Getting a AMG!!
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Getting a AMG!!
Hey guys, currently on my phone so it'll be breif.. I am looking to buy a 2010 e63. Going to look at hopefully buy it tomorrow. But my last minute gut told me to do my research and ivery seen that some of them have bad bolts and they can get pretty costly to repair.
2010 e63 amg
This is the one I'm going to look at. I've heard that you can look up the engine number to see if they have the updated bolts or not but couldnt find it. Any advice or last minute pointers before I pull the trigger?
Thanks in advance!
Sebastian.
2010 e63 amg
This is the one I'm going to look at. I've heard that you can look up the engine number to see if they have the updated bolts or not but couldnt find it. Any advice or last minute pointers before I pull the trigger?
Thanks in advance!
Sebastian.
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I looked at the carfax service record and it looks good, even had the transmission service done a little early. Don't use after market oil filters and only use MB recommended oils. Here in the south I use 5w40 Pennzoil plat. euro. You may already know that the front rotors cost at least 1600.00. Engine holds 9.3 qts. oil The car will be due for spark plugs soon and rear diff. oil change. Good idea to Check on the head bolt issue regarding this car. Get it on a rack and check underside. Check oil for possible coolant leak. Check and make sure the everything works including the DIS knob on console(known problem) and the heating and cooling in both front seats and all controls for the driver's active seat. Good luck. The car looks good in the photos. Find out if that dealer did an oil change and if they did find out what kind of oil and filters they use. I purchased mine a few years ago from a Chevy dealer and they had changed the oil using 5w30 dino oil and an after market filter, so as soon as I got home I had the oil and filter changed at my Mercedes dealer plus a thorough check by the tech.
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The head bolt issue affects all M156 engines, up to serial number 569xx 60 060658
Build dates are typically up to mid 2010. The repair is in the $5,000 range.
Here is a C63 thread that has a lot of information.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...rly-2011s.html
Build dates are typically up to mid 2010. The repair is in the $5,000 range.
Here is a C63 thread that has a lot of information.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...rly-2011s.html
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Just pulled the data card on this vehicle and the engine number is 156985 60 056273 which means it would have the old style head bolts.
I have an SL63 that fits into this range. I wasn't aware of the headbolt issue when I bought it, but I'm not sure if I had known it would have stopped me from buying. There doesn't seem to be an established pattern of what makes them fail. Have a thorough read of the C63 thread I attached above, it has lots of good information. You could budget ~$5,000 and proactively look after the head bolt and cams at the same time.
I have an SL63 that fits into this range. I wasn't aware of the headbolt issue when I bought it, but I'm not sure if I had known it would have stopped me from buying. There doesn't seem to be an established pattern of what makes them fail. Have a thorough read of the C63 thread I attached above, it has lots of good information. You could budget ~$5,000 and proactively look after the head bolt and cams at the same time.
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Engines made after the bad serial number cut off point... ^^^ do they have revised cams/cam gears and tappets, or is it just the bolts?
My engine is a 2010 in the good engine range and I've visually verified the revised head bolts, but my cams are looking slightly tired...
My engine is a 2010 in the good engine range and I've visually verified the revised head bolts, but my cams are looking slightly tired...
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Engines made after the bad serial number cut off point... ^^^ do they have revised cams/cam gears and tappets, or is it just the bolts?
My engine is a 2010 in the good engine range and I've visually verified the revised head bolts, but my cams are looking slightly tired...
My engine is a 2010 in the good engine range and I've visually verified the revised head bolts, but my cams are looking slightly tired...
I looked at the carfax service record and it looks good, even had the transmission service done a little early. Don't use after market oil filters and only use MB recommended oils. Here in the south I use 5w40 Pennzoil plat. euro. You may already know that the front rotors cost at least 1600.00. Engine holds 9.3 qts. oil The car will be due for spark plugs soon and rear diff. oil change. Good idea to Check on the head bolt issue regarding this car. Get it on a rack and check underside. Check oil for possible coolant leak. Check and make sure the everything works including the DIS knob on console(known problem) and the heating and cooling in both front seats and all controls for the driver's active seat. Good luck. The car looks good in the photos. Find out if that dealer did an oil change and if they did find out what kind of oil and filters they use. I purchased mine a few years ago from a Chevy dealer and they had changed the oil using 5w30 dino oil and an after market filter, so as soon as I got home I had the oil and filter changed at my Mercedes dealer plus a thorough check by the tech.
