fallen

Hey Guys,
looking to re-join E63 gang and considering this fine example: http://www.keyesmercedes.com/car/589...3_AMG?lpid=124

Price is on the high side but the dealer is willing to come down significantly; question is what would be a good deal for this car?

What do you think, should I get 2012 - the last year of RWD but with the new M157 engine or look for 2013 with AWD?

I really like the pre-facelift look, so 2014's are not an option.

Thank you for all your feedback and advice!

megasaurus

go with a ford

fallen

Well, that was very helpful! Thank you!

megasaurus

just joking, but seriously will you be financing or paying it with a check.... I have always gotten better deals when i paid mine with a cashiers check. Also the AWD is preferably and also for resale.

Davidkuo0330

I would go for the preface RWD. It has the P30 so that is great. I went shopping at Keys before but be sure it is CPO. Almost bought one from them until I found out it was not CPO. Low mailage and check the Carfax. Good luck

kponti

2013 is preface and RWD not awd. Both cars are the same just a year newer for the 2013.

However having the 2012 myself, wonderful car however you should expect to shell out some cash to have your cooling system split. The lack of a split system does affect performance here in TX even with just 80 degree weather. If you idle for long, car will heatsoak and get slower by a substantial amount.

NickyBlack

2012 rwd

Davidkuo0330

In California weather. I'm good with my tunes, but you made a good point about RWD between 2012 and 2013 unless your in Europe.

kponti

Europe has the post face lift (what we call the 2014 here in the states) 2013 but with only RWD.

otakki

What are the differences between 2012 and 2013? I thought someone mentioned there was one year (probably post face lift) when the cooling system got upgraded...what year was that?

What kind of splitting are you referring to? What companies can perform such a split?

kponti

Both 2012 and 2013 are pre face-lift. Exact same car inside and out except the IAT cooling system is split (ams calls it divorced) from the regular engine cooling in the 2013

AMS sells a kit to split your system for around 600

fallen

Thank you all for your comments, clarifications and suggestions!

Stopped by the dealer today and drove the car - it's extremely nice; unfortunately couldn't agree on the price.

New sticker price was 108K, so P30 and LSD are on the car.
Initial asking was 59.9K, I offered 53K, GM came down to 56.9, so no deal.

Need sanity check here... Is my offer too low?

kponti

Which one is it? The 2012 or 2013?

2012, you are right to stand firm. 2013, it's a good price

fallen

It's 2012 with ~25K miles and CPO.

Davidkuo0330

2012, P30 and CPO. Take it and you will love it.

fallen

If the dealer accepts my offer I will DEFINITELY get it!

TonyC

53K is reasonable. Keyes was one of the worst dealerships (at least the Domestic brands was) I had to deal with when I picked up my last lease. 3K off a 60K used car is no deal at all, especially when they have close to 10K of margin on these cars.

wait for them to call when the car doesn't sell (and it won't, at least not before Jan 1, since it's LITERALLY FREEZING OUTSIDE in LA).

fallen

Yes, Keys is by far the worst, most unpleasant outfit I had to deal with.
Would NEVER consider them for a new car purchase (attempted once - never again!).

Hope GM will move on the price, but not holding my breath.

Vinmar9

I picked up a 2012 a few weeks ago with the P30 package, CPO for 52k. They started at 59k 3 months ago so fair deal. Iridium Silver on Ash Gray with the carbon pkg. It has 46k, sticker was 106k so very loaded and the car is super clean. Really happy with the car so far, super quick and sounds great. Love the Distronic PLUS. Only bummer is starting in comfort mode everytime but getting used to it.

fallen

You got a great deal!
The car I was looking for was sold for $56.4K.

Enjoy your new ride!

abcut973

$53k is a good offer! Take your time you'll come across better deals
GL