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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 03:38 AM
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Hi there, i have been absent from here for a while, well ever sense I sold my w211 E55. During this time I was a proud owner of '10 GTR. After fbo and English Racing tune I was pushing 580 at the wheels and did 10.9@128mph 1/4 here in PDX at PIR. All was well but I realy missed feel/looks/quality of German made interiors so after a year or so I just purchased '14 E63 S 4matic. Great car over all, loaded with goodies like distronic plus, cameras all around, driver assist, ceramic brakes, etc.... Two weeks of ownership I took the car to English Racing where they sent the ecu to AMS for some Alpha flashing. Before they took the ecu out they did baseline pulls on their dyno and we were all shocked. Benz advertised 577bhp but the car put down 546whp making it around 637bhp; nice! Two days later ecu was back and results are awesome; 619awhp which is around 760bhp! This is with tune only. I did res delete and that is it. Its been few weeks and no probs at all! $3000 was well worth it! Car is a beast. I did few roll runs with buddys '12 rwd E63 stock and i blew him out the water! I had 6 car lenghts on him 40-120. Just wanted to give my thoughts on how great and balanced the E63 s realy is! Great to be back on this great forum btw!
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 07:02 AM
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Hi there, i have been absent from here for a while, well ever sense I sold my w211 E55. During this time I was a proud owner of '10 GTR. After fbo and English Racing tune I was pushing 580 at the wheels and did 10.9@128mph 1/4 here in PDX at PIR. All was well but I realy missed feel/looks/quality of German made interiors so after a year or so I just purchased '14 E63 S 4matic. Great car over all, loaded with goodies like distronic plus, cameras all around, driver assist, ceramic brakes, etc.... Two weeks of ownership I took the car to English Racing where they sent the ecu to AMS for some Alpha flashing. Before they took the ecu out they did baseline pulls on their dyno and we were all shocked. Benz advertised 577bhp but the car put down 546whp making it around 637bhp; nice! Two days later ecu was back and results are awesome; 619awhp which is around 760bhp! This is with tune only. I did res delete and that is it. Its been few weeks and no probs at all! $3000 was well worth it! Car is a beast. I did few roll runs with buddys '12 rwd E63 stock and i blew him out the water! I had 6 car lenghts on him 40-120. Just wanted to give my thoughts on how great and balanced the E63 s realy is! Great to be back on this great forum btw!
Welcome! You and I crossed similar paths. I had an E55 and then went to a bolt-on GTR and now back into an E63S. I was really missing be refinement of a luxury car and just couldn't stand how the GTR only focused on being a fast car. Lots of things lacking in a car that pricey. My brothers maxima had more features than my GTR had.

So you had an AMS tune and you gained 70hp and 130lb-ft of torque? That's odd... I thought they advertised more gains than that.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 07:40 AM
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Yes I agree with you as far as GTR goes. Gains were around 200bhp over stock and 275btq over stock. Numbers i posted are hp to the wheels bud. Car now has around 760hp (620awhp)
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 07:42 AM
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AMS advertises 700 (alpha 7) but that bhp not whp.
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Welcome back to the forum. Was wondering if your friend's 2012 E63 RWD has the P30 performance package?

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Hi there, i have been absent from here for a while, well ever sense I sold my w211 E55. During this time I was a proud owner of '10 GTR. After fbo and English Racing tune I was pushing 580 at the wheels and did 10.9@128mph 1/4 here in PDX at PIR. All was well but I realy missed feel/looks/quality of German made interiors so after a year or so I just purchased '14 E63 S 4matic. Great car over all, loaded with goodies like distronic plus, cameras all around, driver assist, ceramic brakes, etc.... Two weeks of ownership I took the car to English Racing where they sent the ecu to AMS for some Alpha flashing. Before they took the ecu out they did baseline pulls on their dyno and we were all shocked. Benz advertised 577bhp but the car put down 546whp making it around 637bhp; nice! Two days later ecu was back and results are awesome; 619awhp which is around 760bhp! This is with tune only. I did res delete and that is it. Its been few weeks and no probs at all! $3000 was well worth it! Car is a beast. I did few roll runs with buddys '12 rwd E63 stock and i blew him out the water! I had 6 car lenghts on him 40-120. Just wanted to give my thoughts on how great and balanced the E63 s realy is! Great to be back on this great forum btw!
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 01:15 PM
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Thank you. His is non P package.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 01:51 PM
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I have the 2012 RWD P30 and LSD and comparing the 2014 E63 stock to stock, I doubt it would be 6 car length ahead.

