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Old 05-10-2018, 12:52 PM
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Also curious about this question - what is the current turnaround from order for an e63s wagon?
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Sorry for the delay.. Our 1st sold e63 wagon is still green.. Showing July build... I think they will do it as a Sept release..
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Sorry for the delay.. Our 1st sold e63 wagon is still green.. Showing July build... I think they will do it as a Sept release..
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Does that mean they will hold it from customers until September?
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Does that mean they will hold it from customers until September?
E63s sat at the port for months last year waiting for release.
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E63s sat at the port for months last year waiting for release.
Wasn’t that for the E63S and the AMG GTR due to issues with EPA / CARB? Porsche had same issue with the new Panamera...
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EPA/CARB can make it worse, but even when that isn't an issue, the cars will be held until Mercedes decides to release them. For example, if the release date for the 2019 models is in September, cars made in June might sit at the port for a couple of months.

Not sure why they do this. Maybe to give more time for selling the existing inventory, maybe because they want to coordinate availability with marketing campaigns, or maybe to synchronize availability throughout the country. BMW and Audi don't do something like this, so not sure why Mercedes feels like it makes sense for them to do it.

If you want to avoid the issues with having a car sit at the port for a couple of months or more, it's typically safe to use an August build slot, or just wait until the car is actually released before ordering.
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The most common answer I've heard is that it's to prevent playing favorites. Every dealer gets their first at the same time to even the playing field and give some a chance to clear out '18s to keep from having to compete with identically priced '19s showing up around the country.

BMW DID do it with the i8. They waited until every dealer had one car built and ready to ship before releasing them for sale. It's just something they do.
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last year a few cars waited at port for certifications.. GTR had to get a mod for the front active aero... not anticipating that happening again...

I say it could be a August/Sept release because of that..being cautious ...

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The most common answer I've heard is that it's to prevent playing favorites. Every dealer gets their first at the same time to even the playing field and give some a chance to clear out '18s to keep from having to compete with identically priced '19s showing up around the country.

BMW DID do it with the i8. They waited until every dealer had one car built and ready to ship before releasing them for sale. It's just something they do.
That's an exception for BMW for a special car. They don't normally do that. They are also very aggressive with the certifications to avoid delays. They already have many of their 2019 models certified (including ones starting production in July), while none of the Mercedes 2019 models are certified as of the April EPA report.

I remember reading that people had their E400 cars (I think it was wagons) stuck at the port for 4-5 months...

For someone who comes from other brands, this uncertainty about when Mercedes will actually release the cars is strange. My dealer tells me that he has no idea when to expect the car I ordered - it will be at the port in July, but he may not see it until August or September. I told him that if it's not here in August, I will cancel because I don't want a car that sat there for that long. He's ok with that.
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That's an exception for BMW for a special car. They don't normally do that. They are also very aggressive with the certifications to avoid delays. They already have many of their 2019 models certified (including ones starting production in July), while none of the Mercedes 2019 models are certified as of the April EPA report.

I remember reading that people had their E400 cars (I think it was wagons) stuck at the port for 4-5 months...

For someone who comes from other brands, this uncertainty about when Mercedes will actually release the cars is strange. My dealer tells me that he has no idea when to expect the car I ordered - it will be at the port in July, but he may not see it until August or September. I told him that if it's not here in August, I will cancel because I don't want a car that sat there for that long. He's ok with that.
Ive been with MB for about 6 years in all? Porsche/Audi store I worked for as well as a brief stint with a Volvo/Lincoln/Audi store... it's all the same.. MB is no better or worse in this category.. I get to see the whole picture..
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Ive been with MB for about 6 years in all? Porsche/Audi store I worked for as well as a brief stint with a Volvo/Lincoln/Audi store... it's all the same.. MB is no better or worse in this category.. I get to see the whole picture..
I've ordered 15 cars over the years from other German brands - mostly BMW, but also Porsche and Audi. Compared to the others, Mercedes is a mess in my experience. It's not just the certification delays, unpredictable release dates and unknown pricing. It's also the supply chain management issues causing "delayed availability" and "limited availability" of components.

When we tried to place my wife's 2019 E350 order, there were issues with the availability of the 12.3" display (seems like a chronic issue), HUD, and air suspension. At some point we were able to get a build slot with all these components, but then Mercedes canceled the car. It was an almost comical waste of time. So we placed an order for an E450 for her. Again, we had to go through the process of getting a build slot that could actually be configured with all the components. Again, a big time sink. Now we have the order, but no idea when we will actually get the car due to certifications and release, and I can't say we're 100% sure we will ever get it - I guess it could be canceled too... Anyway, this has been the most time-consuming and frustrating car ordering experience that I've ever had. I hope it all goes smoothly now, but it feels like more adventure is coming.
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I've ordered 15 cars over the years from other German brands - mostly BMW, but also Porsche and Audi. Compared to the others, Mercedes is a mess in my experience. It's not just the certification delays, unpredictable release dates and unknown pricing. It's also the supply chain management issues causing "delayed availability" and "limited availability" of components.

