Tuning: What's the worst case scenario?
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2016 E63 AMG S SEDAN, 2010 E550 SEDAN
LOOL you're troll city over here...
and anyway not quite sure if i agree with the analogy. you're not changing the appearance or anything with a tune, just the performance. instead of getting new "assets" it's more like she started doing a bunch of kegels, created a lumosity account, and took up learning a second language haha
and anyway not quite sure if i agree with the analogy. you're not changing the appearance or anything with a tune, just the performance. instead of getting new "assets" it's more like she started doing a bunch of kegels, created a lumosity account, and took up learning a second language haha
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I've been off this forum for a long time so I'm not as caught up on all of the durability stories with the M157 engine -- but it seems like they are pretty bulletproof until you push them to insane power levels.
I've considered getting the RennTech tune (intermediate tune) to wake up my '12 Wagon. It doesn't have the PP factory tune, so it's 518HP. Came over from a CTS-V and this car is silly fast but doesn't pull like my V did...so it's tempting.
I'm at 40k miles right now. Extended warranty. Tough decisions.
Any stories of M157s with warranty turbo replacements/transmission issues? That's what I'm most concerned with. I drive my cars very lightly but when I get on it, I want it to be a monster.
I've considered getting the RennTech tune (intermediate tune) to wake up my '12 Wagon. It doesn't have the PP factory tune, so it's 518HP. Came over from a CTS-V and this car is silly fast but doesn't pull like my V did...so it's tempting.
I'm at 40k miles right now. Extended warranty. Tough decisions.
Any stories of M157s with warranty turbo replacements/transmission issues? That's what I'm most concerned with. I drive my cars very lightly but when I get on it, I want it to be a monster.
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Porsche 991 GT3, 2012 cls63 Kleemann K3
huh? i modded mine. dealer doesnt care. i even tell them specifically that my car is tuned when i take it in for warranty service. so they dont delete the tune.
i had a previous tune(different from my present one) and was having check engine lights all the time. got tired of it. the dealer flashed it back to stock for me free of charge..
besides it will only void specifically the engine warranty. and even then probably only if its likely caused by the tune. anything else that goes wrong with the car thats normally covered under warranty will still be covered.
and the engine is probably the last thing to break on these cars.
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Porsche 991 GT3, 2012 cls63 Kleemann K3
i actually heard more negative stuff about weistec than kleemann,(havent heard any negatives). and some weistec was local as well.
all i can say i have the kleemann k3 package on my cls and its the best mod i ever did. the quality of the pipes is very high, they manufacture themselves.
for the kleemann tune ive had no issues, and this is my second tune on this car... first one i deleted cause it gave me cels and didnt produce any results...
i think kleemann may be more known/used in europe, but it seems you dont hear about many people in north america that use them. but i definitely am happy.
btw if you do tune i would do turbopipes and catless downpipes as well at the same time. the giggle factor from the added sound alone from the catless pipes is worth as much if not more than the extra power. tune - you dont get any extra sound... just power and only when you hammer on it... with the downpipes, you get to hear that sweet noise all the time!
my enjoyment level of the car has easily tripled.. and its more because of the sound than the power.
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2014 E550 4MATIC TUNED - Turbo Upgraded Stage 3
huh? i modded mine. dealer doesnt care. i even tell them specifically that my car is tuned when i take it in for warranty service. so they dont delete the tune.
i had a previous tune(different from my present one) and was having check engine lights all the time. got tired of it. the dealer flashed it back to stock for me free of charge..
besides it will only void specifically the engine warranty. and even then probably only if its likely caused by the tune. anything else that goes wrong with the car thats normally covered under warranty will still be covered.
and the engine is probably the last thing to break on these cars.
i had a previous tune(different from my present one) and was having check engine lights all the time. got tired of it. the dealer flashed it back to stock for me free of charge..
besides it will only void specifically the engine warranty. and even then probably only if its likely caused by the tune. anything else that goes wrong with the car thats normally covered under warranty will still be covered.
and the engine is probably the last thing to break on these cars.
I was told by Mercedes Service Dept,
If there is a tune on your ecu, and the problem is caused by the tune.
They will NOT warranty your engine. (I know engine most likely will be the last thing to break, but sh*t happens.)
Also, One of my friend lowered the car on his Airmatic.
And the pump leaked just after 35k KM, and he had to pay thousands of dollars to get it fixed.
Tuning and modding these cars are more like you pay to play in Canada.
I am not sure, If its same in States.
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2016 E63 AMG S SEDAN, 2010 E550 SEDAN
Well, thats very fortunate for you.
I was told by Mercedes Service Dept,
If there is a tune on your ecu, and the problem is caused by the tune.
They will NOT warranty your engine. (I know engine most likely will be the last thing to break, but sh*t happens.)
Also, One of my friend lowered the car on his Airmatic.
And the pump leaked just after 35k KM, and he had to pay thousands of dollars to get it fixed.
Tuning and modding these cars are more like you pay to play in Canada.
I am not sure, If its same in States.
I was told by Mercedes Service Dept,
If there is a tune on your ecu, and the problem is caused by the tune.
They will NOT warranty your engine. (I know engine most likely will be the last thing to break, but sh*t happens.)
Also, One of my friend lowered the car on his Airmatic.
And the pump leaked just after 35k KM, and he had to pay thousands of dollars to get it fixed.
Tuning and modding these cars are more like you pay to play in Canada.
I am not sure, If its same in States.
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From: Edmonton alberta, canada.
Porsche 991 GT3, 2012 cls63 Kleemann K3
Well, thats very fortunate for you.
I was told by Mercedes Service Dept,
If there is a tune on your ecu, and the problem is caused by the tune.
They will NOT warranty your engine. (I know engine most likely will be the last thing to break, but sh*t happens.)
Also, One of my friend lowered the car on his Airmatic.
And the pump leaked just after 35k KM, and he had to pay thousands of dollars to get it fixed.
Tuning and modding these cars are more like you pay to play in Canada.
I am not sure, If its same in States.
I was told by Mercedes Service Dept,
If there is a tune on your ecu, and the problem is caused by the tune.
They will NOT warranty your engine. (I know engine most likely will be the last thing to break, but sh*t happens.)
Also, One of my friend lowered the car on his Airmatic.
And the pump leaked just after 35k KM, and he had to pay thousands of dollars to get it fixed.
Tuning and modding these cars are more like you pay to play in Canada.
I am not sure, If its same in States.
How did he lower it? I lowered mine with adjustable links. Just the same as what's already on the car. So it wouldn't cause a problem.
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you could flash it back to stock. It's just unfortunate that we don't have the technology yet for a handheld platform for the biturbo cars that allows you to easily swap tunes like we do for the na 63's
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LOOL you're troll city over here...
and anyway not quite sure if i agree with the analogy. you're not changing the appearance or anything with a tune, just the performance. instead of getting new "assets" it's more like she started doing a bunch of kegels, created a lumosity account, and took up learning a second language haha
and anyway not quite sure if i agree with the analogy. you're not changing the appearance or anything with a tune, just the performance. instead of getting new "assets" it's more like she started doing a bunch of kegels, created a lumosity account, and took up learning a second language haha
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Porsche 991 GT3, 2012 cls63 Kleemann K3
then you have to send it back to them again to retune after the servicing. another couple days without the car. +$$ for shipping...
not sure how many tumes the tuner will keep doing that for free.
