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Old 10-18-2017, 06:10 AM
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Cool New Panamera Turbo vs E63S+ 4-Matic

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Old 10-18-2017, 11:30 AM
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Wow. It'll be interesting to see how the Turbo-S Hybrid Panamera does. My guess is it'll be quicker than the AMG.
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Wow. It'll be interesting to see how the Turbo-S Hybrid Panamera does. My guess is it'll be quicker than the AMG.
Porsche website quotes Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid as 3.2s 0-60. But base cost is much higher, $184k vs $104k for E63S.

Maybe we need a new metric to evaluate cars - "$ per sec 0-60". In this case, $104k / 3.2 vs $184 / 3.2.
Old 10-18-2017, 04:34 PM
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Porsche website quotes Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid as 3.2s 0-60. But base cost is much higher, $184k vs $104k for E63S.

Maybe we need a new metric to evaluate cars - "$ per sec 0-60". In this case, $104k / 3.2 vs $184 / 3.2.
Yeah there's no doubt that the E63S is a relative bargain. I think the wagon even more so than the sedan.

That said, and even though I have an E63S wagon on order, money no object I'd have ordered a Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid in Sport Turismo (their wagon-ish variant). That thing is just crazy looking IMO though its hauling capacity is lower than the E's!
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Originally Posted by E63guy
Wow. It'll be interesting to see how the Turbo-S Hybrid Panamera does. My guess is it'll be quicker than the AMG.
doubt it, that thing weighs 6000 lbs
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doubt it, that thing weighs 6000 lbs
Why do you doubt it? Porsche's published 0-60 time is the same as MB's published time for the E63S.
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Why do you doubt it? Porsche's published 0-60 time is the same as MB's published time for the E63S.
And Porsche does underrate their times
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I watched the e hybrid turbo S video, and that car weights a ridiculous amount.. Honestly I'm not a big 0-60 fan.. And the new e63 did 4 seconds faster around Vir, same day same track.

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...l-data-feature

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I'm clearly off topic with lap times vs 0 to 60 lol... Sorry

I love electric car launches and 0-60, but after that the weight and loss of that initial thrust wear off

Did you see the world's greatest drag race motor trend did this year? A Tesla won but a few cars were really gaining and would crush it if it when 1/2 mile
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Originally Posted by susman@eurogermantown.com
I'm clearly off topic with lap times vs 0 to 60 lol... Sorry

I love electric car launches and 0-60, but after that the weight and loss of that initial thrust wear off

Did you see the world's greatest drag race motor trend did this year? A Tesla won but a few cars were really gaining and would crush it if it when 1/2 mile
I don't think OT as all these performance metrics taken together make up the whole of the experience. But that said, I do believe the Turbo S e-hybrid Panamera is going to outperform the E63S. I still ordered the E63S
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I don't think OT as all these performance metrics taken together make up the whole of the experience. But that said, I do believe the Turbo S e-hybrid Panamera is going to outperform the E63S. I still ordered the E63S
I am a huge wagon nerd.. Would love an e63 wagon.. They really hold value too.

I do also like the panamera sport turismo (a wagon by any other name right?)

I'd love a fast all wheel drive wagon that can also have ev capabilities for zero gas for around town..

The Mercedes eq line is coming
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Originally Posted by susman@eurogermantown.com
I am a huge wagon nerd.. Would love an e63 wagon.. They really hold value too.

I do also like the panamera sport turismo (a wagon by any other name right?)

I'd love a fast all wheel drive wagon that can also have ev capabilities for zero gas for around town..

The Mercedes eq line is coming
Panamera Sport Turismo Turbo S = Hybrid wagon with EV capability. However $200k+!
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Originally Posted by susman@eurogermantown.com
I am a huge wagon nerd.. Would love an e63 wagon.. They really hold value too.

I do also like the panamera sport turismo (a wagon by any other name right?)

I'd love a fast all wheel drive wagon that can also have ev capabilities for zero gas for around town..

The Mercedes eq line is coming
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Panamera Sport Turismo Turbo S = Hybrid wagon with EV capability. However $200k+!
Yeah I couldn't be more excited for my AMG wagon. But for sure one of the reasons I chose it over the PSSTTSH (!!!) was the price difference.
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Am I the only one that has to take a breath between saying the name of German cars these days? Lol

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