new turbo upgrade
#1
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: miami / delray beach
Posts: 2,841
Received 201 Likes
on
154 Posts
2014 E63s amg 4matic, 2009 C63, 2006 E55 AMG , 2001.5 AUDI S4 stg 3+ w/meth
new turbo upgrade
anyone see this from Powerhaus performance? this was on a mustang dyno so dynojet whp figure should be above +720... the weistec W3 package is what they are calling competitors that made 538whp on their mustang dyno, so they made +104whp over the W3 kit.... and best part is pricing... read on boost sites that price was 6,999 with 2 week wait time
the owner of the car is saying 60-130 about 6.5,,,, for reference tuned 60-130 is about 7.8, so at 6.5 that upgrade seems to be putting down some major power over a tune
the owner of the car is saying 60-130 about 6.5,,,, for reference tuned 60-130 is about 7.8, so at 6.5 that upgrade seems to be putting down some major power over a tune
Last edited by gaspam; 05-23-2016 at 06:36 PM.
#2
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: miami / delray beach
Posts: 2,841
Received 201 Likes
on
154 Posts
2014 E63s amg 4matic, 2009 C63, 2006 E55 AMG , 2001.5 AUDI S4 stg 3+ w/meth
google "Powerhaus Performance claims their M157 (W212 E63 AMG) twin turbo upgrade picks up over 100 wheel horsepower on a competitor's turbo upgrade at same boost" if you want to read more on boost site and see quite a bit of negative comments on experiences with weistec and their bulletproof trans not being so bulletproof... looks like its slipping in this setup
#3
Am I seeing things or is the intake box flexing in under WOT?
#4
google "Powerhaus Performance claims their M157 (W212 E63 AMG) twin turbo upgrade picks up over 100 wheel horsepower on a competitor's turbo upgrade at same boost" if you want to read more on boost site and see quite a bit of negative comments on experiences with weistec and their bulletproof trans not being so bulletproof... looks like its slipping in this setup
#6
Super Member
That's the shop that tuned my car. I saw that E63 when I was there.. That thing is a beast! The guys there really know their stuff and they work on a lot of high end cars.
Trending Topics
#8
Super Member
Just to let you know, good stage 2 software allows your car to reach 6.2-6.4s in 100-200 km/p. Which is 62-130mph. This what I have I my car. Stage 2 + will cut time further.
Stage 1+ (including tcu update ) takes you to 6.6s mark in 100-200km/h . Results from e63amg s 4matic
They should measure their st3 on face lifted version. Stock non facelift I think goes on 9.3s 100-200.
Stage 1+ (including tcu update ) takes you to 6.6s mark in 100-200km/h . Results from e63amg s 4matic
They should measure their st3 on face lifted version. Stock non facelift I think goes on 9.3s 100-200.
Last edited by dav461; 05-23-2016 at 09:46 PM.
#9
MBWorld Fanatic!
Just to let you know, good stage 2 software allows your car to reach 6.2-6.4s in 100-200 km/p. Which is 62-130mph. This what I have I my car. Stage 2 + will cut time further.
Stage 1+ (including tcu update ) takes you to 6.6s mark in 100-200km/h . Results from e63amg s 4matic
They should measure their st3 on face lifted version. Stock non facelift I think goes on 9.3s 100-200.
Stage 1+ (including tcu update ) takes you to 6.6s mark in 100-200km/h . Results from e63amg s 4matic
They should measure their st3 on face lifted version. Stock non facelift I think goes on 9.3s 100-200.
#11
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: miami / delray beach
Posts: 2,841
Received 201 Likes
on
154 Posts
2014 E63s amg 4matic, 2009 C63, 2006 E55 AMG , 2001.5 AUDI S4 stg 3+ w/meth
read post #4 - weistec v2 bullet proof trans with 1000 miles n already slipping on top of fifth huge fail
# 12- It's a shame why people stay quiet about it,I know of minimum 5 cars with their trans having issues n two r in ny
# 13- Yea man the V2 trans is a total fail. I have it on my stage 3 c63 and its just barely fine on the standard 67mm pulley but slips with the 60mm pulley which is ridiculous as its not making that much torque its just a bad design. Guys there wont even answer the phone after dumping all that money on there products. Not to mention they still owe me a refund from my CLA45 tune that was surging all over the place and had to flash back to stock after 2 weeks. They haven't refunded the money and its been like 6 months. Anyone who hands over there pagani to let them tune it is out of there mind.
# 14 - Interesting ive been having issues launching off the line my 60ft times are terrible since upgrading to the stage 3 maybe its the trans
#12
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: miami / delray beach
Posts: 2,841
Received 201 Likes
on
154 Posts
2014 E63s amg 4matic, 2009 C63, 2006 E55 AMG , 2001.5 AUDI S4 stg 3+ w/meth
Just to let you know, good stage 2 software allows your car to reach 6.2-6.4s in 100-200 km/p. Which is 62-130mph. This what I have I my car. Stage 2 + will cut time further.
Stage 1+ (including tcu update ) takes you to 6.6s mark in 100-200km/h . Results from e63amg s 4matic
They should measure their st3 on face lifted version. Stock non facelift I think goes on 9.3s 100-200.
