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Old Nov 30, 2019 | 01:26 PM
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Looking at Purchasing this E63 Wagon

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https://www.epicautosalestx.com/inve...B-E-63-AMG-S-/



I am located Houston texas and have been looking for one of these for a LONG time.
Does this one look like a good deal?
Anything I should know?
It has a clean Autocheck but was sold at an auction in MAY.
Ant input is greatly appreciated!
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Old Nov 30, 2019 | 02:35 PM
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Extremely beautiful Estate is my all time favourite , i notice some swirls but thats nature of black color , good luck
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Old Nov 30, 2019 | 02:52 PM
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rear bodywork made to look "brabus-like", mismatching tires (bridgestone potenza, continental), normal looking high wear places, blacked out.
just make sure there's been no drivetrain mods or excess wear on the engine/trans mounts.
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Old Nov 30, 2019 | 03:40 PM
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Wow! joonesthesia You have a good eye! I did not notice any of these things. What would a "good" deal be on this car price wise?
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Old Nov 30, 2019 | 05:01 PM
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Off the bat. MB will NOT sell you a Extended Warranty for a car sold at auction. I learned that the hard way... not that I would have gone for that anyway, but, I do know that most people looking into an AMG will ONLY own one under warranty.
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Old Nov 30, 2019 | 05:51 PM
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It’s got the RENNtech trunk spoiler, diffuser and exhaust tips which mean the previous owner did some kind of modification to it. I would contact RENNtech and provide them with the VIN to see if there was any performance mods like ECU or Turbo upgrade to it.

The paint does look like it needs paint correction and full detail.

If you like modding your car, it’s not a bad deal given it’s a wagon, but I would look at the VMI to see the history and maybe shed some light on why it was sold at an auction.

Warranty is a must.

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Old Nov 30, 2019 | 06:39 PM
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been out of the market since buying my wagon. ignorance is bliss, don't care to know depreciation
learned something new! so that's a renntech exhaust. It doesn't have the other renntech badges so it's likely a esthetic + maybe a mild tune.
The tires, maybe the dealer put them on to sell as the previous ones were bald and not legal to sell the car with them.
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Old Nov 30, 2019 | 09:02 PM
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Does this listing have a VIN? Does anyone else see "E350" on the liftgate? Am I missing the "AMG" badge? It didn't come up for me.
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Old Nov 30, 2019 | 10:27 PM
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Looks rough to me. Why are the front brake calipers black?
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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 12:54 AM
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Maybe it needs a complete detail but a lot of the vehicle interior and exterior appears to have been treated a bit rough. Divots in the rear seat leather might imply child seats, and anyone with young kids knows how much they add years to a car. What is that box is the rear, stock or aftermarket sub? MB probably passed on buying this for their inventory for a reason.

I’d go the CPO route. MBUSA has a newer 2016 with less miles going for $64k. You could negotiate it down to $62k or less with very little effort. That might be outside your budget a smidge but financing allows “future you” to deal with that decision. Small price to pay for a better vehicle and some additional assurances that you’re getting a car that meets a fairly high bar. Sure MB can CPO any car they want, but generally speaking it’s in their best interests to only CPO a vehicle that won’t be a headache both you and them.

If it were me I would want to see engine pics and VMI to see if it’s been in for lots of repairs. Could root out a lemon.

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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 07:13 AM
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Subwoofer box - if done right - OK. If hacked into electric system by beginner - urgh....
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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 09:17 AM
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Art0Bjekt, please post the VIN. Thanks.
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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 09:22 AM
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Price is too high IMO.
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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 09:24 AM
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Does this listing have a VIN? Does anyone else see "E350" on the liftgate? Am I missing the "AMG" badge? It didn't come up for me.
goodness, you're right. Unless previous owner(s) were trying to be ironic, the rear hatch shows "E350" and "4Matic". The amg models say "E63" and "sAMG" respectively.
Maybe it got rear ended and it was repaired with the aftermarket rear + e350 rear hatch.
OP - keep looking. My opinion is that this one has too much unknown/unexplainable/undisclosed history
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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 11:37 AM
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If you are seriously considering it, have Matt with Legacy Motorsports in Houston do a pre-purchase inspection. He services a lot of the AMG guys (including my own E63 wagon) and though I got lucky with mine, I'll never not done again. This one has been listed since July also, FWIW. PM if you need more information.
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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 04:47 PM
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If I'm not mistaken this car had the Weistec package on it along with some Renntech goodies. If this the car I'm thinking about it was problematic for the previous owner. I too would suggest letting Matt at Legacy do a Pre purchase inspection.
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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 05:42 PM
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Just occurred to me we might be sinking a fellow MBWorld member’s sale.

OP - Car is in impeccable shape and an incredible bargain. The E350 stealth mode badge should also make your insurance half the price.
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Old Dec 2, 2019 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by NoVAe63s
Just occurred to me we might be sinking a fellow MBWorld member’s sale.

