2012 merc amg

Has anybody thought about ordering the car in Brilliant Blue, nice looking color, I'm not sure if it's still even available though because on the ordering guide effective 04/07/17 it says that color is not available now on the E series wagon, so not really sure if they are talking about the E400 or the E63 AMG or both, if not I'll go with the Cardinal Red. Definitely, going with the Nut brown interior and probably the Magnolia wood as I don't like the natural and the burl is not available now on the AMG's anymore. Getting the Acoustic glass package, the amg performance exhaust and the AMG advanced lighting package with LED's. Also the Carbon fiber engine cover and the carbon fiber mirror covers and the active multi contour seats, looks like they don't come automatic with the Premium 03 package which is what I'm getting which includes Distronic Plus. Also the wheel locks with the Forged Silver Wheels. Think I've got it all covered. No pricing available yet, but can't be too much more than the 2016's I would not think. I'd say with all the options I've got it'll bring the sticker to over 120 grand, the dealer already agreed to take 5 percent off sticker which I don't think I can do much better than that on a order. I just hope they can give me 45 grand on my 2012 with 50K miles on it in excellent condition, I don't feel like selling it myself. All said and done I'll be looking at least 65 to 70 grand cash plus tax on that. Big investment but my car is getting to be 5 years old now and you only go around once is how I look at it.

nikon

Very nice! I see you are interested in the quieter windows. Have you noticed a difference between the two?

2012 merc amg

Yes, the acoustic package should make the car more quiet. I have not compared them personally, but it is not that expensive of a option and worth it in my opinion. All the other stuff though really adds up, I was playing with some numbers tonight based on the UK pricing of the Sedan car and from the looks of it factoring the exchange rate of the Pound to the US dollar I'll be looking at a sticker on this car approaching 130 grand, it is pretty heavily loaded with options though, looks like the base price of the car based on the Euro number is going to go from around 105 grand for the wagon for the 2016 model to 111 grand for the new upcoming 2018. I don't expect to have this car until around August or September if I'm lucky and I don't get a delay because a certain option is not available or production just gets delayed.

Edited this as I think I was a little steep on my numbers, I'm thinking the more I researched with the options I have that the price may be more like high 120's I hope. The car is going to have the Premium 03 package and that is the big question exactly how much that adds to the base price, the UK are optioned a little differently. I think the Magnolia wood is only going to add around 2 grand, that is a good option in my opinion as they don't offer the burl anymore in the AMG's like my 2012 has. I'm not crazy about the carbon fiber interior trim, I like wood and don't like the natural wood which is standard, to me it looks anything but natural.

Chappy

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2012 merc amg

Anyone else thinking of pulling the trigger on a new AMG Wagon? Or are y'all being safe and waiting for the pricing before ordering? I dunno if I'm going to end up paying more getting in this early because of the whole edition 1 thing or what that is even all about, I'm just glad they are still making the E63 Wagons and selling them in the States.

Chappy

The trade value on your 2012 with 50k miles is probably mid-30s. I "hope" that's not the case for you - just trying to work with a worst-case scenario.

Either way, there probably won't be much if any discounts to be had for the 2018 models.

Honestly, the 2014-2016 E63S wagons look very similar in appearance and with just a .1 second advantage in 0-60, I'm not feeling compelled to have the latest/greatest. If my car was pre-facelift perhaps I'd feel different. Also, the MBUSA press release is showing the top speed for the S213 AMG as 180mph vs 186mph for the S212 AMG. Why the difference?

That said, I'm very excited for you and your quest for the new kombi!!!!

2012 merc amg

They have already offered 5 percent off sticker and I think I can get 7 percent. Trade in, I'm pushing for 45 grand, I know the car could retail for 55 grand.

Chappy

Awesome - please let us know how it all works out.

Vipershade

The 180 mph on the MBUSA press release, looks accurate. The AMG site lists it at 300 kph (186 mph) for the sedan and 290 kph (180 mph) for the estate. Wow, good catch. I'll bounce that around and see if I can find out why.

2012 merc amg

Oh well the 6 miles per hour less is not gonna make any difference to me, it's not like I'll ever see those speeds anyhow.

2012 merc amg

Well was at the dealer today to get my 2012 appraised. Slightly under 40K, no can do. I'll sell it myself, no rush. Gonna list it at $56 grand including the MB extended warrantee that's good until Jan 2019. Without the warrantee $54 grand. The car has all the service records and was maintained to perfection. I also test drove a E400 wagon today. Does not even compare to my AMG so keeping my order in for the Red AMG, it'll be worth the wait. The dealer told me I can expect the car in by August or September, I'm just hoping it does not go into next December or something like that, means I'll be without a AMG for a long time. When my 2012 sells I'll drive my truck until the new one comes in, modified 5.3 go fast Chevy Colorado so life won't be all that bad, nothing like the AMG though, gonna miss this car.

2012 merc amg

I wonder too if that 180 mph speed limiter on the Wagon is just for Europe, this is a European press release as you can tell as they call the Wagon the Estate. Be interesting to see what the spec for the USA model is, anyhow if somebody really wanted to go over 200 mph, there is always a tune. I would not do that as I like my cars stock.

Chappy

Here is the U.S. Press release:

https://www.mbusa.com/vcm/MB/Digital...63_S_Wagon.pdf

Car is going to be a beast - would like to own one too!

