Enjoy Your E63 For What It Is
#76
Nobody ever said the M5 isn't more tunable at this point. Though for years that wasn't the case. Flash tuning and JB4+BMS are a recent development ie less that 24 months. Before that tuned M157s mopped the floor. Things always change. The point is complaining without doing something about it is useless. Moving to another car like F10/12 is a great option if you are unhappy. Go right ahead. The have their own reliability concerns that need be addressed, but nothing money and time can't fix. .but stop with the nonsense rehashed posts.
#77
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Looks like this guy ran 10.6@133mph and he's on stock turbos+meth
http://www.dragtimes.com/2015-Merced...ecs-28760.html
still even with the lag, the car was able to do it so someone explain this?
http://www.dragtimes.com/2015-Merced...ecs-28760.html
still even with the lag, the car was able to do it so someone explain this?
#78
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Looks like this guy ran 10.6@133mph and he's on stock turbos+meth
http://www.dragtimes.com/2015-Merced...ecs-28760.html
still even with the lag, the car was able to do it so someone explain this?
http://www.dragtimes.com/2015-Merced...ecs-28760.html
still even with the lag, the car was able to do it so someone explain this?
#79
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Maybe we don't have any "good" data on upgraded turbo cars because they are so fast they open a worm hole into another dimension and people just vanish? Or the launch and torque are so great that matter just instantly vaporizes?
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ecu tune; edok tcu tune; BB intakes; dyno tuned
This is how I'm gunna launch in the E63S from now on thanks to this thread:
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#86
There are more videos of m5 beating the e63.
#88
How about a RWD e63s losing to m6 GC in this Chris Harris video towatds the end. THATS A RWD S MODEL E63!! Which is lighter, more powerful or equal (at the wheels) to m5/m6
https://youtu.be/7-yCupxxErM
https://youtu.be/7-yCupxxErM
#89
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How about a heavier m6 convertable pulling on e63s.. both stock
https://youtu.be/FtY6ZpQOtLs
https://youtu.be/FtY6ZpQOtLs
How about a RWD e63s losing to m6 GC in this Chris Harris video towatds the end. THATS A RWD S MODEL E63!! Which is lighter, more powerful or equal (at the wheels) to m5/m6
https://youtu.be/7-yCupxxErM
https://youtu.be/7-yCupxxErM
Okay -- so ready? Gunna be crazy, might even blow your simple mind.
Out there, in the world that you live in, on the roads that you drive on, people have varying levels of skill behind the wheel. Crazy, right? Okay okay ready? So like, when like, it's kinda maybe possible that the m5 driver wasn't so good at you know... driving... Then perhaps there may be other truths to the m6/e63s video, yeah?
Okay okay, perfect, so here just so we have an understanding. For every video you post I can post one, too! So let's just not post any in an unrelated thread to any of what you're saying...
The message here is simple - We have already acknowledged the cars flaws. I just want people to make an effort to still see through that and enjoy everything else the car has to offer because it would be a shame to not appreciate what a lot of others will only dream or read about.
Every single time someone gets in my car they smile and have fun. They don't even have to be car people and I don't even have to go fast. That's what is important.
Tired of you, troll.
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#91
Okay -- so ready? Gunna be crazy, might even blow your simple mind.
Out there, in the world that you live in, on the roads that you drive on, people have varying levels of skill behind the wheel. Crazy, right? Okay okay ready? So like, when like, it's kinda maybe possible that the m5 driver wasn't so good at you know... driving... Then perhaps there may be other truths to the m6/e63s video, yeah?
Okay okay, perfect, so here just so we have an understanding. For every video you post I can post one, too! So let's just not post any in an unrelated thread to any of what you're saying...
The message here is simple - We have already acknowledged the cars flaws. I just want people to make an effort to still see through that and enjoy everything else the car has to offer because it would be a shame to not appreciate what a lot of others will only dream or read about.
Every single time someone gets in my car they smile and have fun. They don't even have to be car people and I don't even have to go fast. That's what is important.
Tired of you, troll.
Out there, in the world that you live in, on the roads that you drive on, people have varying levels of skill behind the wheel. Crazy, right? Okay okay ready? So like, when like, it's kinda maybe possible that the m5 driver wasn't so good at you know... driving... Then perhaps there may be other truths to the m6/e63s video, yeah?
Okay okay, perfect, so here just so we have an understanding. For every video you post I can post one, too! So let's just not post any in an unrelated thread to any of what you're saying...
The message here is simple - We have already acknowledged the cars flaws. I just want people to make an effort to still see through that and enjoy everything else the car has to offer because it would be a shame to not appreciate what a lot of others will only dream or read about.
Every single time someone gets in my car they smile and have fun. They don't even have to be car people and I don't even have to go fast. That's what is important.
Tired of you, troll.
#92
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^Fantastic. Great. Not the point of the thread.
#93
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How about a RWD e63s losing to m6 GC in this Chris Harris video towatds the end. THATS A RWD S MODEL E63!! Which is lighter, more powerful or equal (at the wheels) to m5/m6
https://youtu.be/7-yCupxxErM
https://youtu.be/7-yCupxxErM
I also think that more development was put into optimizing the M5/M6 acceleration through the M-differential and optimizing gearing than what was put into the W212 E63 S (probably for both the AWD and RWD models).
#94
That RWD E63 S also has almost 90 ft-lbs of torque more than the M6, along with 20mm less tire width putting that power to the ground. So driver skill is really going to be tested trying to beat the M6.
I also think that more development was put into optimizing the M5/M6 acceleration through the M-differential and optimizing gearing than what was put into the W212 E63 S (probably for both the AWD and RWD models).
I also think that more development was put into optimizing the M5/M6 acceleration through the M-differential and optimizing gearing than what was put into the W212 E63 S (probably for both the AWD and RWD models).
#96
That RWD E63 S also has almost 90 ft-lbs of torque more than the M6, along with 20mm less tire width putting that power to the ground. So driver skill is really going to be tested trying to beat the M6.
I also think that more development was put into optimizing the M5/M6 acceleration through the M-differential and optimizing gearing than what was put into the W212 E63 S (probably for both the AWD and RWD models).
I also think that more development was put into optimizing the M5/M6 acceleration through the M-differential and optimizing gearing than what was put into the W212 E63 S (probably for both the AWD and RWD models).
#97
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I want to get to the track again before the weather gets too hot. I want to experiment more with the launch. I feel like Race Start leaves too much on the table.
#98
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OP - are you surprised this took the turn it did?
Also, the reasons you mentioned are why I love my 2013 E550. It's not an AMG but it's also a complete sleeper to most who have no clue what it's packing. Plus maintenance and ELW are WAAAAYYYY cheaper
Also, the reasons you mentioned are why I love my 2013 E550. It's not an AMG but it's also a complete sleeper to most who have no clue what it's packing. Plus maintenance and ELW are WAAAAYYYY cheaper
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As as you can see, like the video against the white m5 it's clear even with the small lag the e63s with awd wins.