OP - Car is in impeccable shape and an incredible bargain. The E350 stealth mode badge should also make your insurance half the price.
Insurance goes by VIN, not badges. =]

I think people have pointed out a ton of valid red flags: mods, mismatched tires, wrong color calipers, etc. The best case scenario is that the previous owner(s) didn't take great care in modding the car and the worst case is that the car has been in accident(s) and has been patched up.

OP: I would be very careful and certainly won't pull the trigger without a thorough PPI by a well-known shop close to that dealer. And even before that, get the VIN so you can look up the known history (or ask them for a carfax if they're willing).
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Old Dec 2, 2019 | 08:36 PM
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Sorry for the slow response,
Thank you for all the input. I have decided to pass on the car. I am looking for a more stock wagon that I can get a warranty on.
You guys are wealth of knowledge! The search continues.

Here is the VIN for fun.

WDDHH7GB8FB108543

If yall see a good wagon under 60k Let me know! I will look at the one mentioned.



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Old Dec 2, 2019 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Art0Bjekt
Sorry for the slow response,
Thank you for all the input. I have decided to pass on the car. I am looking for a more stock wagon that I can get a warranty on.
You guys are wealth of knowledge! The search continues.

Here is the VIN for fun.

WDDHH7GB8FB108543

If yall see a good wagon under 60k Let me know! I will look at the one mentioned.
I think you made a good call. I found the previous listing and combined with the mismatched parts, I think this car has been beat up and not properly taken care of.

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(from previous listing on 2018-02-17): RENNtech R3 PKG!!! NAVIGATION... PANORAMA... 4MATIC... 19'' AMG BLACK WHEELS... CARBON FIBER PKG... DISTRONIC PLUS W/STEERING ASSIST... DRIVER ASSISTANCE PKG... EXTERIOR CARBON TRIM PKG...PRE-SAFE PLUS... ACTIVE BLIND SPOT ASSIST... ACTIVE LANE KEEPING ASSIST, AND BAS PLUS W/CROSS-TRAFFIC ASSIST............................................ ..................................... IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER PLEASE NOTE AS FOLLOWS: AMAZING OPPORTUNITY STRICTLY SOLD AS IS WITHOUT WARRANTY. This 2015 E63 was pre-traded here while our VIP clients await the arrival of their new 2018 E63s Wagon special order. This Benz has been masterfully enhanced by RENNtech Performance the list is as follows: RENNtech R3 pkg: ECU Upgrade, Diverter Valve, Air Filters, Sport Mufflers, CF Airbox and Turbocharger Upgrade. Base Price $27,680.00 plus tax and installation. Also includes Rear Spoiler, Rear Diffuser, Top Spoiler. Over $40,000.00 in all the right adds!............................ *Your additional costs are sales tax, tag and title fees for the state in which the vehicle will be registered, any dealer-installed options (if applicable) and a $299 dealer processing fee (not required by law). Prices are subject to change, and prior sales are excluded from these offers. While every reasonable effort is made to ensure the accuracy of this information, we are not responsible for any errors or omissions contained on these pages. Please verify any information in question with the dealer.
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Old Dec 2, 2019 | 09:19 PM
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Driver's seat worn badly for a 2015. This car looks like a rebuild. wrong tailgate. Aftermarket wheels. I would run away and find a car on a Mercedes dealer lot or at least from another Lux brand dealer.

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Old Dec 2, 2019 | 09:53 PM
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The 2016 one on mbusa is perfect- but don't want to spend quite that much.
While we are at it, what about this one?
https://www.covertcadillac.com/Vehic...-TX/3528312143

They said bumper to bumper warranty would be 7.5K - 3 years 40000 miles
If no warranty - I wonder if I would be over my head.



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Originally Posted by Art0Bjekt
The 2016 one on mbusa is perfect- but don't want to spend quite that much.
While we are at it, what about this one?
https://www.covertcadillac.com/Vehic...-TX/3528312143

They said bumper to bumper warranty would be 7.5K - 3 years 40000 miles
If no warranty - I wonder if I would be over my head.
Looks very nice, Good interior, and one owner.
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Old Dec 3, 2019 | 04:33 PM
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It’s going to be a 3rd party warranty so read that thing beginning to end and then upside down while doing a handstand in front of a mirror.

Personally speaking I’m never comfortable buying a make from a non-make dealership. I could be talking out of my rectum but I don’t think Caddy techs know how to properly inspect and repair/maintain an MB if this were a trade in. If they bought at auction then there’s a whole other list of questions there.

I’d contact the MBUSA dealer and make them an offer for $60k. You never know, if you finance through MB maybe they’ll bite. And if it’s a car you love, don’t squabble over a few thousand bucks, better to get what you want and scrimp on other things for a while versus forever regretting letting “the one” get away.
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https://www.mbusa.com/en/cpo/invento...,E450S4,E63S4S

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