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Old Apr 18, 2019 | 05:07 PM
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Hmmm, I wasn't aware they made a bunch of money. I mean obviously they are gonna get paid for work they do. Maybe you are right though since as you all know, they dropped a spanking new M157 motor in my car 6 months ago! I was told the retail value of the motor just in the crate was $57k !!

On topic with the thread, this was actually done toward the end of the factory warranty. But my SA told me that they would have done the same thing for my ELW if that had been the case.

And Peter is correct. They did have to get approval from a factory rep for the new motor. But it was fast and painless.
to replace an engine -- how many hours of labor do you think they spent on your car? Plus I imagine they could bill Mercedes as a higher level
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 03:42 AM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
you can watch tasos's videos to get a good idea what to look at

search it, ive posted it before
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
you can watch tasos's videos to get a good idea what to look at

search it, ive posted it before
Tasos is a very good mechanic, love watching his videos
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 04:01 AM
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WAAAAAAAAY more than $20k my friend! Retail is $57k in the crate, not installed.
Lol I was talking about buying a used engine. 57k is more than I paid for the car!
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
that could be so many things from battery to motor mounts to fuel pump to coil packs and plugs and less likely timing chain with no CEL's
i got the car back today, not even an hour after I left the dealer the car went into limp mode🤦*♂️. Restarted the car and everything went back to normal. The rough idle improved but it still has a rough idle sometimes. Engine mounts were changed twice within 10,000 miles. I’m thinking something is causing the engine mounts to go bad. I’m a very very aggressive driver btw, so maybe that has something to do with it.
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 03:42 PM
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i got the car back today, not even an hour after I left the dealer the car went into limp mode🤦*♂️. Restarted the car and everything went back to normal. The rough idle improved but it still has a rough idle sometimes. Engine mounts were changed twice within 10,000 miles. I’m thinking something is causing the engine mounts to go bad. I’m a very very aggressive driver btw, so maybe that has something to do with it.
soooooo...... did you drop it back off with them??

i would argue that being an aggressive driver of an amg product should have nothing to do with it.... meaning limp mode.

engine mounts is all about aggressive driving but rough idle doesn't necessarily mean bad mounts

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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 05:07 PM
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Engine mounts shouldnt fail that quick even if you drive it very hard, now if your car was modified performance wise then i could see it happening but still not likely at that interval. Even if an engine mount was to fail prematurely due to pushing the car excessivle, one side should be the first to go not both.
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
soooooo...... did you drop it back off with them??

i would argue that being an aggressive driver of an amg product should have nothing to do with it.... meaning limp mode.

engine mounts is all about aggressive driving but rough idle doesn't necessarily mean bad mounts

im going to drop it off tmrw, I need a break from the loaner e300, that car drives me insane. I took the car to an independent mechanic, they don’t know what’s causing the rough idle, but they found an oil leak from the timing cover.
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Timur4593
Engine mounts shouldnt fail that quick even if you drive it very hard, now if your car was modified performance wise then i could see it happening but still not likely at that interval. Even if an engine mount was to fail prematurely due to pushing the car excessivle, one side should be the first to go not both.
The car is bone stock, I will take it back tomorrow for a diagnosis
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 09:25 PM
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The car is bone stock, I will take it back tomorrow for a diagnosis
Also the “longer than usual crank” is one of the symptoms of streched timing chain. It depends how many miles you have but since you noted that you drive it pretty hard it could have streched a little earlier maybe. Since its the 2012 model year theres a high chance that it doesnt have the updated chain.
Wish you luck man.

Updated chain.
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 09:41 PM
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It will be nice to hear if the dealer was telling stories. Keep us posted on what the indy found.
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Timur4593
Also the “longer than usual crank” is one of the symptoms of streched timing chain. It depends how many miles you have but since you noted that you drive it pretty hard it could have streched a little earlier maybe. Since its the 2012 model year theres a high chance that it doesnt have the updated chain.
Wish you luck man.



Updated chain.
appreciate it man, i checked rn, and it has the updated timing chain. It has 98k miles.
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 10:05 PM
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It will be nice to hear if the dealer was telling stories. Keep us posted on what the indy found.
The Indy didn’t do the compression test yet, but he did find an oil leak.
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Old Apr 27, 2019 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
soooooo...... did you drop it back off with them??

i would argue that being an aggressive driver of an amg product should have nothing to do with it.... meaning limp mode.

engine mounts is all about aggressive driving but rough idle doesn't necessarily mean bad mounts
the car still shakes in park and neutral. It doesn’t shake in drive. Have you felt your car slightly shaking while in park or neutral. Dealer says it’s normal but I’m not convinced
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Old Apr 27, 2019 | 12:43 PM
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FWIW our 2015 e63s does not shake in neutral or park.

What were the compression numbers that the dealership noted when they said you were down on compression?
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Old Apr 27, 2019 | 03:16 PM
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And what did the independent outfit find???
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Old Apr 27, 2019 | 09:46 PM
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the car still shakes in park and neutral. It doesn’t shake in drive. Have you felt your car slightly shaking while in park or neutral. Dealer says it’s normal but I’m not convinced
2014 with 30,000 miles and no shaking in drive or park or neutral


the only time I ever felt the steering shake on cold start was when it was sitting in 15 F for hours ....
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Old May 13, 2019 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by timm206
Also the “longer than usual crank” is one of the symptoms of streched timing chain. It depends how many miles you have but since you noted that you drive it pretty hard it could have streched a little earlier maybe. Since its the 2012 model year theres a high chance that it doesnt have the updated chain.
Wish you luck man.

Updated chain.
great info. do you have a photo of the old type chain to compare?
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Old May 13, 2019 | 08:20 PM
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great info. do you have a photo of the old type chain to compare?

go to the 2:30 mark...
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Old May 14, 2019 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
to replace an engine -- how many hours of labor do you think they spent on your car? Plus I imagine they could bill Mercedes as a higher level
30ish labor hours max. Mercedes actually pays them less per labor hour and pays less parts margin on all warranty work. They need approval for engines and transmission(and sometimes other components) replacements due to cost or frequent misdiagnosis
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Old May 14, 2019 | 09:55 AM
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FWIW, my 2016 M157 has the new style chain from factory.
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Old May 16, 2019 | 02:21 PM
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2014 E63 Wagon... 70k and zero shake (or any other issues to be honest... yet?).
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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Classic777
the car still shakes in park and neutral. It doesn’t shake in drive. Have you felt your car slightly shaking while in park or neutral. Dealer says it’s normal but I’m not convinced
Did you solve this issue? I’m experiencing the same with my cls 63, sometimes it cranks longer to start and it shakes a little in park and neutral.
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Old Aug 13, 2019 | 06:59 AM
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Did you solve this issue? I’m experiencing the same with my cls 63, sometimes it cranks longer to start and it shakes a little in park and neutral.
What year is your CLS & how many miles does it have?
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Old Aug 13, 2019 | 07:20 AM
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What year is your CLS & how many miles does it have?
2011, 63 000 KM (39 K miles?)
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