looking at this post from the private lounge...

http://www.mercedes-amg.com/privatel...63-ECU-upgrade


rest assured all tuners mentioned here are top notch and can easily transform your car into a monster!!!
It looks like you either take the risk yourself with Renntech, Alpha, etc or similar you try (excellently, I might add) to get you every last lb-ft for ~$3500

or

If you aren't personally prepared to fix drivetrain issues on your own dime, then Eurocharged offers the unusual motor protection warranty and tune for $1500. They just don't go for every last lb-ft.

Its worth mentioning that 700hp is going to accelerate wear through-out the engine in ways that no warranty or insurance will pay for. The MCT-7 is well known to wear far more quickly in cases where it is regularly launching with 800lb/ft (or making WOT pulls). No one would ever rebuild the MCT-7 on warranty. Period.

You gotta pay to play.
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Old Oct 6, 2014 | 02:06 PM
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Where are you getting that transmission wear claim info from?
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Old Oct 6, 2014 | 05:48 PM
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I have had a long phone conversation with the AMS folks in which they spoke about it. When I later heard from Renntech that they were installing stronger parts in a customer's car, I called them as well and asked them about it. Apparently they are working hard to meet a growing demand for stronger MCT-7 parts and parts that will wear less under extreme load.
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Old Oct 6, 2014 | 05:53 PM
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Are these numbers from a renntech tuned ML 63?
Yes.....
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Old Oct 6, 2014 | 09:03 PM
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Yes.....
Wow! Props.

Ordered Renntech full tune and sport mufflers for my incoming E63 S. Renntech Sport mufflers are cheaper and offer more power gains than the downpipes on the 2014-15 E63 And E63 S. Total claimed power is 716 bhp and 859 lbs-ft of torque
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Old Oct 6, 2014 | 09:09 PM
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Wow! Props.

Ordered Renntech full tune and sport mufflers for my incoming E63 S. Renntech Sport mufflers are cheaper and offer more power gains than the downpipes on the 2014-15 E63 And E63 S. Total claimed power is 716 bhp and 859 lbs-ft of torque
Wow..that should put a smile on yer face
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Wow..that should put a smile on yer face
Indeed. 👍👍👍
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