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Not a value added comment but I think that car looks pretty sweet given it's age. CARFAX is very clean. Love my AMG and always look forward to driving it. I don't have experience with the head-bolt issue but if it checks out go for it.
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OP "You guys opinion since you're a tad more knowledgeable about this issue, should I pull the trigger assuming everything is good with the car when I go up there? Or should I look for one with the revised bolts ?"
Its such a good deal so if it checks out then you could save money being pro-active and have the head bolts changed before a failure. Also, if you can get a local Mercedes dealer to run the vin for any records Mercedes has on the car ; it will show all dealer service visits and repairs. I had my Mercedes dealer do this for me and it was good to have a complete history.
Its such a good deal so if it checks out then you could save money being pro-active and have the head bolts changed before a failure. Also, if you can get a local Mercedes dealer to run the vin for any records Mercedes has on the car ; it will show all dealer service visits and repairs. I had my Mercedes dealer do this for me and it was good to have a complete history.
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OP "You guys opinion since you're a tad more knowledgeable about this issue, should I pull the trigger assuming everything is good with the car when I go up there? Or should I look for one with the revised bolts ?"
Its such a good deal so if it checks out then you could save money being pro-active and have the head bolts changed before a failure. Also, if you can get a local Mercedes dealer to run the vin for any records Mercedes has on the car ; it will show all dealer service visits and repairs. I had my Mercedes dealer do this for me and it was good to have a complete history.
Its such a good deal so if it checks out then you could save money being pro-active and have the head bolts changed before a failure. Also, if you can get a local Mercedes dealer to run the vin for any records Mercedes has on the car ; it will show all dealer service visits and repairs. I had my Mercedes dealer do this for me and it was good to have a complete history.
Called local Benz dealer but she wasn't very helpful.
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In terms of LSD, I purchased a Quaife LSD and had it installed for a total of about $2,000. Also (just from what I've read) the Quaife is better than the standard Mercedes LSD, but purely anecdotal, I have no facts to support that. In terms of the Performance Package, there does seem to be big demand for it, but I don't think (imho) it adds that much to this model. No hp, different wheels and steering wheel, bit of suspension tuning and brakes. I wouldn't have paid $10k for it and wouldn't pay a premium on a used model.
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Sorry, I was thinking I was in the SL forum (lol) I'm not sure what the E Class performance package has.
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My E63 has an LSD, but I installed a Quaife unit in my Slk55. Very happy with it. In CA, you can head down to ACG for the purchase and install. They've installed quite a few in various MB models.
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Did your e63 come with the p30 or did you go with a quaife in that one too ?
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I purchased the LSD as part of a forum group buy (I can send you the link but think it is over) from Bird's in the UK and shipped to North America. Seamless transaction, Bird's was great to deal with. I had it installed by my local Indy (servicing my cars for years). The cost of install was about twice what it should have been but I was ok with that. It is a hard install and they hadn't done it before. Bird's suggested 5 hours, it took them 10.
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I purchased the LSD as part of a forum group buy (I can send you the link but think it is over) from Bird's in the UK and shipped to North America. Seamless transaction, Bird's was great to deal with. I had it installed by my local Indy (servicing my cars for years). The cost of install was about twice what it should have been but I was ok with that. It is a hard install and they hadn't done it before. Bird's suggested 5 hours, it took them 10.
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I like it a lot more with the LSD, especially with traction control off and would make the purchase again. I do find the wheels continue to spin because of the power, but I find it much more predictable than it was without LSD. I decided to do this (and the ROW air boxes) because it didn't seem worth spending the money increasing horsepower when I couldn't get enough traction to make it seem worthwhile. Much better traction now than it was.
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I like it a lot more with the LSD, especially with traction control off and would make the purchase again. I do find the wheels continue to spin because of the power, but I find it much more predictable than it was without LSD. I decided to do this (and the ROW air boxes) because it didn't seem worth spending the money increasing horsepower when I couldn't get enough traction to make it seem worthwhile. Much better traction now than it was.
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I did not buy the white one and I have another possibility on the table that was just brought up to me which is probably a better route to go with. I'll keep you guys posted!
Sebastian,
