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Old Dec 30, 2016 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Amg63-
I only got one question now. No more being "annoying"

Are you happy with the decision to go with a hellcat?
it'll smoke your M5 , CLS , E from 60 roll bad .
if to be more specific
1 I have a car not on the lift for year
2 fun
3 potential
4 cheap parts compare to benz after market parts
5 I placed my order for 750 rwhp pack yesterday I'll see it in 3 days
the only down side is tires and interior it's sucks , but when you flooring it you don't car
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Old Dec 30, 2016 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Fairbird
it'll smoke your M5 , CLS , E from 60 roll bad .
if to be more specific
1 I have a car not on the lift for year
2 fun
3 potential
4 cheap parts compare to benz after market parts
5 I placed my order for 750 rwhp pack yesterday I'll see it in 3 days
the only down side is tires and interior it's sucks , but when you flooring it you don't car
That's great news. Glad you FINALLY got a car that your pleased with after that experience.

I'm guessing you will need drag radials or R888 on the car all the time to handle such power on the streets.
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Old Dec 30, 2016 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Amg63-
That's great news. Glad you FINALLY got a car that your pleased with after that experience.

I'm guessing you will need drag radials or R888 on the car all the time to handle such power on the streets.
NT 555r will do the job just fine and not as pricy .
It's not finally , I had a few nice fast cars , MB their biggest fail .
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 12:14 PM
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cheers amg63- and happy new year bro
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
I don't mind the conversations about rwd vs awd, I've learned a lot from everyone

cheers amg63- and happy new year bro
Thank you Peter, and you as well have been extremely helpful and a great friend that has provided myself and the rest of us with a lot of great insight and knowledge on this platform.

Happy New Years to you and your family, my best wishes to you all.
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Amg63-
Thank you Peter, and you as well have been extremely helpful and a great friend that has provided myself and the rest of us with a lot of great insight and knowledge on this platform.

Happy New Years to you and your family, my best wishes to you all.
thank you bro, I always enjoy your posts, happy New Years to you and yours and be safe!
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Old Jan 1, 2017 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Fairbird
it'll smoke your M5 , CLS , E from 60 roll bad .
if to be more specific
1 I have a car not on the lift for year
2 fun
3 potential
4 cheap parts compare to benz after market parts
5 I placed my order for 750 rwhp pack yesterday I'll see it in 3 days
the only down side is tires and interior it's sucks , but when you flooring it you don't car
Good choice. 9 second 93oct dd is $5k-$6k away.

Who you dealing with for mods/tuning?
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Old Jan 1, 2017 | 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Geno51
Problem is you are over analyzing every part of this roll racing crap. Why does it matter if the cls is faster? It doesn't !!!!!!!!
Is this real life? Why does it matter if you got first place in a race? It doesnt!!!!!
Why does it matter if we race 100 times and i win 100 out of 100. It doesnt!!!!!






You are just over analyzing this. go sit in the corner.
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Old Jan 1, 2017 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Amg63-
Do you think its enough of a difference to make it .5-.8S faster from 100km-200km/k or trap any higher in the 1/4 mile?

Also, wouldn't the lighter weight of the E63 be a greater benefit at higher speed than less frontal area?

I read its something like 200 lbs. lighter, that's ALOT.
Actually, I am thinking it could make the difference. Consider this:

height of 2014 E63 56.8"
height of 2014 CLS63 55"
Drag is proportional to velocity squared

So at higher speeds the drag force increases substantially. I don't know what the actual frontal cross sectional areas are for the two models but put side to side the CLS looks more slippery. If you have enough gears what determines your top speed...... the balance between motive force and drag (plus a bit of rolling friction etc)

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Old Jan 1, 2017 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Pumpkinate
Actually, I am thinking it could make the difference. Consider this:

height of 2014 E63 56.8"
height of 2014 CLS63 55"
Drag is proportional to velocity squared

So at higher speeds the drag force increases substantially. I don't know what the actual frontal cross sectional areas are for the two models but put side to side the CLS looks more slippery. If you have enough gears what determines your top speed...... the balance between motive force and drag (plus a bit of rolling friction etc)
interesting, it could be your right and this is giving the CLS the edge.

Do you know the weight difference?

i thought the weight difference was significant, and that the E having that would offset the CLS drag advanage.
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Old Jan 1, 2017 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pumpkinate
Actually, I am thinking it could make the difference. Consider this:

height of 2014 E63 56.8"
height of 2014 CLS63 55"
Drag is proportional to velocity squared

So at higher speeds the drag force increases substantially. I don't know what the actual frontal cross sectional areas are for the two models but put side to side the CLS looks more slippery. If you have enough gears what determines your top speed...... the balance between motive force and drag (plus a bit of rolling friction etc)
The E has the advantage in drag coefficient...
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Old Jan 1, 2017 | 06:16 PM
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It may have a small advantage in drag coefficient but that doesn't prove it has less drag. Drag force is proportional to both drag coefficient and frontal area. The CLS appears to have less frontal area...
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Old Jan 1, 2017 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Pumpkinate
It may have a small advantage in drag coefficient but that doesn't prove it has less drag. Drag force is proportional to both drag coefficient and frontal area. The CLS appears to have less frontal area...
what about the weight difference. Doesn't that also play a big role?
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