Vipershade

Yeah, I find the AMG site to be pretty accurate for the U.S. (metrics conversions not withstanding). If anything, the U.S. specs would be more restrictive than the numbers posted on the AMG site.

Vipershade

In my stand against the currently available interiors, I think I am going to wait and see what this beast actually is: http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...fender-flares/

...maybe by then, the designo interiors will be available.

2012 merc amg

Wow interesting article, it seems the horsepower wars are on, MB does not like to be beaten by anyone and now with the demon approaching 1000 hp, maybe there will be a super souped up edition of the new E63's it looks like, interesting. I'm happy with the 600 hp, that is quite enough for me.

nikon

Are you content with the 7% dealer discount? Or could have they go down lower? What did your car come out to cost?

E55 KEV

2018 Mercedes-AMG E63 Estate Edition 1 comes with record-breaking price of 139,980 euros

http://www.4wheelsnews.com/auto/2018...ice-37329.html

"In time for the official market launch of the new generation E63 and E63 S models, pricing for Mercedes-AMG’s E63 Estate Edition 1 has also been announced in Germany. Let’s just say the equivalent price in US dollars comes at approximately $152,575."

2012 merc amg

That release is very confusing but after going through it and figuring it out, it all makes sense. #1. That is for a very specific limited edition one and there's quite a few extras that go along with that, the car I have on order is not that limited edition (which I believe the European dealers will be stocking) in the USA the wagon is special order only. Being that my car is not the limited edition it should be less and just the base price plus the specific options I've tacked onto the order. #2. This includes a VAT European tax of 19 percent, if the car were $152, 575.00 for the limited edition which we do not even know if this particular model is even available in the USA you can deduct 19 percent from that large number which is approx $29,000.00 and that then brings the price down to $123,575 US Dollars which is sort of what you'd expect for a limited edition with a bunch of extras and good Nappa Leather.

The base price on this model car in the USA for 2016 was 105 grand, I have a suspicion it may go up another 5 or 6 grand for the 2018, but it's just a guess. Some of the other models like the regular E series models actually went down in price, so nobody really knows yet. But assuming the car I ordered was $110,000.00 base, I've probably got another 15 grand in options which would bring the car to mid 120's, then I get another $8750.00 off that price bringing the price down to $116,250.00, so not too bad. But of course the State I live in has a Sales Tax of 7 percent so thats another $8137.50 bringing my total out the door price to $124,387.50 plus $100.00 License transfer fee and $499.00 dealer fee, so this brings the price to a grand total of $124,986.50. What kind of stings me is since I'm not doing a trade in it's costing me an extra $3150.00 in taxes, but since I'll get at least an additional 15 grand extra on the car I wanted to trade, it's an extra approx 12 grand in my pocket. Worse case an additional 6 grand, assuming 3 months goes by and my current car has not sold. Anyhow, I'm not worried in the least. MB is too smart a company to skyrocket the price all that much over last years model and I don't think they can force anyone to get a limited edition that they do not even want. I would think that car would be a tough sell even on the european lots, maybe they are doing this for those that want first hand experience with a AWD AMG E class because as far as I know in the past they only got the RWD model between 2014 and now over in the European countries.

Chappy

Yellow stitching on the Edition 1....body stripe(s). For me, that would diminish the sleeper effect of this car, which for many is part of the appeal. Anxious to see more pics!

Vipershade

The "Edition 1" is only an extra 15.291,50 Euros (unless you get it with Night Black Magno instead of Selenite Magno, which is an extra 2.737,00 Euros). That price is consistent between the sedan and wagon. You hit it on the nose with the 19% VAT tax... comparing European pricing with U.S. pricing is apples to oranges. It's not even in the ballpark of just converting Euros to dollars.

I don't think the U.S. is going to see Selenite Magno Edition 1's, but there will be Night Black Magno Ed1's (definitely in the sedan, and hopefully in the wagon (to at least give us another choice)). I might have considered a Selenite Magno Ed1, but I ruled out the Night Black Magno a while ago.

Pingupinktu

US edition 1 package grouped the ceramic brakes into the package whereas the German configuration leaves out the brakes as a separate package. It's definitely going to make a difference in pricing. I don't track my cars so henceforth no need for these monstrous brakes. I do however appreciate the yellow contrast stitching but definitely not going to buy that brakes in order to get some cotton threads.
As of now the only things that I didn't add on my saloon is the rear airbags for my kids sake, performance seat, and monstrous brakes.

2012 merc amg

But as far as I know you don't have to get the edition 1 for the people like me who order early right? If you do have to get that edition I may just have to wait as no way no how do I want the Ceramic brakes, no need for them and they are big bucks.

2012 merc amg

Still no numbers on the 2018's, they probably won't be out for a while is what the dealer told me.

Pingupinktu

nope you don't hv to be forced to order an ed1 now. I think it only produces a fair number for the states whereas in European it can be ordered for the entire launch yr. not exactly limited by any stretch of imagination. Just another marketing gimmick to get ppl to spend more than we need to. I'd rather pay for true mechnical advancement than cosmetic enhancement for this so called limited packages. And a matte surface is a helluva work to upkeep scratch will show more and any imperfection will be staring right at ya. I am debating btw lunar or selenite metallic. I hv a carbon black M and lunar looks fairly similar but there are tons of selenite grey regular Es flooding the streets. Red is nice but screams at state troopers for some unwanted "love" with lights and siren lol. MB needs to come up some better color for the AMG series.