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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 08:52 AM
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anyone having trouble getting limiter lifted to Vmax my tuner can’t manage it says limiter and gearbox on my tune have been removed! HELP!!
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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by nw66
Hi guys

anyone having trouble getting limiter lifted to Vmax my tuner can’t manage it says limiter and gearbox on my tune have been removed! HELP!!
Do you want
1. amg driver pack vmax 300kmh
2. lift it up to 360 kmh?

With first I can help you with, if your tuner has star diagnosis full software.
with second you wont be able without cpc unit.
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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dav461
Do you want
1. amg driver pack vmax 300kmh
2. lift it up to 360 kmh?

With first I can help you with, if your tuner has star diagnosis full software.
with second you wont be able without cpc unit.
do you have to physically replace CPC unit with cracked CPC unit or can you flash stock CPC unit firmware?
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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 11:06 AM
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I will ask my tuner
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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 11:14 AM
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obliviously really want 360kph! what needs doing to the CPC unit for 360kph? what a pain these new 63 213's are 212 i had was mapped and de limited easy
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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
do you have to physically replace CPC unit with cracked CPC unit or can you flash stock CPC unit firmware?
Originally Posted by nw66
obliviously really want 360kph! what needs doing to the CPC unit for 360kph? what a pain these new 63 213's are 212 i had was mapped and de limited easy
you might want to email GAD Germany, as according to their web-site
Software for CPC
it might be possible to send unit for remap.
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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 01:21 PM
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Yeah did see that on here! All a bit cloak and dagger hey no one really wants to tell us anything
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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by nw66
Yeah did see that on here! All a bit cloak and dagger hey no one really wants to tell us anything
what do you want to hear?
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Originally Posted by dav461
you might want to email GAD Germany, as according to their web-site it might be possible to send unit for remap.
is there a price listed?
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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
is there a price listed?
Airfilter
Optimization of engine software
Deactivation of the speed limiter V-Max
Software for CPC (the central powertrain controller)
5 663 euro ( i think thats a brutto value, for eu zone)

their ecu remap for w212 was 2,500 eur. airfilters are ~250eur
rest is for cpc, if prices are still the same for ecu remap.

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Hi guys, anyone having trouble getting limiter lifted to Vmax my tuner can’t manage it says limiter and gearbox on my tune have been removed! HELP!!
There is a huge difference in system architecture between the previous 5,5L V8 E63/S63 and the latest 4.0 V8 E63/S63 (besides of course the engine). The older ones used CANBUS for communication between the different modules and could relatively easily be "cracked" to remove the vMax limiter. The new ones use (also) Flexray, that is a different bus protocol, and the vMax settings are set in different modules (not only one). So it is very tricky to change this, most professional tuners stay away from this to prevent problems.

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Old Sep 24, 2019 | 06:20 AM
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Weird thing is they say they have done E63S 213 that have limiters removed with same tune as mine! Not sure if Vmax or 186mph says he has video of 190mph which could be 186mph my clock are 3 mph faster as I have speed camera gun alert which shows speed and car shows a little faster than this mine hits limiter at 161mph
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Old Sep 24, 2019 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by nw66
Weird thing is they say they have done E63S 213 that have limiters removed with same tune as mine! Not sure if Vmax or 186mph says he has video of 190mph which could be 186mph my clock are 3 mph faster as I have speed camera gun alert which shows speed and car shows a little faster than this mine hits limiter at 161mph
190mph is stock vmax that comes in amg driver pack ( to be more precise its 192mph (307kmh) on speedo or 186mph(300kmh) gps)
so they havent actually done anything with tune.
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Old Sep 24, 2019 | 09:39 AM
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There is a use difference in system architecture between the previous 5,5L V8 E63/S63 and the latest 4.0 V8 E63/S63 (besides of course the engine). The older ones used CANBUS for communication between the different modules and could relatively easily be "cracked" to remove the vMax limiter. The new ones use (also) Flexray, that is a different bus protocol, and the vMax settings are set in different modules (not only one). So it is very tricky to change this, most professional tuners stay away from this to prevent problems.
different modules as in TCU + ECU + CPC?
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Old Sep 24, 2019 | 09:45 AM
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obliviously really want 360kph! what needs doing to the CPC unit for 360kph? what a pain these new 63 213's are 212 i had was mapped and de limited easy
Why?

Have you ever driven 300? ESSEX isn't exactly the place for top end runs.
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Old Sep 24, 2019 | 01:40 PM
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Why?

Have you ever driven 300? ESSEX isn't exactly the place for top end runs.
Have you ever been to Essex?
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
different modules as in TCU + ECU + CPC?
At least these 3 modules yes, but maybe more (ABS?)
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 06:00 AM
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i know how to code your car to lift the vmax
cool when you coming to UK 🇬🇧
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 11:24 AM
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Ok sorry for being silly!! enlighten me please if you would be so kind??
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 11:32 AM
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Will this also work for W222/C217/A217 S63 cars (post facelift, so MY18 and newer) that have the same 4 liter V8 engine as the W213 E63?
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 11:17 AM
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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 01:30 PM
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Nope 155mph can't find anyone in uk that can lift the limiter! does 155mph in 6th gear which is ****ing annoying my 212 when mapped and limiter lifted was good for 190mph probably more
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So wait, a US spec E63 AMG S can do 190mph?
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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 02:30 PM
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Dunno not in the US
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