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2016 Mercedes Benz E 63 S AMG Wagon
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So i'm posting this on the benz forum and I expect bias but i thought i'd ask anyways.
My 2016 E63 S Wagon is supposed to arrive April 4th now after almost a month of delays. Mercedes hasn't done anything to help out with the delay even though I sold my other car based on their expected delivery date. I'm pretty miffed and now I was contacted by my Range Rover Dealer (I just previously drove a Range Rover and so I was on their call list).
They have a Range Rover Sport SVR available and it comes to the same price as the E wagon. I test drove it and it is pretty wicked and that exhaust note is absolutely insane.
My questions is what would you pick? I guess being angry at my dealer is pushing me away from the Merc, so I thought i'd ask the board.
Thanks.
My 2016 E63 S Wagon is supposed to arrive April 4th now after almost a month of delays. Mercedes hasn't done anything to help out with the delay even though I sold my other car based on their expected delivery date. I'm pretty miffed and now I was contacted by my Range Rover Dealer (I just previously drove a Range Rover and so I was on their call list).
They have a Range Rover Sport SVR available and it comes to the same price as the E wagon. I test drove it and it is pretty wicked and that exhaust note is absolutely insane.
My questions is what would you pick? I guess being angry at my dealer is pushing me away from the Merc, so I thought i'd ask the board.
Thanks.
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Although it seems like you haven't had the best dealer experience, you're now only about two weeks away from delivery. I wouldn't change now, especially since you've already waited this long. And I certainly wouldn't switch to a RR.
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Never driving in a RR, but I really think you answer your own question.
1: You came off a RR.
2: You decided to jump ship to a E63.
Waiting for a dream car comes with a price. My trend of thought, how do one compare a RR to a Mercedes and not just a Mercedex, an AMG.
1: You came off a RR.
2: You decided to jump ship to a E63.
Waiting for a dream car comes with a price. My trend of thought, how do one compare a RR to a Mercedes and not just a Mercedex, an AMG.
So i'm posting this on the benz forum and I expect bias but i thought i'd ask anyways.
My 2016 E63 S Wagon is supposed to arrive April 4th now after almost a month of delays. Mercedes hasn't done anything to help out with the delay even though I sold my other car based on their expected delivery date. I'm pretty miffed and now I was contacted by my Range Rover Dealer (I just previously drove a Range Rover and so I was on their call list).
They have a Range Rover Sport SVR available and it comes to the same price as the E wagon. I test drove it and it is pretty wicked and that exhaust note is absolutely insane.
My questions is what would you pick? I guess being angry at my dealer is pushing me away from the Merc, so I thought i'd ask the board.
Thanks.
My 2016 E63 S Wagon is supposed to arrive April 4th now after almost a month of delays. Mercedes hasn't done anything to help out with the delay even though I sold my other car based on their expected delivery date. I'm pretty miffed and now I was contacted by my Range Rover Dealer (I just previously drove a Range Rover and so I was on their call list).
They have a Range Rover Sport SVR available and it comes to the same price as the E wagon. I test drove it and it is pretty wicked and that exhaust note is absolutely insane.
My questions is what would you pick? I guess being angry at my dealer is pushing me away from the Merc, so I thought i'd ask the board.
Thanks.
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2016 Mercedes Benz E 63 S AMG Wagon
Never driving in a RR, but I really think you answer your own question.
1: You came off a RR.
2: You decided to jump ship to a E63.
Waiting for a dream car comes with a price. My trend of thought, how do one compare a RR to a Mercedes and not just a Mercedex, an AMG.
1: You came off a RR.
2: You decided to jump ship to a E63.
Waiting for a dream car comes with a price. My trend of thought, how do one compare a RR to a Mercedes and not just a Mercedex, an AMG.
The more I think about it tonight though, i'm leaning back towards the AMG. It's a full second faster to 60 with mind boggling torque. Also I ordered a custom designo interior and the SVR has a 2 tone black/cirrus interior which I dont' love.
More opinions are welcomed though!
Thanks everyone.
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It's been a couple of years since I've tried a Range Rover, and it wasn't the SVR, but my recollection is the RR drives very much like a truck (albeit a very nice one!), versus the E63 which handles more like a car. I've driven both an E63 wagon (2WD) and now have the E63 S sedan and the wagon compared admirably to the sedan.
Could be the RR SVR version is much tighter than the experience I recall, but I ended up not going the RR route in any case. I currently have a number of Mercedes and overall am pretty happy with them. Can't say the e63 is my favourite, but still a very nice car and if for some reason I had to reduce the number of vehicles I have, this would likely be the keeper.
Could be the RR SVR version is much tighter than the experience I recall, but I ended up not going the RR route in any case. I currently have a number of Mercedes and overall am pretty happy with them. Can't say the e63 is my favourite, but still a very nice car and if for some reason I had to reduce the number of vehicles I have, this would likely be the keeper.
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The E63 is absolutely wicked, exhaust note especially. Unless you are coming off an actual rocket it will make you smile every time you sink the pedal. Of course the SVR is nice too, but 2 weeks is nothing to get exactly what you want.
