Wow, all these openings on the nose of the car are debris catchers
#176
Senior Member
Very interesting and relevant thread. Should be sticky.
Not sure how the car was before the absurd "fix" made by MB/AMG. Any detailed pics of it easy at hand to show here?
Unbelievable how this has not been addressed from start but it is a common thread across brands. It seems engineers are more focused on getting the cooling and not considering the hazard this poses by being out in the open. It suggests that placing any protection will lower the cooling capacity and the fix made by Mb appears a scared one. Let us just place this here to get as less impact on the cooling as possible...
Now this gives me the idea that placing a proper solution like the one made by Zunsport when there is already the failed fix of MB is not the ideal
Not sure how the car was before the absurd "fix" made by MB/AMG. Any detailed pics of it easy at hand to show here?
Unbelievable how this has not been addressed from start but it is a common thread across brands. It seems engineers are more focused on getting the cooling and not considering the hazard this poses by being out in the open. It suggests that placing any protection will lower the cooling capacity and the fix made by Mb appears a scared one. Let us just place this here to get as less impact on the cooling as possible...
Now this gives me the idea that placing a proper solution like the one made by Zunsport when there is already the failed fix of MB is not the ideal
#177
Senior Member
sorry, i'm lost here. are these images of the original/current version? how about the new protection that MB/AMG was placing on the new models? does anyone have any images?
#178
Junior Member
Yes the picture above from Tonecas (and my post #151 on this theaad) shows what is currently installed as stock inter cooler protection for current models. I and some others have added the zunnsport grilles in addition to what is currently stock protection.
#180
Senior Member
sorry, but there must be some confusion here. this is the original version, since the launch. it is not the protection that someone here told that was coming this summer. at least there is no visible difference to the original air intakes :|
#181
Junior Member
I was under the wrong impression that the plastic grill that sits directly against the inter coolers were not factory spec on the earlier builds than mine . Looking through the early pics in this thread I can see that I was wrong and do not know if any additional protection is going to appear in the 2019’s .
#182
I was under the wrong impression that the plastic grill that sits directly against the inter coolers were not factory spec on the earlier builds than mine . Looking through the early pics in this thread I can see that I was wrong and do not know if any additional protection is going to appear in the 2019’s .
#183
Senior Member
There was another intercooler damage report in another thread. However, looking at the posted picture the new grids were in place. The only thing that appears to work would be a tight grid screen that would be removable for the track. This is a really bad design on MB's part.
I blew up the picture my friend sent me a little to zoom in on the mesh. I agree it is not the ideal setup, the Zunsport ones would probably be better. It looks like with the ones by Benz that the the bumper cover would have to be removed and it would be more work, not 100 percent sure on that though. They are behind the vertical fins though. Benz should really be covering this for existing orders, it was their screw up, not just our cars but the AMG GTs too.
is it correct to assume all these reports were based on mistake in identifying the supposed new protection from MB?
or is there even a confirmed new protection from MB since there is no MY19 being delivered yet?
Zunsport solution looks great but i would prefer for an OEM version from MB if there is one. I just don't like to mess with what I don't understand. It looks like simply adding a mesh but never know the effect this can have in things like air flow.
Last edited by tonecas; 11-19-2018 at 11:09 PM.
#184
is it correct to assume all these reports were based on mistake in identifying the supposed new protection from MB?
or is there even a confirmed new protection from MB since there is no MY19 being delivered yet?
Zunsport solution looks great but i would prefer for an OEM version from MB if there is one. I just don't like to mess with what I don't understand. It looks like simply adding a mesh but never know the effect this can have in things like air flow.
or is there even a confirmed new protection from MB since there is no MY19 being delivered yet?
Zunsport solution looks great but i would prefer for an OEM version from MB if there is one. I just don't like to mess with what I don't understand. It looks like simply adding a mesh but never know the effect this can have in things like air flow.
I can deal with slightly warmer temps but didn't get the E63S to have reduced performance.
#185
Senior Member
Lowering air flow to the engine will increase temps and limit output power. I have bought the zunsport but haven't installed them yet. Still waiting for Guinea pigs reports )
I am guessing that this will only be a problem when ripping hard for some time thru kanyons or on the race track.
As for my doubt, it is confirmed that MB/AMG hasn't added any protection to intakes.
I am guessing that this will only be a problem when ripping hard for some time thru kanyons or on the race track.
As for my doubt, it is confirmed that MB/AMG hasn't added any protection to intakes.
#186
Member
This is my concern as well. Correct me if I'm wrong but restricting the airflow to the intercoolers and radiator would only cause temps to rise but affect horsepower and total output? Anyone know this as a fact?
I can deal with slightly warmer temps but didn't get the E63S to have reduced performance.
I can deal with slightly warmer temps but didn't get the E63S to have reduced performance.
#187
Lowering air flow to the engine will increase temps and limit output power. I have bought the zunsport but haven't installed them yet. Still waiting for Guinea pigs reports )
I am guessing that this will only be a problem when ripping hard for some time thru kanyons or on the race track.
As for my doubt, it is confirmed that MB/AMG hasn't added any protection to intakes.
I am guessing that this will only be a problem when ripping hard for some time thru kanyons or on the race track.
As for my doubt, it is confirmed that MB/AMG hasn't added any protection to intakes.
Ordering them.