tuned boost
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1994 E500, 2012 e63
tuned boost
I got a tune about 5-6 months ago when I first got the car and it's a beast but with my scanguage I am showing 14.9lbs boost. I just read somewhere that the e63s has stock 18lbs. I'm thinking about maybe having my tunner increase the boost. I installed and gaped colder plugs before my tune already. Is it better I just leave things alone?
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Page 8 has the answer to your question (1 denotes performance package as per the notes)
http://autocats.ws/manual/sdmedia/me...001_002_en.pdf
http://autocats.ws/manual/sdmedia/me...001_002_en.pdf
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I got a tune about 5-6 months ago when I first got the car and it's a beast but with my scanguage I am showing 14.9lbs boost. I just read somewhere that the e63s has stock 18lbs. I'm thinking about maybe having my tunner increase the boost. I installed and gaped colder plugs before my tune already. Is it better I just leave things alone?
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Shardul. Thank you!
Gaspam. Im running EC tune, I called them a few hours ago and they said the have a more aggressive tune they can load which was not available at the time I originally purchased. So i will have to make an appointment to bring the car in. My scanguage 2 was not programmed but when I had it on my SL55 with 168 pulley I was getting the same boost as others on the forum which makes me think my Gauge is fine. I also think I read on this forum somewhere that the tunes do not increase boost but just change when it comes in and how long it's held for. If that's is true than is it safe to add 3-4 more lbs
Gaspam. Im running EC tune, I called them a few hours ago and they said the have a more aggressive tune they can load which was not available at the time I originally purchased. So i will have to make an appointment to bring the car in. My scanguage 2 was not programmed but when I had it on my SL55 with 168 pulley I was getting the same boost as others on the forum which makes me think my Gauge is fine. I also think I read on this forum somewhere that the tunes do not increase boost but just change when it comes in and how long it's held for. If that's is true than is it safe to add 3-4 more lbs
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Shardul. Thank you!
Gaspam. Im running EC tune, I called them a few hours ago and they said the have a more aggressive tune they can load which was not available at the time I originally purchased. So i will have to make an appointment to bring the car in. My scanguage 2 was not programmed but when I had it on my SL55 with 168 pulley I was getting the same boost as others on the forum which makes me think my Gauge is fine. I also think I read on this forum somewhere that the tunes do not increase boost but just change when it comes in and how long it's held for. If that's is true than is it safe to add 3-4 more lbs
Gaspam. Im running EC tune, I called them a few hours ago and they said the have a more aggressive tune they can load which was not available at the time I originally purchased. So i will have to make an appointment to bring the car in. My scanguage 2 was not programmed but when I had it on my SL55 with 168 pulley I was getting the same boost as others on the forum which makes me think my Gauge is fine. I also think I read on this forum somewhere that the tunes do not increase boost but just change when it comes in and how long it's held for. If that's is true than is it safe to add 3-4 more lbs
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that is correct... most of the current tunes just take the peak boost of the s-model/ performance package (18.8 psi) and hold it all they way to redline, where as the s-model/ performance package tapper if down towards redline
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So at these levels does anybody know roughly how much each lb of boost will translate to hp?. Just trying so see if it will be worth the cost of re-tune. Many years ago I had a procharged 383 and went from 5lb's to 13lbs and it was night and day difference but that's a completely different platform.
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our stock turbos are MGT2260MSL and i've heard after 20psi they run out of flow but i cant find the MGT2260MSL compressor maps to verify.... if its anything close to a GT2259 (similar stock mass flow of 28 lb/min) then that would put pressure ratio at around 2.25 which would put max boost of around 19 psi while being on the outer islands of the compressor map
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Hmmm, could the tuners run more timing advance if we installed Meth injection? Swapping turbos is a pain in the *** and very expensive.
I want to maximize the stock turbos.
Currently have the UPD intake kit, catless downpipes, and a speedriven tune. They told me the intercooler upgrade would be a waste of money on 14+ models. I can pickup about another 20hp with their exhaust however. But I don't really want to lose my black nightstyle package tips and it sounds perfect right now.
I want to maximize the stock turbos.
Currently have the UPD intake kit, catless downpipes, and a speedriven tune. They told me the intercooler upgrade would be a waste of money on 14+ models. I can pickup about another 20hp with their exhaust however. But I don't really want to lose my black nightstyle package tips and it sounds perfect right now.
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I just put meth on the car about a month ago but didn't tune for it. Going to the track on friday to see if it picks up anything. Took the car out for a blast tonight and seen my boost all over the place maybe my scanguage is a piece of crap. Hard to stare at it at WOT but I definitely saw over 19lbs for a brief moment. Also saw 13lbs
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weistec told me that 20 is the threshold for turbo efficiency. and that they can turn it up but will cause peaky, and unsmooth power and put more stress on stock internals. and that the motor will blow at 24psi..
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Hmmm, could the tuners run more timing advance if we installed Meth injection? Swapping turbos is a pain in the *** and very expensive.
I want to maximize the stock turbos.
Currently have the UPD intake kit, catless downpipes, and a speedriven tune. They told me the intercooler upgrade would be a waste of money on 14+ models. I can pickup about another 20hp with their exhaust however. But I don't really want to lose my black nightstyle package tips and it sounds perfect right now.
I want to maximize the stock turbos.
Currently have the UPD intake kit, catless downpipes, and a speedriven tune. They told me the intercooler upgrade would be a waste of money on 14+ models. I can pickup about another 20hp with their exhaust however. But I don't really want to lose my black nightstyle package tips and it sounds perfect right now.
Not sure if deleting mufflers will add any power, I could be wrong.