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It's been a couple of years since I've tried a Range Rover, and it wasn't the SVR, but my recollection is the RR drives very much like a truck (albeit a very nice one!), versus the E63 which handles more like a car. I've driven both an E63 wagon (2WD) and now have the E63 S sedan and the wagon compared admirably to the sedan.
Could be the RR SVR version is much tighter than the experience I recall, but I ended up not going the RR route in any case. I currently have a number of Mercedes and overall am pretty happy with them. Can't say the e63 is my favourite, but still a very nice car and if for some reason I had to reduce the number of vehicles I have, this would likely be the keeper.
Could be the RR SVR version is much tighter than the experience I recall, but I ended up not going the RR route in any case. I currently have a number of Mercedes and overall am pretty happy with them. Can't say the e63 is my favourite, but still a very nice car and if for some reason I had to reduce the number of vehicles I have, this would likely be the keeper.
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Yeah it's been a 5 month wait so I guess another 2 weeks is nothing. It's just how customer unfriendly the dealer has been when i'm spending a big chunk of change. I realize they deal with high rollers all the time who spend a lot more than what I will be spending, but I expected better treatment.
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I hear you on the dealer experience. I like where I've purchased several of mine from, but they are too far away for regular servicing. I've pretty much given up on the dealers in my general area and take it a local indy who treats my cars like their his own. Best dealer experience I've had was in Lakeland Florida, where the treatment was what I expected a Mercedes experience to be like. I've tried 5 different dealerships in the greater Toronto area and have been underwhelmed.
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I hear you on the dealer experience. I like where I've purchased several of mine from, but they are too far away for regular servicing. I've pretty much given up on the dealers in my general area and take it a local indy who treats my cars like their his own. Best dealer experience I've had was in Lakeland Florida, where the treatment was what I expected a Mercedes experience to be like. I've tried 5 different dealerships in the greater Toronto area and have been underwhelmed.
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If you think about it. I have a GL63. If we need to compare a RR against an AMG, at lease compare it to a AMG SUV. If you look at the performance numbers between a E63 S vs any SUV. You will not find numbers close to compare.
I think the mix of being pissed at the dealer and the deadly exhaust note has made me compare the RR to an AMG. If it wasn't an SVR i would never think of it.
The more I think about it tonight though, i'm leaning back towards the AMG. It's a full second faster to 60 with mind boggling torque. Also I ordered a custom designo interior and the SVR has a 2 tone black/cirrus interior which I dont' love.
More opinions are welcomed though!
Thanks everyone.
The more I think about it tonight though, i'm leaning back towards the AMG. It's a full second faster to 60 with mind boggling torque. Also I ordered a custom designo interior and the SVR has a 2 tone black/cirrus interior which I dont' love.
More opinions are welcomed though!
Thanks everyone.
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Yeah i'm in Edmonton and we have 2 dealers here. The first one got bought out last year and has been generally bad for the past five years. The one i bought from just got bought out a couple months ago. They've always had a decent reputation but maybe new ownership and management will change that.
If you want to see what a mildly modified e63 s-amg can do let me know. I've got downpipes and a rebellion automotive piggyback ( +60 whp )
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Svr is an impressive machine no doubt but that higher center of gravity is not as confidence inspiring as the Benz
Try and find a Benz e63 on a lot to drive and then go drive that svr again....
Try and find a Benz e63 on a lot to drive and then go drive that svr again....
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Why not both? SVR is incredible machine as well as the E63 wagon. Owning both vehicles I can say that the SVR gearbox is far superior and exhaust much louder. It's the only automatic gearbox i enjoy shifting manually. Everyone knows the AMG gearbox is laggy at times. But of course the E63 is much faster, handles better and works quite well in S+. The wagon will hold much more luggage and it's the vehicle I choose when i need to pick up large items or carry my labs. I use the SVR for towing. SVR maybe slower but it really is a blast to drive as it has torque everywhere and will spin all four off the line.
Just went skiing with the family and you can not fit 4 large suitcases in the SVR, but you can in a E63 Wagon.
Just went skiing with the family and you can not fit 4 large suitcases in the SVR, but you can in a E63 Wagon.
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Why not both? SVR is incredible machine as well as the E63 wagon. Owning both vehicles I can say that the SVR gearbox is far superior and exhaust much louder. It's the only automatic gearbox i enjoy shifting manually. Everyone knows the AMG gearbox is laggy at times. But of course the E63 is much faster, handles better and works quite well in S+. The wagon will hold much more luggage and it's the vehicle I choose when i need to pick up large items or carry my labs. I use the SVR for towing. SVR maybe slower but it really is a blast to drive as it has torque everywhere and will spin all four off the line.
Just went skiing with the family and you can not fit 4 large suitcases in the SVR, but you can in a E63 Wagon.
Just went skiing with the family and you can not fit 4 large suitcases in the SVR, but you can in a E63 Wagon.
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I've waited 18 months for my wagon and absolutely love it. 2 weeks is nothing! I agree that MB are not the best at giving info on delivery date. Their tracking system sucks! I actually told my sales manager that my car was in Halifax (I was following the boat on the web...) and the system was showing it still at port in Germany!
If exhaust note is not enough you can add a Renntech sport muffler for about 2.5k and it changes the personality of the car.
If exhaust note is not enough you can add a Renntech sport muffler for about 2.5k and it changes the personality of the car.
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