Ride Quality
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Ride Quality
From what I have read, I am a little concerned with the car having too stiff a ride in comfort mode. I was contemplating having to swap out the tires for an all season performance tire to soften it up. Any suggestions as to what tire would be appropriate if I decide to go this route? Roads aren't great and I would be doing some winter driving in light snow.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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From what I have read, I am a little concerned with the car having too stiff a ride in comfort mode. I was contemplating having to swap out the tires for an all season performance tire to soften it up. Any suggestions as to what tire would be appropriate if I decide to go this route? Roads aren't great and I would be doing some winter driving in light snow.
Thanks.
Thanks.
FWIW, I used to live by Tire Rack HQ and they ran a test of all-seasons vs summer tires in various conditions (test cars were 5-series). I don't remember the specific tires/brands they used off the top of my head, but I didn't think the all-seasons rode better at all, but they were quieter at highway speeds than the summers. I just don't think you're going to overcome harsher suspension settings with the tires.
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I agree somewhat
I put conti dws on my oem 19's on the 2014 E63S and I can drive it all season and it is pretty impressive on dry in summer with the conti and softer indeed
still a rough ride and no all season tire will get rid of that rally car roughness ... I choose to drive in S+ all the time because I always want it to handle at its best
I put conti dws on my oem 19's on the 2014 E63S and I can drive it all season and it is pretty impressive on dry in summer with the conti and softer indeed
still a rough ride and no all season tire will get rid of that rally car roughness ... I choose to drive in S+ all the time because I always want it to handle at its best
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I disagree
I put conti dws on my oem 19's on the 2014 E63S and I can drive it all season and it is pretty impressive on dry in summer with the conti and softer indeed
still a rough ride and no all season tire will get rid of that rally car roughness ... I choose to drive in S+ all the time because I always want it to handle at its best
I put conti dws on my oem 19's on the 2014 E63S and I can drive it all season and it is pretty impressive on dry in summer with the conti and softer indeed
still a rough ride and no all season tire will get rid of that rally car roughness ... I choose to drive in S+ all the time because I always want it to handle at its best
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but always S+ suspension ... looks too pimp at that height to ride around with a raked end like in S or lol comfort ...
plus comfort suspension is a joke
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I like the S+ steering wheel feel but revs are too high for city driving.
I found C or S to be OK unless you are somewhere in twisties..
I set up my AMG button to be S+ trans and suspension S+ too.
Please be more specific, what don't you like about the Comfort suspension mode? I know you are far more experienced so I'd like to know what should I notice.
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Sounds great, where did you buy your sprintbooster?
I like the S+ steering wheel feel but revs are too high for city driving.
I found C or S to be OK unless you are somewhere in twisties..
I set up my AMG button to be S+ trans and suspension S+ too.
Please be more specific, what don't you like about the Comfort suspension mode? I know you are far more experienced so I'd like to know what should I notice.
I like the S+ steering wheel feel but revs are too high for city driving.
I found C or S to be OK unless you are somewhere in twisties..
I set up my AMG button to be S+ trans and suspension S+ too.
Please be more specific, what don't you like about the Comfort suspension mode? I know you are far more experienced so I'd like to know what should I notice.
are you talking about your w213 amg or your w212 amg?
comfort is a choppy ride and noisy and not really any improvement in ride quality to me and there is worse handling performance. That's why I don't like it; plus I don't like the raked look with the airbags boosting up the back of the car --- looks silly
my only experience is from riding my w212 amg to and from work everyday and putting 20,000 miles on it
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In C the ride is better than our GLE63s in C.
I too am worried that C will be too firm in the new car, and if our GLE is any indication the range topping versions from AMG - with the throttle pedal travel reduced and the exhaust set to backfire - are more about seeming extreme than being the best all rounders you can buy. But I will deal with the reduced ride quality for the new AWD system, tranny and the huge ***** on the highway.
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are you talking about your w213 amg or your w212 amg?
comfort is a choppy ride and noisy and not really any improvement in ride quality to me and there is worse handling performance. That's why I don't like it; plus I don't like the raked look with the airbags boosting up the back of the car --- looks silly
my only experience is from riding my w212 amg to and from work everyday and putting 20,000 miles on it
are you talking about your w213 amg or your w212 amg?
comfort is a choppy ride and noisy and not really any improvement in ride quality to me and there is worse handling performance. That's why I don't like it; plus I don't like the raked look with the airbags boosting up the back of the car --- looks silly
my only experience is from riding my w212 amg to and from work everyday and putting 20,000 miles on it
I have driven W213 E63S on couple of occasions (AMG Experience) as well as tracking (AMG Performance) and found it 1] Hard - not comfortable no the 20" 2] Loud - Road noise
I don't care that much about looks, I prefer function.
