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Old 08-10-2017, 03:27 PM
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Doug Demuro became one of us! (E63 Wagon owner)


Check it out. Get ready to watch him make fun of the slow transmission and weird park button.
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2 things:

1) He said he wouldn't buy an late gen E63 wagon in his previous review
2) I remember seeing this car but couldn't remember the mileage.

The mileage is highly important, regardless of the fact he only paid 44K + extended ELW
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Originally Posted by TonyC
2 things:

1) He said he wouldn't buy an late gen E63 wagon in his previous review
2) I remember seeing this car but couldn't remember the mileage.

The mileage is highly important, regardless of the fact he only paid 44K + extended ELW
3) He published this piece based on conjecture:

https://www.autotrader.com/car-news/...-plague-267318
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Wonder if we'll see him at the drag strip.....
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Wonder if we'll see him at the drag strip.....
He took his old W211 wagon to the track and put friends in the 3rd row to wave at people he beat.

It's actually possible that it would happen just because it might get youtube views
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Does anybody agree with him that the pre face lift looks better? I love the 2014+ front, very sporty/aggressive. pre face lift definitely more low key.
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Originally Posted by ajs76
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-62Dr1JgAh4

Check it out. Get ready to watch him make fun of the slow transmission and weird park button.
Doug Demuro SUCKS.


The Pre-facelifts look so dated and old. These cars did not age well..
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Does anybody agree with him that the pre face lift looks better? I love the 2014+ front, very sporty/aggressive. pre face lift definitely more low key.
I agree with him to an extent. Visually, I prefer facelifted sedans and pre-facelift wagons.

That said, I would have preferred a newer wagon for more warranty, but the AWD was a deal-breaker. Unless engaging RWD mode in the new ones becomes simplified to the point it's effortless, I'll probably never buy another E63.
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Doug Demuro SUCKS.


The Pre-facelifts look so dated and old. These cars did not age well..
I prefer the combined headlights to the separate myself, but meh. To each their own.
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The pre-facelift does not look good and is plagued with bugs.
Mercedes invested one Billion Euros into the development of W212 facelift.
So if you can nowadays buy a used W212 and choose facelift or pre-facelift and save perhaps $10-20,000USD, why settle for something that much worse?
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Plagued with bugs. Wtf are u talking about......? Pre facelift has sharp bold edges... Throwback to the w124 500e.... Latter Car is just sad and droopy
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The pre-facelift did not age well atall I don't even see it as the same car as the facelift
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I prefer the cohesive and hard edge design of the pre-facelift. The soft facelifted front was not designed with the 212 body in mind and the result looks like a front-heavy mashup of 2 different cars. The facelifted front was really intended for the larger and softer 213 body.

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I like the facelift because the front actually looks more similar to the w213 than the w211... makes me feel like the face lift w212 will age a bit better in the looks department
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Originally Posted by Jan AMG
Mercedes invested one Billion Euros into the development of W212 facelift.
So if you can nowadays buy a used W212 and choose facelift or pre-facelift and save perhaps $10-20,000USD, why settle for something that much worse?
because many say the 1B euro facelift was a huge waste of moneyhttps://driventowrite.com/2015/12/01/mercedes-eclass-facelift/ ?
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Originally Posted by TonyC
because many say the 1B euro facelift was a huge waste of moneyhttps://driventowrite.com/2015/12/01/mercedes-eclass-facelift/ ?
A design-wise subjective opinion of someone who doesn't understand cars maybe? The article is useless and presents no valuable information.

1 Billion Euros went to the whole W212 and 207 line-up, that's the first thing and second, even "invisible" issues, we should be concerned about when thinking about buying an older W212 were addressed in the fl development, such as divorced cooling in the fl E63. Then you have the new light (LED) system, new driving assistent systems, 4Matic AMG incl. quite a sophisticated diff that led to the new 4Matic+, lighter front suspension (S models) and tons of other things including MUCH higher reliability. Just ask taxi drivers about the pre-fl and fl difference.
I have contemplated getting a beautiful low mileage rwd E63 pre-fl biturbo a year ago but after learning what a letdown the old tech would bring, I passed on the offer.

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