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Old Dec 14, 2020 | 07:56 PM
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EC E30 Tune ?

Hi everyone, I just purchased a E30 tune from Jerry and wanted to get your opinions from those who have the tune how well did your car take the tune. Did you have to data log it and dial it in. What gauge do you guys use to keep an eye on the %'s. As we speak I have a Stage 2 tune, catless dp's and soon getting my black boost intake. My car is a 2013 E63. Anything I need to do to play it safe or safe as possible.
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Hi everyone, I just purchased a E30 tune from Jerry and wanted to get your opinions from those who have the tune how well did your car take the tune. Did you have to data log it and dial it in. What gauge do you guys use to keep an eye on the %'s. As we speak I have a Stage 2 tune, catless dp's and soon getting my black boost intake. My car is a 2013 E63. Anything I need to do to play it safe or safe as possible.
install BlackBoost intakes first before the tune, and see how much difference it makes on the top end.
I’d be interested in knowing about the tune. I was considering E30-40 tune from him as well.
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Old Dec 16, 2020 | 04:31 AM
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Hi everyone, I just purchased a E30 tune from Jerry and wanted to get your opinions from those who have the tune how well did your car take the tune. Did you have to data log it and dial it in. What gauge do you guys use to keep an eye on the %'s. As we speak I have a Stage 2 tune, catless dp's and soon getting my black boost intake. My car is a 2013 E63. Anything I need to do to play it safe or safe as possible.
I just got their flex fuel tune loaded on the car 2 days ago so I'll share what I can. I'm assuming you'll probably be getting the same. You can run different amounts of ethanol (under E60) and the car will adapt to it. For this reason, I haven't gotten an ethanol content analyzer yet. Spool performance sells one which is plug and play for our cars, I'll be getting that. Will be better than relying only on calculations for E%.

The car responded to it very well. From stock to pump gas tune was a big improvement. After switching to E, I noticed another significant improvement. I can only comment on the difference subjectively but having done it so recently the feeling of that first pull is still fresh in mind. I can send acceleration videos I if you want. I recorded stock, pump tune, E50, might be helpful.

Datalogging would get you the most out of it if that's what you're really after otherwise you don't have to. To play it safe:
1. Make sure to calculate your E% always. Content analyzer will confirm your calculations. Use the ethanol mixer app.
2. Don't exceed E60
3. If you change E% then take it easy for 10ish miles to let the fuel mix and allow the car to adapt

I have a BB intake on the way also. Was hoping to have them on before the tune but I was slow on the trigger

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Old Dec 16, 2020 | 09:41 AM
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I just got their flex fuel tune loaded on the car 2 days ago so I'll share what I can. I'm assuming you'll probably be getting the same. You can run different amounts of ethanol (under E60) and the car will adapt to it. For this reason, I haven't gotten an ethanol content analyzer yet. Spool performance sells one which is plug and play for our cars, I'll be getting that. Will be better than relying only on calculations for E%.

The car responded to it very well. From stock to pump gas tune was a big improvement. After switching to E, I noticed another significant improvement. I can only comment on the difference subjectively but having done it so recently the feeling of that first pull is still fresh in mind. I can send acceleration videos I if you want. I recorded stock, pump tune, E50, might be helpful.

Datalogging would get you the most out of it if that's what you're really after otherwise you don't have to. To play it safe:
1. Make sure to calculate your E% always. Content analyzer will confirm your calculations. Use the ethanol mixer app.
2. Don't exceed E60
3. If you change E% then take it easy for 10ish miles to let the fuel mix and allow the car to adapt

I have a BB intake on the way also. Was hoping to have them on before the tune but I was slow on the trigger

