Jphouston

So I ordered a 2020 e63s wagon and it is now at the Brunswick vpc since aug 22. My dealer and salesman have been great. He reached out today to inquire why it is taking so long. He was told there was no agreed release date yet but that the 2020 e63s was expected to be released mid q4. Does this mean I’m waiting till November on my car that has been at the vpc since August?

6G Schnell

My MY 2019 spent about one week at the Long Beach VPC which is consistent with my other orders.

reason for delay could be EPA certificate if 2020 engine/emissions differ from 2019 model. Few years back when the new engine was introduced cars spent months at VPC waiting for approval....
if not this, then the other reason could be repairs —-> minor damage can happen in the transport.
hope this helps....

Jphouston

Thanks for the response. I have been reading the forums a lot and it seems the 2018's experienced many delays. I am new to Mercedes but have always wanted a fast wagon so obviously I am very excited. Apparently this will be one of the first 2020s in the US, my build date was July 17. Anyway, I appreciate any feedback or guidance. Right now I am just trying to settle in for the long wait.

b0rderman

What time of year did your car show up at VPC, and were e63 cars there already waiting much longer?

whoover

All models must get CARB certification before they're released, even if the engine is unchanged from the previous year. Mercedes submits the models for certification according to a schedule that's mostly determined for marketing reasons. If he was told the schedule for E63S shows mid-Q4, it's likely accurate.

b0rderman

That is my understanding as well, and why I asked Schnell when his car showed up at VPC for its short stay.

I am highly motivated to buy into the story that all cars get held up until they are released in Q4, and so cars that show up late Q3/early Q4 (hopefully like mine) will only be there for a short time.

6G Schnell

Here are the dates:
Car at Long Beach VPC on August 7
At my dealer in North CA on August 14

pickup (unfortunately late) on September 11.....

anything else?

6G Schnell

Congrats and welcome aboard!

I know how it feels, as I went through 3-month ordeal in spite of short time at VPC:
dropped off in Germany on June 5, picked up two days ago on September 11.

My dealer was able to track VPC progress, sample screen below.
Since you have relationship with your dealer won’t hurt to ask for progress report!

Hope we you will get the good news soon.

Jphouston

I have similar screenshots for mine and the latest screen says D10 - VPC RCVD and that was on Aug 22. That’s when my sales guy reached out to the vpc and was told 2020 E63 will be released most likely mid Q4. While I wish it were here at least knowing that keeps me from bugging them everyday thinking it could be here soon.

Many thanks for the welcome. Once it arrives I will definitely post pics. I have a road trip to see family for thanksgiving so hoping it arrives before then so I can break it in properly.

Deanchen1993

Really hope this isn’t true. My build was on 8/14. Arrived at Baltimore on 8/29. Been sitting there since

whoover

If you want to review the agonizing wait for the '19s, starting about a year ago, enjoy:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-schedule.html

Hopefully it won't be quite as bad this year.

Deanchen1993

From looking at last year’s launch schedule. I actually think we should be getting our E 63 within this month. The reason is that for last year, the E 53 and the E 63 were released in the same quarter, and this year’s E53 is there already out on mbusa.

Jphouston

Keep me up to date on when yours is released and I will do the same. I am very curious.

6G Schnell

Will keep fingers crossed for you guys (of course when not driving and texting)

Good luck!

Carac

Anyone with a 2020 should expect it to sit at the VPC until Thanksgiving. Not trying to be an downer, just telling the truth. Expecting it any sooner is setting yourself up for months of disappointment. The first year of production, 2018, was delayed slightly due to emissions testing (thank Dieselgate for the certification process getting laborious and backed up, it's smoother now) and didn't go on sale until October 2018. Cars sat at the VPC for 4 months. Then, last year they didn't release them until around the same time because they wanted to give the '18's a full year of being on sale to give dealers a chance to sell through inventory and to keep from hamstringing their 2018 sales numbers. They'll do the same thing this year. It's not due to emissions testing, technical issues, etc. It's entirely market reasons. Better not to get your hopes up.

Jphouston

Sadly I think you are spot on based on what I have heard.

Pioneer222

My 2019 E63S Wagon came into Brunswick GA as well on the 21st of August and I still have no status since then... Hopefully it is not delayed with the release of the 2020 models as we took delivery in Dec of 2018.

Carac

It shouldn't, the only reason for a 2019 staying at the VPC more than a day or two at this point is a delay in a VPC installed option like the electrical outlet, fixing some paint or something damaged in transit, weather, etc.

kileeman

I work at a MB dealer. It is common for MB to hold release until last years models are all gone. Your E63 will wait at the VPC until MB officially launches the 2020 model. Mid 4th quarter is the estimate that I see as well.

Pioneer222

Thanks.. no dealer installed options... should be soon as it has been 3 weeks. I scratched a wheel before shipping it.. maybe they will fix that

Jphouston

@kileeman i know this won’t change anything but why do they do this for wagons? It is my understanding that these are all special order so remaining number of prior year cars has to be low. Figure it would only be the few that people back out of for some reason. I understand dealers to stock the sedans though so that makes more sense.

whoover

It's a result of the WAY Mercedes holds back models. They delay submitting them for CARB certification (the "executive order"), which applies to an entire model-year "family" of models. Basically any model that uses the same engine as a model they wish to hold back gets held back too. For example, this is last year's EO for this family. Scroll to the last page to see all models this released.
https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad...4d0_u3-125.pdf

whoover

By the way, this is the page to bookmark and watch. As Mercedes submits models for CARB approval, they show up in the Daimler section.
https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad.../2020/2020.php

Jphouston

Thanks for the explanation. While it doesn’t speed things up I enjoy learning about the process.

Sixpaqs

I ordered mine in May for Early October European Delivery. Was told the car will be ready for 10/9 Delivery date, but that I can’t pick it up. They are going to lend me a Maybach (which I am trying to have them change to something less large and cumbersome). They will ship my car to the US once I pick up “the barge”.

No reason given for this. Dealer says he doesn’t know why this is.