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Old 10-01-2018 | 10:40 PM
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Old 10-01-2018 | 11:11 PM
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Nice price, replicas?
Old 10-01-2018 | 11:37 PM
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Peter, if you are considering purchasing the wheels you linked, contact the seller first. The title reads 19' but the item specs say 18". Make sure you are getting the right diameter.
Personally, I like these better https://www.ebay.com/itm/19-NEW-AMG-...laWREI&vxp=mtr. There is also a set in gloss black on eBay. Let us know what you decide on. Are these for winter?
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8.5 rear would look silly
Old 10-02-2018 | 08:22 AM
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Putting reps on this vehicle is like putting on a clip-on tie with a Brioni tuxedo.
Old 10-02-2018 | 09:47 AM
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Sadly This tux is worth a small fraction of what I paid for it new .. and I don't feel like spending $12,000 (oem twin forged rims and summer tires) for three more years of ownership; but you're right these are like fake eBay badges compared to the real thing

yep these would be for my all seasons and my oems would be for new summer tires.

thanks guys
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Lots of hate for replicas but I've read plenty of threads describing OEM rims bending too.
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Sadly This tux is worth a small fraction of what I paid for it new .. and I don't feel like spending $12,000 (oem twin forged rims and summer tires) for three more years of ownership; but you're right these are like fake eBay badges compared to the real thing

yep these would be for my all seasons and my oems would be for new summer tires.

thanks guys
If you're looking for new wheels, and would like to have a forged wheel but don't want to spend the premium of OE forged, BC Forged has a offering that is similar for about $3300 in any offset for 19x9/9.5".


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Lots of hate for replicas but I've read plenty of threads describing OEM rims bending too.
Not hate, I am suggesting the OP not waste money on a rep when they fail and he has to replace them it will cost more than just going the proper way to begin with.
Comparing a poorly constructed cast wheel without any quality control or TUV approval with a forged OEM wheel with incredible quality control is a no-content scenario.
Jimminez is a vendor for many reputable wheel companies. I would contact him and see what aftermarket higher quality wheel and tire combo could be had for a reasonable rate.
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Fair points; Jimminez do you good quality cast wheels that are twin five spoke?
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Another option is scouring the classifieds on here or fleabay for take-offs. They come up for sale quite often. I would refrain from browsing CraigsList because more often than not those are stolen wheels and I do not want to give those individuals any business or associate myself with them. (Not to say there aren't legitimate sellers there too but far more crap than cred.)
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But if I could get stolen oem forged rims for a good deal ......
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Fair points; Jimminez do you good quality cast wheels that are twin five spoke?
I am not a vendor here on this site so can only answer as a fellow enthusiast who has struggled to find wheels that fit.

The calipers and dust shield up front make the selection for wheels that fit very difficult, plus the added rear wheel specs, the combination isn't popular.

I have BBS CH-R 19x8.5" ET32 square for winter. You could run that up front and run a 19x9.5" ET45 CH-R in the rear. I'd say that would be my go to if these are your all season set. I ran same widths with my LM-R and liked how meaty the front was in line with rear.

I was reluctant to run a 8.5" up front but once install, I like the look a lot.

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Dust shields are easily removed and without them being installed they dissipate heat better. I have done this on many vehicles without issue but the more difficult aspect of the aftermarket wheel hunt on this vehicle is the fitment specs. Outside of that I would much rather spend time finding a quality aftermarket wheel than install a replica wheel that may fail while driving and or be hazard to occupants or others but your car, your cash, your call.
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Dust shields are easily removed and without them being installed they dissipate heat better. I have done this on many vehicles without issue but the more difficult aspect of the aftermarket wheel hunt on this vehicle is the fitment specs. Outside of that I would much rather spend time finding a quality aftermarket wheel than install a replica wheel that may fail while driving and or be hazard to occupants or others but your car, your cash, your call.
Totally agree. Point about shields was most don't want to tinker with removing or trimming and that most manufactures when they determine fit is based on schematics of the caliper in relation to the spokes and barrel but not the inner barrel where some done have flat barrels and don't clear the shield. LM-R didn't without a spacer and Volks have no room for weights in line with shield.
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Originally Posted by Jimminez
Totally agree. Point about shields was most don't want to tinker with removing or trimming and that most manufactures when they determine fit is based on schematics of the caliper in relation to the spokes and barrel but not the inner barrel where some done have flat barrels and don't clear the shield. LM-R didn't without a spacer and Volks have no room for weights in line with shield.
In the past I've had issues with backspacing and caliper clearance with 3pc wheels which is why I've had to go custom because some just didn't have the offsets or specs to fit. I've found with Audi and some BMW it's so much easier because the geometry is similar to so many other vehicles in their fleet that there are just far more options but on certain niche vehicles or marques it becomes quite a hassle... when it finally works out... it looks awesome and unique.
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Dust shields are easily removed and without them being installed they dissipate heat better. I have done this on many vehicles without issue but the more difficult aspect of the aftermarket wheel hunt on this vehicle is the fitment specs. Outside of that I would much rather spend time finding a quality aftermarket wheel than install a replica wheel that may fail while driving and or be hazard to occupants or others but your car, your cash, your call.
Sorry if this sounds dumb, but I am struggling to understand how the dust shields interfere? Is the back of the caliper not the farest point from the center of the hub?
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In the past I've had issues with backspacing and caliper clearance with 3pc wheels which is why I've had to go custom because some just didn't have the offsets or specs to fit. I've found with Audi and some BMW it's so much easier because the geometry is similar to so many other vehicles in their fleet that there are just far more options but on certain niche vehicles or marques it becomes quite a hassle... when it finally works out... it looks awesome and unique.
Agree here 100% Audi were pretty easy to find a nice selection of off the shelf stuff. However my last Audi had built to spec Rotiforms. Perfect fit, style and quality. Best combo after about 5 sets. Guess that's why alot of AMG stuff has HRE's
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Sorry if this sounds dumb, but I am struggling to understand how the dust shields interfere? Is the back of the caliper not the farest point from the center of the hub?
The shield radiates from hub further out than the caliper. It can be trimmed easily or removed. Not a big issue. Just something to consider. The caliper is really the limiting factor, more so for ones with ceramics.

See pic below and how the shield fills to the inner barrel more so than the caliper.



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Old 10-03-2018 | 10:47 PM
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The shield radiates from hub further out than the caliper. It can be trimmed easily or removed. Not a big issue. Just something to consider. The caliper is really the limiting factor, more so for ones with ceramics.

See pic below and how the shield fills to the inner barrel more so than the caliper.



Ahhhh yes, I do see it now. Thanks for the clarification
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Old 10-04-2018 | 09:46 AM
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Agree here 100% Audi were pretty easy to find a nice selection of off the shelf stuff. However my last Audi had built to spec Rotiforms. Perfect fit, style and quality. Best combo after about 5 sets. Guess that's why alot of AMG stuff has HRE's
I know Brian since the days of Avalon & Co. Great guy and puts out a great product even after the company was sold which is a tough feat to accomplish.
Agree on why you see many MB with HRE or other custom wheels. To have it land spot on it there really isn't an off the shelf over the counter fitment without spacers or several modifications.

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