When we tried to place my wife's 2019 E350 order, there were issues with the availability of the 12.3" display (seems like a chronic issue), HUD, and air suspension. At some point we were able to get a build slot with all these components, but then Mercedes canceled the car. It was an almost comical waste of time. So we placed an order for an E450 for her. Again, we had to go through the process of getting a build slot that could actually be configured with all the components. Again, a big time sink. Now we have the order, but no idea when we will actually get the car due to certifications and release, and I can't say we're 100% sure we will ever get it - I guess it could be canceled too... Anyway, this has been the most time-consuming and frustrating car ordering experience that I've ever had. I hope it all goes smoothly now, but it feels like more adventure is coming.
I'm not trying to start anything so please dont think I am... but Ive never seen that happen (canceled car?).. but you are correct that the 12"3 in display an HUD has been tough to get... sure the dealer didnt cancel it?
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I'm not trying to start anything so please dont think I am... but Ive never seen that happen (canceled car?).. but you are correct that the 12"3 in display an HUD has been tough to get... sure the dealer didnt cancel it?
Yes, Mercedes canceled the 2019 E350 model entirely, and this happened after orders (including ours) were placed.
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Yes, Mercedes canceled the 2019 E350 model entirely, and this happened after orders (including ours) were placed.
Oh you meant the model sorry .. that is 100% accurate.. shock to me as well..(I literally went to a training for the 350 the day before) 450 staying, but you are correct the 350 is now the 300 again
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I remember reading that people had their E400 cars (I think it was wagons) stuck at the port for 4-5 months...

For someone who comes from other brands, this uncertainty about when Mercedes will actually release the cars is strange. My dealer tells me that he has no idea when to expect the car I ordered - it will be at the port in July, but he may not see it until August or September. I told him that if it's not here in August, I will cancel because I don't want a car that sat there for that long. He's ok with that.
Yep, and when I was at my dealer, picking up the wagon over the weekend I found out he's got a non-AMG '19 E-class being produced before the final '18 E63 he's got on order...which actually got moved up from it's later build date. So they are building '18s and '19s at the same time on the same production line. It's weird.
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I've ordered 15 cars over the years from other German brands - mostly BMW, but also Porsche and Audi. Compared to the others, Mercedes is a mess in my experience. It's not just the certification delays, unpredictable release dates and unknown pricing. It's also the supply chain management issues causing "delayed availability" and "limited availability" of components.

When we tried to place my wife's 2019 E350 order, there were issues with the availability of the 12.3" display (seems like a chronic issue), HUD, and air suspension. At some point we were able to get a build slot with all these components, but then Mercedes canceled the car. It was an almost comical waste of time. So we placed an order for an E450 for her. Again, we had to go through the process of getting a build slot that could actually be configured with all the components. Again, a big time sink. Now we have the order, but no idea when we will actually get the car due to certifications and release, and I can't say we're 100% sure we will ever get it - I guess it could be canceled too... Anyway, this has been the most time-consuming and frustrating car ordering experience that I've ever had. I hope it all goes smoothly now, but it feels like more adventure is coming.
Yeah, it's crazy right now. The screens are on constant back order and their supply is about to get even more constrained with them using the same screens on the new CLS, AMG 4-door, G-Wagen, etc. So unless their supplier is ramping up production or they have another source, it's going to get worse. I had the added complication of ceramic brakes, of which they only allow a certain number per decade to be spec'd with (single digits). I've had cars that took longer to get but I had been told upfront they would take that long due to demand, but never one where the entire time they were saying "it will be produced any day now" for months.
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they held screens off a lot of 18's for 19's.. I haven't had any constraints on 19 screens... even the new one in the C class.
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Can start ordering the CLS53 tomorrow.. finally...

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they held screens off a lot of 18's for 19's.. I haven't had any constraints on 19 screens... even the new one in the C class.
Have your earliest E63S orders started to lock yet? Earliest scheduled build date?
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Have your earliest E63S orders started to lock yet? Earliest scheduled build date?
Yes, 4 E63 sedans locked (red).. 3 are in yellow and 3 in green still
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Since the 2018 is the first year of production does it mean that the 2019 will have less issues better quality and so forth?

What were the main issues with the 2018s if anyone knows?
I think 2018 is the second year of production.

anyways, i would also like to know what are the major issues people found with these models. didn't find anywhere.
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A friend of mine--not a member of the forums--has a 2019 E63S on order and asked me what B0 status means? I'm new on the MB ordering process myself (more familiar with Porsche and BMW). Can anyone shed some light? Thanks.
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A friend of mine--not a member of the forums--has a 2019 E63S on order and asked me what B0 status means? I'm new on the MB ordering process myself (more familiar with Porsche and BMW). Can anyone shed some light? Thanks.
BO is roughly 3 weeks until production
1-4 is timeframes

B5 complete
B7 at port/ready to be shipped
B8 assigned to ship
C1 ship depparting
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BO is roughly 3 weeks until production
1-4 is timeframes

B5 complete
B7 at port/ready to be shipped
B8 assigned to ship
C1 ship depparting
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Whoa! So he'll have a very early 2019?! Or will they hold it at port until September...? He's located in Los Angeles.
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Yea I think they will all end up at port and get released close together.. it'll sit awhile...especially for West coasters


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