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Both my GTS and C63S are rather taut/harsh in the stiffest settings. The dampers are very rigid. Now while springs adjust height; they do have a coupling effect with the dampers to improve a ride even on streets where I live which are generally very good. I changed both my cars out with KW HAS and the car's comfort levels did improve but the ride is still not entirely comfortable. For me its a good trade off for form and function as I was able to lower the cars and make them a little more endurable. Again, I have great roads where I live YMMV.
So with that being said, I could see the E63S being very much like my two rides and that would not be good for a luxo sedan/gt cruiser. But the car also has Airmatic while my cars have springs. So its going to be interesting on how this car really feels in the multiple suspension settings.
And I 10000% agree with the E39 M5; I had a 2002 LeMans Blue Beast and wow that car was amazing 15 years back. I loved 2nd gear!
So with that being said, I could see the E63S being very much like my two rides and that would not be good for a luxo sedan/gt cruiser. But the car also has Airmatic while my cars have springs. So its going to be interesting on how this car really feels in the multiple suspension settings.
And I 10000% agree with the E39 M5; I had a 2002 LeMans Blue Beast and wow that car was amazing 15 years back. I loved 2nd gear!
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From what I have read, I am a little concerned with the car having too stiff a ride in comfort mode. I was contemplating having to swap out the tires for an all season performance tire to soften it up. Any suggestions as to what tire would be appropriate if I decide to go this route? Roads aren't great and I would be doing some winter driving in light snow.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Both my GTS and C63S are rather taut/harsh in the stiffest settings. The dampers are very rigid. Now while springs adjust height; they do have a coupling effect with the dampers to improve a ride even on streets where I live which are generally very good. I changed both my cars out with KW HAS and the car's comfort levels did improve but the ride is still not entirely comfortable. For me its a good trade off for form and function as I was able to lower the cars and make them a little more endurable. Again, I have great roads where I live YMMV.
So with that being said, I could see the E63S being very much like my two rides and that would not be good for a luxo sedan/gt cruiser. But the car also has Airmatic while my cars have springs. So its going to be interesting on how this car really feels in the multiple suspension settings.
And I 10000% agree with the E39 M5; I had a 2002 LeMans Blue Beast and wow that car was amazing 15 years back. I loved 2nd gear!
So with that being said, I could see the E63S being very much like my two rides and that would not be good for a luxo sedan/gt cruiser. But the car also has Airmatic while my cars have springs. So its going to be interesting on how this car really feels in the multiple suspension settings.
And I 10000% agree with the E39 M5; I had a 2002 LeMans Blue Beast and wow that car was amazing 15 years back. I loved 2nd gear!
http://fastestlaps.com/models/bmw-m5-e39
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You gotta be careful with tires. I went with 265/19/35 and 305/30/19 on new rims for my W212 and my TC/ABS programs were constantly trying to kill me at higher speeds...and that is NOT an exaggeration!
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From what I have read, I am a little concerned with the car having too stiff a ride in comfort mode. I was contemplating having to swap out the tires for an all season performance tire to soften it up. Any suggestions as to what tire would be appropriate if I decide to go this route? Roads aren't great and I would be doing some winter driving in light snow.
Thanks.
Thanks.
you could always go for the factory 19s. with 265/40. 295/35 They are a no cost option and look good in black
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You can only get the 20's on the new E63Amg. The brake rotors are larger and I dunno if the 19's will even clear, defiantly not the 18's. This is definitely a very high performing car with a harsh ride and would not be a good choice for someone who lived in a area with very bumpy roads like those in a lot of the northern USA states. Down south with the smooth roads it should be a very enjoyable car to drive. I plan on driving mine mostly down Sourth in Florida.
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I do think the 19" wheels will fit, its just a matter of sourcing them...
https://www.autogespot.com/mercedes-...213/2017/04/04
https://www.autogespot.com/mercedes-...213/2017/04/04
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Regarding US 19" NCO availability, I'm afraid it's one of those things I am 95% sure Ive read somewhere but cant remember where exactly. I may be wrong about the US.
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You can only get the 20's on the new E63Amg. The brake rotors are larger and I dunno if the 19's will even clear, defiantly not the 18's. This is definitely a very high performing car with a harsh ride and would not be a good choice for someone who lived in a area with very bumpy roads like those in a lot of the northern USA states. Down south with the smooth roads it should be a very enjoyable car to drive. I plan on driving mine mostly down Sourth in Florida.