I have had my Alpha 9 for a while now and the power is absolutely amazing.

Have fun with her.

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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by E55MS
Hi there, i have been absent from here for a while, well ever sense I sold my w211 E55. During this time I was a proud owner of '10 GTR. After fbo and English Racing tune I was pushing 580 at the wheels and did 10.9@128mph 1/4 here in PDX at PIR. All was well but I realy missed feel/looks/quality of German made interiors so after a year or so I just purchased '14 E63 S 4matic. Great car over all, loaded with goodies like distronic plus, cameras all around, driver assist, ceramic brakes, etc.... Two weeks of ownership I took the car to English Racing where they sent the ecu to AMS for some Alpha flashing. Before they took the ecu out they did baseline pulls on their dyno and we were all shocked. Benz advertised 577bhp but the car put down 546whp making it around 637bhp; nice! Two days later ecu was back and results are awesome; 619awhp which is around 760bhp! This is with tune only. I did res delete and that is it. Its been few weeks and no probs at all! $3000 was well worth it! Car is a beast. I did few roll runs with buddys '12 rwd E63 stock and i blew him out the water! I had 6 car lenghts on him 40-120. Just wanted to give my thoughts on how great and balanced the E63 s realy is! Great to be back on this great forum btw!
That sounds great! One more post that makes me not be able to wait for my car to arrive.

BTW, did you paint your calipers red? Usually the ceramic brake calipers are gold.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 04:09 PM
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Welcome back and thanks for sharing your experience. I'm sure the AWD didn't hurt when it comes to dealing with the rain and putting the power down!
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 08:18 PM
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That sounds great! One more post that makes me not be able to wait for my car to arrive.

BTW, did you paint your calipers red? Usually the ceramic brake calipers are gold.
No they came red.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 08:19 PM
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I have the 2012 RWD P30 and LSD and comparing the 2014 E63 stock to stock, I doubt it would be 6 car length ahead.

I have had my Alpha 9 for a while now and the power is absolutely amazing.

Have fun with her.
9 must be a blast! I put 6 car lenghts with new tune bud not stock for stock.
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Welcome back and thanks for sharing your experience. I'm sure the AWD didn't hurt when it comes to dealing with the rain and putting the power down!
Yes AWD is a way to go!
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Thanks. It is a blast and it's especially help when a E63 gets challenge allot and love to see the other drive's face when I pull away from them.

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9 must be a blast! I put 6 car lenghts with new tune bud not stock for stock.
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I would check the original sticker and data card on your car. Red calipers on the E63 S model and its gold if it's CCB.

Good luck.

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No they came red.
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Originally Posted by Davidkuo0330
I would check the original sticker and data card on your car. Red calipers on the E63 S model and its gold if it's CCB.

Good luck.
+1.... though the red is actually a no-cost option, but only as an option for non-CCBs, I believe.
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Correct. The preface P30 package and the facelift E63S has red calipers as standard, CCB which comes in gold is the upgraded option.

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+1.... though the red is actually a no-cost option, but only as an option for non-CCBs, I believe.
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Very nice car, however, it does not have CCBs. Carbon rotors do not have slots and the front rotor in the photo has slots.
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Very nice car, however, it does not have CCBs. Carbon rotors do not have slots and the front rotor in the photo has slots.
Well iguess it doesnt have ccb 😔😳
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I think what everyone is trying to say is you don't want not to get what you paid for. If it helps, road and track did a comparison between the red and CCB and it was not worth the money.

Have fun with your new toy.

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Well iguess it doesnt have ccb 😔😳
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If it helps, road and track did a comparison between the red and CCB and it was not worth the money.

I completely agree CCBs aren't exactly necessary or a good value, but I'd still be interested in seeing the R&T comparison. Do you have a link? I tried googling for it, but couldn't find anything that looked similar.
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If you search on this forum, you would find my old link on the R&T results. That was why I didn't get my with the CCBs. The stopping was 2 feet better , but R&T said it was not worth the money unless it is for track use.

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I completely agree CCBs aren't exactly necessary or a good value, but I'd still be interested in seeing the R&T comparison. Do you have a link? I tried googling for it, but couldn't find anything that looked similar.
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