Anybody running M156 Kleeman Cams?
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Anybody running M156 Kleeman Cams?
Guys...so I'm thinking to inspect the cams again now, seeing as it's been a few months since I last had a look. If the wear on the lobes is any greater, I might as well replace the cams. Here is what they looked like last time. They weren't terrible, but probably were showing light signs of wear. Engine is still pretty quiet IMO and although I think the car is a bit slow, apparently it's normal for an E63 to feel like this.
FWIW the motor has revised headbolts, although whether this was done at factory or by a previous owner, I have no idea. Here's a part number of the cam gear though FWIW (if it's even legible)
SO the question is...do I go for new MB cams (around 3.5k fitted) or for an extra 1k I can have Kleeman cams fitted. This of course assuming that they're any worse than shown above.
Any first-hand experiences here?
I know a guy locally to me who has them on his C63 and he's putting down 540hp (or maybe it's 535...I can't remember) but that's with cams, tune and secondary cat delete. Still on stock headers and cats. He said the mid-range is hugely increased and has a nicer top end too, but then he has a lighter C class and his stock cams got roasted really badly so even stock cams probably would have brought a decent increase in power once he got his car back from the workshop.
FWIW the motor has revised headbolts, although whether this was done at factory or by a previous owner, I have no idea. Here's a part number of the cam gear though FWIW (if it's even legible)
SO the question is...do I go for new MB cams (around 3.5k fitted) or for an extra 1k I can have Kleeman cams fitted. This of course assuming that they're any worse than shown above.
Any first-hand experiences here?
I know a guy locally to me who has them on his C63 and he's putting down 540hp (or maybe it's 535...I can't remember) but that's with cams, tune and secondary cat delete. Still on stock headers and cats. He said the mid-range is hugely increased and has a nicer top end too, but then he has a lighter C class and his stock cams got roasted really badly so even stock cams probably would have brought a decent increase in power once he got his car back from the workshop.
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Update
Ok so here are my stock cams with 79k on them...slightly worn in places. Probably had another...7-10k of life in them until they would completely die in typical M156 style 
. Some pitting in places and a little meh n worn on a couple of lobes. Light scoring on my followers (sorry, no pics of those) and one was a little gauged apparently.
Well the good news is that I'm going to be one of the few to buy a set of Kleeman cams for this engine. I've been searching high and low over the web for any independent reviews of them but I can't find any anywhere.
I do however know one guy personally with them fitted (only person in the country with them apparently) on his C63. Before the cam install his car put down ~490hp (crank) with secondary cat delete, tune and x -pipe. After the cam instal and a retune it put down ~530hp (crank).
It'll be interesting to see how mine does, being an E class, but I'll keep you guys posted. I'm very excited hehe.
FWIW I'll be having SLS followers installed too. I figure there's no point in paying baller money for the black series followers, seeing as the normal SLS followers seem to be what everyone goes for. I'll leave the stock (revised) head bolts in there and also the vvti cam adjusters.
. Some pitting in places and a little meh n worn on a couple of lobes. Light scoring on my followers (sorry, no pics of those) and one was a little gauged apparently.
Well the good news is that I'm going to be one of the few to buy a set of Kleeman cams for this engine. I've been searching high and low over the web for any independent reviews of them but I can't find any anywhere.
I do however know one guy personally with them fitted (only person in the country with them apparently) on his C63. Before the cam install his car put down ~490hp (crank) with secondary cat delete, tune and x -pipe. After the cam instal and a retune it put down ~530hp (crank).
It'll be interesting to see how mine does, being an E class, but I'll keep you guys posted. I'm very excited hehe.
FWIW I'll be having SLS followers installed too. I figure there's no point in paying baller money for the black series followers, seeing as the normal SLS followers seem to be what everyone goes for. I'll leave the stock (revised) head bolts in there and also the vvti cam adjusters.
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Subbed. Also thinking about the Kleemann cams. Can't find any other users really, so it's tough to plop down that kinda coin for those and the upgraded lifters etc without any real-world examples.
Might want to cross-post this in the C63 forum. More likely to get answers there.
Might want to cross-post this in the C63 forum. More likely to get answers there.
Last edited by BLKROKT; Feb 26, 2016 at 06:54 PM.
