E63 Wagon 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 differences?
Can someone outline or point me to where I can see the differences in the E63 wagon from 2016 forward?
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Originally Posted by TugboatBill
(Post 7711066)
Can someone outline or point me to where I can see the differences in the E63 wagon from 2016 forward?
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...d924775d89.jpg and the 2018, 2019 are the 213 (Completely new model) that's been in production since 2017 https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...cde33ceb53.jpg 2016 had 577hp and 590lb-ft from a 5.5 liter turbo V8 2018, 2019 have 603hp and 627lb-ft from a 4.0 turbo V8 Differences between 2018 and 2019 were just a few options becoming stand alone instead of part of packages and the addition of a heated steering wheel in 2019. The 213 model improved every aspect of the car (as is typical with a completely new model), faster, smoother, techie-er, (IMO) way better looking. |
One MAJOR addition (kidding) in the 2019 was the heated steering wheel =)
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So I take there wasn't a 2017 model?
Was the HUD available in the 2016 model? |
Originally Posted by TugboatBill
(Post 7711174)
So I take there wasn't a 2017 model?
Was the HUD available in the 2016 model? |
some say the NA 5.5L makes better exhaust sound
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2019 has a completely different (better looking) steering wheel.
other than a mild facelift in the near future... the real thing to be looking forward to would be the new command system that can be found in the new GLE and the A series... very very sharp |
Alot of good intel.... here is something to add:
The W212 4matic is not as advanced and has a fixed tq split vs the W213 4matic plus where the drivetrain can direct the full power to the rear and lower parasitic loss. Turbo's are also different I believe (compressor wheel size) |
Originally Posted by Vic55
(Post 7711425)
Turbo's are also different I believe (compressor wheel size)
These changes are why a 4.0 liter engine outproduces the old 5.5. |
Originally Posted by whoover
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Not sure which years your comparing here. Of course W212 vs. W213 turbos are way more different than just wheel size. The 213 turbos are inside-V and twin scroll. Having separate exhaust manifold connections for each cylinder (and therefore separate channels to spin the scolls) prevents back pressure from one cylinder interfering with the scavenging of another. The inside-V configuration means the heads are reverse-flow, with outboard intake manifolds and inboard exhaust. This means a very short path from cylinder to turbo, which means very low turbo lag. It also requires a different water-air intercooler setup.
These changes are why a 4.0 liter engine outproduces the old 5.5. |
S212 from 2016 has a bigger cargo capacity and non-floating rear brake calipers.
I personally think it looks better than the S213. |
Originally Posted by bobblehead
(Post 7711245)
some say the NA 5.5L makes better exhaust sound
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Had one on order and cancelled it. We decided we wanted to take advantage of the European delivery and couldn't get a coordinated time off until September. I'm now having second thoughts about the E63 vs the E450. I'll have to make a decision one way or another by early June.
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Originally Posted by Dunga
(Post 7711681)
The 5.5 was obviously also turbo charged. I currently own both engines and while I haven’t opened up my W213 yet as it’s still in the break in and I’m out of the country for two weeks, I have to agree the M157 has a very more distinct sound. Maybe it’s the familiarity, I’m more used to it? Maybe the cabin insulation in my “accoustic comfort” package takes some some of the flavor away, but at any rate AMG knows how to make exhausts. OP Weren’t you getting an E450?
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Originally Posted by whoover
(Post 7712059)
My '13 C63 had the best sound of all. The normally aspirated 6.2 is the real deal. AMG has done a great job of making these turbocharged engines sound normally aspirated, but there's nothing like an unimpeded exhaust for sound.
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Originally Posted by Michael Khan
(Post 7712162)
I agree, that 6.2L v8 just sounds pure nasty. I am gonna get a C63(if my friend sells is 507 edition) just for the v8.
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Having just updated my nav maps and POIs for the second time in 6 weeks, I think the new Mercedes me in the '19s is a major improvement. The new communications setup fixes the problems people seem to have with the Mercedes me app also, at least it always works flawlessly for me. It's so cool to be able to ask Alexa where the car is, or what the fuel level or odometer reading is, or to start the car, and it always works.
Within one minute of my updating the GPS, the Mercedes me website showed that I had gone from V14 to V15 and was therefore current. That means the car radioed the mother ship as soon as COMAND rebooted and the database was updated, all within one minute. For as much lousy software Mercedes has subjected us to in the past, I have to give them credit for making a major leap. |
The exterior, interior, engine, transmission, technologies. 2 total different cars. Drive both and you’ll know why.
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