thatdebenz

From what I have read, I am a little concerned with the car having too stiff a ride in comfort mode. I was contemplating having to swap out the tires for an all season performance tire to soften it up. Any suggestions as to what tire would be appropriate if I decide to go this route? Roads aren't great and I would be doing some winter driving in light snow.
Thanks.

gengar

I don't see the point of buying a car like an AMG and then putting all-seasons on it, especially if you live somewhere where it gets cold enough (because you should running summers and buying a separate wheel set with winter tires).

FWIW, I used to live by Tire Rack HQ and they ran a test of all-seasons vs summer tires in various conditions (test cars were 5-series). I don't remember the specific tires/brands they used off the top of my head, but I didn't think the all-seasons rode better at all, but they were quieter at highway speeds than the summers. I just don't think you're going to overcome harsher suspension settings with the tires.

PeterUbers

I agree somewhat


I put conti dws on my oem 19's on the 2014 E63S and I can drive it all season and it is pretty impressive on dry in summer with the conti and softer indeed

still a rough ride and no all season tire will get rid of that rally car roughness ... I choose to drive in S+ all the time because I always want it to handle at its best

Jan AMG

Do you really drive in S+ all the time? Are you talking about the full S+ mode including transmission or just 2nd position of the suspension mode selector?

PeterUbers

comfort or S for trans (not S+); it's awesome with sprintbooster

but always S+ suspension ... looks too pimp at that height to ride around with a raked end like in S or lol comfort ...

plus comfort suspension is a joke

Jan AMG

Sounds great, where did you buy your sprintbooster?

I like the S+ steering wheel feel but revs are too high for city driving.
I found C or S to be OK unless you are somewhere in twisties..
I set up my AMG button to be S+ trans and suspension S+ too.

Please be more specific, what don't you like about the Comfort suspension mode? I know you are far more experienced so I'd like to know what should I notice.

PeterUbers

from sprintbooster.com

are you talking about your w213 amg or your w212 amg?

comfort is a choppy ride and noisy and not really any improvement in ride quality to me and there is worse handling performance. That's why I don't like it; plus I don't like the raked look with the airbags boosting up the back of the car --- looks silly

my only experience is from riding my w212 amg to and from work everyday and putting 20,000 miles on it

lnferno

I think the 30 series tires have something to do with that ride quality/feel. 30 series is a very thin profile for a car of that size. I would want at least a 35 series tire.

Chocofishez

I have nearly 80k kms on my 2014 and have done all of them in S or C. I find that S+ is quite tight and doesn't suit the character of the car around town. On the highway the car adjusts its own ride height depending on speed. I use all four transmission settings almost equally as each has its benefits. Sport mode always on.

In C the ride is better than our GLE63s in C.

I too am worried that C will be too firm in the new car, and if our GLE is any indication the range topping versions from AMG - with the throttle pedal travel reduced and the exhaust set to backfire - are more about seeming extreme than being the best all rounders you can buy. But I will deal with the reduced ride quality for the new AWD system, tranny and the huge ***** on the highway.

Jan AMG

I'm talking about W212 AMG (which I could drive couple of times) and W218 AMG (which I own now). I have driven less then 1,800miles in mine so far.

I have driven W213 E63S on couple of occasions (AMG Experience) as well as tracking (AMG Performance) and found it 1] Hard - not comfortable no the 20" 2] Loud - Road noise

I don't care that much about looks, I prefer function.

PeterUbers

Hoping that if this w213 really is this harsh... the new M5 will be more luxurious in its comfort setting

chiromikey

Sad it's come to this but I agree. I haven't preferred the M5 since the E39 almost 20 years ago!

PeterUbers

Excellent point chiro:

the e39 m5 is timeless... still some with low miles in the $40-50k mark

Vic55

Both my GTS and C63S are rather taut/harsh in the stiffest settings. The dampers are very rigid. Now while springs adjust height; they do have a coupling effect with the dampers to improve a ride even on streets where I live which are generally very good. I changed both my cars out with KW HAS and the car's comfort levels did improve but the ride is still not entirely comfortable. For me its a good trade off for form and function as I was able to lower the cars and make them a little more endurable. Again, I have great roads where I live YMMV.

So with that being said, I could see the E63S being very much like my two rides and that would not be good for a luxo sedan/gt cruiser. But the car also has Airmatic while my cars have springs. So its going to be interesting on how this car really feels in the multiple suspension settings.


And I 10000% agree with the E39 M5; I had a 2002 LeMans Blue Beast and wow that car was amazing 15 years back. I loved 2nd gear!

Ed99

I guess this can be very subjective where I found Mercedes suspensions aren't stiff enough in sport mode. I am glad to hear that it is too stiff so maybe it would be perfect for me. However getting larger profile tires might help with that extra side wall cushion.

PeterUbers

check out these stats, amazing:

http://fastestlaps.com/models/bmw-m5-e39

chiromikey

You gotta be careful with tires. I went with 265/19/35 and 305/30/19 on new rims for my W212 and my TC/ABS programs were constantly trying to kill me at higher speeds...and that is NOT an exaggeration!

gooner

you could always go for the factory 19s. with 265/40. 295/35 They are a no cost option and look good in black

pb12

I can't see where they are a no cost option for the E63s in the USA. Can you point us to that? That would be a very helpful solution for using it as a long distance GT type car.

Thanks
M

2012 merc amg

You can only get the 20's on the new E63Amg. The brake rotors are larger and I dunno if the 19's will even clear, defiantly not the 18's. This is definitely a very high performing car with a harsh ride and would not be a good choice for someone who lived in a area with very bumpy roads like those in a lot of the northern USA states. Down south with the smooth roads it should be a very enjoyable car to drive. I plan on driving mine mostly down Sourth in Florida.

pb12

I do think the 19" wheels will fit, its just a matter of sourcing them...



https://www.autogespot.com/mercedes-...213/2017/04/04

PeterUbers

Maybe the E43 is more for those that want a comfortable amg

2012 merc amg

This Video says the new E63Amg is a lot more rough riding than even the older 212's. I can believe it.

gooner

Regarding US 19" NCO availability, I'm afraid it's one of those things I am 95% sure Ive read somewhere but cant remember where exactly. I may be wrong about the US.

gooner

In other markets you can order the car with 19s with ceramics, so have no fear on that front.