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Old 12-12-2018, 05:42 PM
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Race Start and Break-in

Got about 800 miles on the 19 and it still won't let me use race start. Says, "race start not available: see operations manual." Looking at the manual, it says the car won't allow you to use race start OR drift mode until the car is broken in, other places in the manual say at 1000 miles the car is broken in. Anyone able to use it before 1000 miles? Oddly, I'm able to use drift mode, but not able to use race start. A friend of mine with a 2018 was able to use it immediately.
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Got about 800 miles on the 19 and it still won't let me use race start. Says, "race start not available: see operations manual." Looking at the manual, it says the car won't allow you to use race start OR drift mode until the car is broken in, other places in the manual say at 1000 miles the car is broken in. Anyone able to use it before 1000 miles? Oddly, I'm able to use drift mode, but not able to use race start. A friend of mine with a 2018 was able to use it immediately.
I had that pop up once but I did launch my car right when I got out of the dealership. That message came up once when I tried to enter Drift Mode but I turned my car off and back on and it never showed up again.
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Was the car up to temperature? In a previous post it was suggested that the car will not allow race starts until the transmission and engine oil temps have turned from blue to white in the display that shows the tire pressures and temps.

I didn't attempt any race starts till well after my break-in period was completed. Have also always allowed the car to warm up completely. Never have seen the message you mentioned.

Have only enabled drift mode a couple times, but no problems turning that on either after the car was warmed up.
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All criteria were met. Engine at temp, flat ground, steering wheel straight, sport plus or race mode. Gonna be pissed if it still won't let me after 1k miles.
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I just rolled over 1k miles after my commute home today. Damn this thing has a lot of torque.

was definitely able to engage race mode after the car was warmed up.
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I just rolled over 1k miles after my commute home today. Damn this thing has a lot of torque.

was definitely able to engage race mode after the car was warmed up.
Did you try before 1k miles?
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Yea I accidentally switched into race at about 500 miles but switched right out. It had no problems engaging.

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I found another thread on the subject and it looks like around 1k is the magic number. I have noticed not a lot of new threads since release I think we're all enjoying the car.
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I’ve always been able to engage race start day 1. Assuming oil, transmission and coolant all up to temp, the next issue is you have to be on the brakes hard before it allows you to engage it.
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I’ve always been able to engage race start day 1. Assuming oil, transmission and coolant all up to temp, the next issue is you have to be on the brakes hard before it allows you to engage it.
Odd, all conditions are definitely meant, Ive tried standing on the brakes and gas, but still get the error.
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For anyone else interested, about 940 miles in, it started to let me. 0-60 in 3.10
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Originally Posted by jkob5
For anyone else interested, about 940 miles in, it started to let me. 0-60 in 3.10
are you not worried about voiding warranty/doing damage?

what'd you use to track the time, draggy?

do a 60-130mph pull and a 100-200km/h pull for me please!!!!
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are you not worried about voiding warranty/doing damage?

what'd you use to track the time, draggy?

do a 60-130mph pull and a 100-200km/h pull for me please!!!!
Yes I used Dragy. Regarding break in, some engine builders and motorsport experts suggest beating the car hard immediately from the dealer. I'm not saying that's correct, but I'm saying there is conflicting evidence about how you should break it in. I broke it in gently for the most part, but 940 miles vs 1000 miles is literally no difference. I also drove short trips, which breaks in the car faster than 1 long trip (heat cycles), even if the miles are less. Once I couldn't smell the "new engine" smell, I think it's good to go.
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Originally Posted by jkob5
For anyone else interested, about 940 miles in, it started to let me. 0-60 in 3.10
940 miles = 1512.8 km, so you're over the 1500 km hurdle.

When I broke my car in in Germany, I went with the metric units because 1500 km is shorter than 1000 miles
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940 miles = 1512.8 km, so you're over the 1500 km hurdle.

When I broke my car in in Germany, I went with the metric units because 1500 km is shorter than 1000 miles
That must be the magic number then, 1500km
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And then need another 1500km for full break in where we should push the engine bit by bit... It's crazy

On the other end I cannot see how pushing hard a brand new car can be an option. This is physics in play and material resistance to wear. OK, small impurities can burn quickly under high load so it can have less wear/damage to mechanical components but it seems too risky and far fetch. there are a lot of joints, cogs and the likes to be fit between each other
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Originally Posted by jkob5
Yes I used Dragy. Regarding break in, some engine builders and motorsport experts suggest beating the car hard immediately from the dealer. I'm not saying that's correct, but I'm saying there is conflicting evidence about how you should break it in. I broke it in gently for the most part, but 940 miles vs 1000 miles is literally no difference. I also drove short trips, which breaks in the car faster than 1 long trip (heat cycles), even if the miles are less. Once I couldn't smell the "new engine" smell, I think it's good to go.
Are you able to do a few 60-130mph/100-200km/h dragy pulls?
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And then need another 1500km for full break in where we should push the engine bit by bit... It's crazy

On the other end I cannot see how pushing hard a brand new car can be an option. This is physics in play and material resistance to wear. OK, small impurities can burn quickly under high load so it can have less wear/damage to mechanical components but it seems too risky and far fetch. there are a lot of joints, cogs and the likes to be fit between each other
for the first 1500km you suppose to drive it gentle. For the next 1500km you load engine in various drive modes for transmission and engine to adapt.
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for the first 1500km you suppose to drive it gentle. For the next 1500km you load engine in various drive modes for transmission and engine to adapt.
I don't see anywhere it says about the 2nd 1500km . Regardless I will probably only drive the car 15k-20k miles . I'm not going to drive it like a minivan for 20 percent of my time with it..
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After the first 1500 km I drove the car normally. This includes race starts here and there, some canyon carving, and limited use of drift mode.

Did the Rear Diff change right on the scheduled mileage during my cross country drive. Had engine oil changed around 9300 miles while the car was in for one of the CEL diagnostic visits in order to avoid having to return to the dealer again in another week or two.

At 10200 miles now give or take. Other than the CEL episodes - which haven't recurred for a few hundred miles thankfully - the car has been great.
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Of course I hit 1500 Km in the middle of a three day rain storm. Roads are basically hydroplane testing facilities.

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