thank you for your input, if you have the videos for sure send them my way. I think I'm more so afraid if I get the mixture wrong ill blow it up. I didnt know it had such a big varience up to 60% and as long as you take it easy for a few minutes and let it adapt ill be fine. I was gonna buy a E gauge from innovative i think is the companies name. Im gonna look up spool performance as well. My first few months of having tunes for 91 octane was terrible i had soo many miss fires and so many revisions of tunes it put me off on ever getting a tune. I got my fedex tracking from Jose for the black boost intake he's been great keeping me posted. My goal is to get about 620ish whp. I think once im there and if i can run a 126 e.t in the 1/4 ill be happy with that.
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Old Dec 16, 2020 | 11:19 AM
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I have had zero problems with my E40 mates with my edok tcu tune
EC E40?
any draggy results?
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Old Dec 16, 2020 | 01:53 PM
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thank you for your input, if you have the videos for sure send them my way. I think I'm more so afraid if I get the mixture wrong ill blow it up. I didnt know it had such a big varience up to 60% and as long as you take it easy for a few minutes and let it adapt ill be fine. I was gonna buy a E gauge from innovative i think is the companies name. Im gonna look up spool performance as well. My first few months of having tunes for 91 octane was terrible i had soo many miss fires and so many revisions of tunes it put me off on ever getting a tune. I got my fedex tracking from Jose for the black boost intake he's been great keeping me posted. My goal is to get about 620ish whp. I think once im there and if i can run a 126 e.t in the 1/4 ill be happy with that.
Your bolt ons and E should get you there, or better. Just confirm if with Eurocharged that its a flex fuel tune. If not, then get the flex fuel tune. I haven't noticed any issues with the tune yet. Feels pretty stock until I floor it lol.
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Old Dec 16, 2020 | 02:33 PM
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EC E40?
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this was with full tank and spare and I let up at 125 cuz I got skerrd ... also I should have started at 40's instead of at 55mph
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Old Dec 16, 2020 | 02:35 PM
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Slope on this same stretch is 1%, so it's valid I was having a satellite issue with dragy. Also this was on all seasons and I kept spinning to second gear lol .. I'm prolly good for a 2.8 with 1 ft and 7.5 second 60-130
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Originally Posted by karpetcm
thank you for your input, if you have the videos for sure send them my way. I think I'm more so afraid if I get the mixture wrong ill blow it up. I didnt know it had such a big varience up to 60% and as long as you take it easy for a few minutes and let it adapt ill be fine. I was gonna buy a E gauge from innovative i think is the companies name. Im gonna look up spool performance as well. My first few months of having tunes for 91 octane was terrible i had soo many miss fires and so many revisions of tunes it put me off on ever getting a tune. I got my fedex tracking from Jose for the black boost intake he's been great keeping me posted. My goal is to get about 620ish whp. I think once im there and if i can run a 126 e.t in the 1/4 ill be happy with that.
Hey there thank you for the kind words, I try mu best and keep stock but due to the great results and covid it sure has slowed us down, I know BB will definitely help you get there let me know if I can help or assist in any future purchases.
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Old Dec 16, 2020 | 04:14 PM
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I talked to someone at EC i guess they have a e30,e47 and e60 tune. He told me its easier to mix with e47 and get it close to the ratio. I just emailed jerry and see if i can get a e47 tune and see what he says.On my BB intake its scheduled for delivery on the 22nd of this month so ill take some pics before and after install of engine bay and post my impressions of it here with some vids if its any louder.

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Jerry just got back to me. Ince he sees my logs on the e30 tune he can adjust up to e47 or e60 based on the logs. Now i gotta buy a gauge to keep track of the e%.
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I talked to someone at EC i guess they have a e30,e47 and e60 tune. He told me its easier to mix with e47 and get it close to the ratio. I just emailed jerry and see if i can get a e47 tune and see what he says.On my BB intake its scheduled for delivery on the 22nd of this month so ill take some pics before and after install of engine bay and post my impressions of it here with some vids if its any louder.
e50 is stupid easy ... 50:50 mix
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
e50 is stupid easy ... 50:50 mix
That's the intention of the e47 tune (e85 + e10)/2, where e10 is normal pump gas.

However, a 50:50 mix only gets you there if pump "e85" actually has 85% ethanol content. The speedway by me has e75, and many have reported wide variations. It's best to check content each fill-up.

The different EC tunes mentioned (e30, e47, e60) in this thread as able to be obtained imply that any particular tune will not actually adapt to the different ethanol content. Otherwise, why wouldn't all the variations just be on one tune? Check your content and ensure it always matches with the expected content of the tune.
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Can you explain what is in the bottle? or is that how you put in E85?
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Can you explain what is in the bottle? or is that how you put in E85?
i’m pretty sure that’s for measuring ethanol content. You mix E85 with water I think and it gives you the E amount.
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i’m pretty sure that’s for measuring ethanol content. You mix E85 with water I think and it gives you the E amount.
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So with this tune you can drive on 93 but can’t go WOT without having the Ethanol mix in the tank
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So with this tune you can drive on 93 but can’t go WOT without having the Ethanol mix in the tank
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Old Jan 22, 2021 | 05:38 PM
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Why can't you go WOT with just 93 in the tank?

I asked Jerry when I saw this and he said my E60 Flex Tune can go WOT with just 93. The car will adjust the timing.

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Why can't you go WOT with just 93 in the tank?

I asked Jerry when I saw this and he said my E60 Flex Tune can go WOT with just 93. The car will adjust the timing.

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im kinda confused so is my e30 tune a flex fuel tune or a e30 tune only? I asked Jerry a out flex fuel but i never got a answer
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im kinda confused so is my e30 tune a flex fuel tune or a e30 tune only? I asked Jerry a out flex fuel but i never got a answer
I don't know. Yours maybe different.

I was told mine can run smoothly and go WOT on anything from 91 octane up to E60. Anything above E60 and I will need new fuel pumps.

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