Stage 1+ (including tcu update ) takes you to 6.6s mark in 100-200km/h . Results from e63amg s 4matic
They should measure their st3 on face lifted version. Stock non facelift I think goes on 9.3s 100-200.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...mph-times.html
Last edited by gaspam; 05-24-2016 at 09:30 AM.
#13
read post #4 - weistec v2 bullet proof trans with 1000 miles n already slipping on top of fifth huge fail
# 12- It's a shame why people stay quiet about it,I know of minimum 5 cars with their trans having issues n two r in ny
# 13- Yea man the V2 trans is a total fail. I have it on my stage 3 c63 and its just barely fine on the standard 67mm pulley but slips with the 60mm pulley which is ridiculous as its not making that much torque its just a bad design. Guys there wont even answer the phone after dumping all that money on there products. Not to mention they still owe me a refund from my CLA45 tune that was surging all over the place and had to flash back to stock after 2 weeks. They haven't refunded the money and its been like 6 months. Anyone who hands over there pagani to let them tune it is out of there mind.
# 14 - Interesting ive been having issues launching off the line my 60ft times are terrible since upgrading to the stage 3 maybe its the trans
# 12- It's a shame why people stay quiet about it,I know of minimum 5 cars with their trans having issues n two r in ny
# 13- Yea man the V2 trans is a total fail. I have it on my stage 3 c63 and its just barely fine on the standard 67mm pulley but slips with the 60mm pulley which is ridiculous as its not making that much torque its just a bad design. Guys there wont even answer the phone after dumping all that money on there products. Not to mention they still owe me a refund from my CLA45 tune that was surging all over the place and had to flash back to stock after 2 weeks. They haven't refunded the money and its been like 6 months. Anyone who hands over there pagani to let them tune it is out of there mind.
# 14 - Interesting ive been having issues launching off the line my 60ft times are terrible since upgrading to the stage 3 maybe its the trans
#16
MBWorld Fanatic!
If you have ever seen the turbine wheel of a stock turbo, there is no doubt that the exhaust side needs work. No way it flows enough up top to make serious power. It's kind of criminal that people put a $100 billet wheel on a stock turbo and want to charge 8K. Good to see more options. Any idea on the cost?
Side not, the also added meth to that car, so there is a huge timing bump they can add there. Even a few degrees means 30-50whp on a boosted car.
Side not, the also added meth to that car, so there is a huge timing bump they can add there. Even a few degrees means 30-50whp on a boosted car.
#17
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: miami / delray beach
Posts: 2,841
Received 201 Likes
on
154 Posts
2014 E63s amg 4matic, 2009 C63, 2006 E55 AMG , 2001.5 AUDI S4 stg 3+ w/meth
If you have ever seen the turbine wheel of a stock turbo, there is no doubt that the exhaust side needs work. No way it flows enough up top to make serious power. It's kind of criminal that people put a $100 billet wheel on a stock turbo and want to charge 8K. Good to see more options. Any idea on the cost?
Side not, the also added meth to that car, so there is a huge timing bump they can add there. Even a few degrees means 30-50whp on a boosted car.
Side not, the also added meth to that car, so there is a huge timing bump they can add there. Even a few degrees means 30-50whp on a boosted car.
they said they also gained another 20-30whp (over the +100whp the turbos/ meth made) when they did a second race tune for Ms109, so that would tell me the 93oct+meth tune was not advancing timing much if they were able to pickup 20-30 more on race gas since 93+meth= about 110 oct and you wouldnt pick up any power really if you were already advancing the timing on the 93+meth mixture over race gas
#18
Senior Member
$6,999 and from what i understand tune timing was not modified for meth
they said they also gained another 20-30whp (over the +100whp the turbos/ meth made) when they did a second race tune for Ms109, so that would tell me the 93oct+meth tune was not advancing timing much if they were able to pickup 20-30 more on race gas since 93+meth= about 110 oct and you wouldnt pick up any power really if you were already advancing the timing on the 93+meth mixture over race gas
they said they also gained another 20-30whp (over the +100whp the turbos/ meth made) when they did a second race tune for Ms109, so that would tell me the 93oct+meth tune was not advancing timing much if they were able to pickup 20-30 more on race gas since 93+meth= about 110 oct and you wouldnt pick up any power really if you were already advancing the timing on the 93+meth mixture over race gas
#23
MBWorld Fanatic!
Just to let you know, good stage 2 software allows your car to reach 6.2-6.4s in 100-200 km/p. Which is 62-130mph. This what I have I my car. Stage 2 + will cut time further.
Stage 1+ (including tcu update ) takes you to 6.6s mark in 100-200km/h . Results from e63amg s 4matic
They should measure their st3 on face lifted version. Stock non facelift I think goes on 9.3s 100-200.
Stage 1+ (including tcu update ) takes you to 6.6s mark in 100-200km/h . Results from e63amg s 4matic
They should measure their st3 on face lifted version. Stock non facelift I think goes on 9.3s 100-200.
Last edited by Amg63-; 03-27-2017 at 12:21 PM.