GAD Motors E63 runs 10.1
10-09-2019, 06:46 PM
#52
https://www.ajdesigner.com/fl_horsep...trap_speed.php
Be my guest calculate it my friend you only look at it the way you like it but the reality is different to calculate HP you need to lay down a trap speed that support your claim there are thousands and thousands of slips that you can look at! 100-200 means nothing what counts are trap speeds no matter what your car is making the trap speed is your real horse power indicator, in this link you can put your car weight your HP and it will calculate your ideal best quarter mile run possibility so here is the draggy slip find the answer given our car is fully loaded with ceramic breaks and 60 liters of fuel plus a driver who is 75 kg heavy
Last edited by dbasons55; 10-09-2019 at 06:53 PM.
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E63S.Muc (10-09-2019)
10-09-2019, 08:14 PM
#53
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Thanks for sharing. Id say its hard to calculate a long run with slope. You could go 0,90% downhill and get way more HP.
This is the Formula for the 813HP Car with 5,65
Pmot ~ ((2030*1,05+80)*(20/3,6/1,43) + 2110*9,81*0,01 + 0,60*0,26*2,35*(190/3,6)² + 1500)* (190/3,6) /1000 *1,36 ~ 813 HP
This worked on over 50 cars super precise. Just for real high HP 900-1000 its better to have 200-250 Sections. I calculated an RS3 Sedan with 998HP and it dynoed 1004 after.
The only thing that makes it hard is when you have some slope on the end of the 100-200KPH run.
You dont have to understand it but it works 100%. And worst case 10HP off. Ill measure some cars 1/4 Trap Speeds with that link and see how close it is. Thanks.
Edit: caluclated the RS3 of a friend who trapped 162mph in a 3300lbs car with driver. It says 1095hp. The car had 1152hp on the dyno. So i think slope does affects the result a bit.
This is the Formula for the 813HP Car with 5,65
Pmot ~ ((2030*1,05+80)*(20/3,6/1,43) + 2110*9,81*0,01 + 0,60*0,26*2,35*(190/3,6)² + 1500)* (190/3,6) /1000 *1,36 ~ 813 HP
This worked on over 50 cars super precise. Just for real high HP 900-1000 its better to have 200-250 Sections. I calculated an RS3 Sedan with 998HP and it dynoed 1004 after.
The only thing that makes it hard is when you have some slope on the end of the 100-200KPH run.
You dont have to understand it but it works 100%. And worst case 10HP off. Ill measure some cars 1/4 Trap Speeds with that link and see how close it is. Thanks.
Edit: caluclated the RS3 of a friend who trapped 162mph in a 3300lbs car with driver. It says 1095hp. The car had 1152hp on the dyno. So i think slope does affects the result a bit.
Last edited by E63S.Muc; 10-09-2019 at 09:02 PM.
10-09-2019, 08:58 PM
#54
Thanks for sharing. Id say its hard to calculate a long run with slope. You could go 0,90% downhill and get way more HP.
This is the Formula for the 813HP Car with 5,65
Pmot ~ ((2030*1,05+80)*(20/3,6/1,43) + 2110*9,81*0,01 + 0,60*0,26*2,35*(190/3,6)² + 1500)* (190/3,6) /1000 *1,36 ~ 813 HP
This worked on over 50 cars super precise. Just for real high HP 900-1000 its better to have 200-250 Sections. I calculated an RS3 Sedan with 998HP and it dynoed 1004 after.
The only thing that makes it hard is when you have some slope on the end of the 100-200KPH run.
You dont have to understand it but it works 100%. And worst case 10HP off. Ill measure some cars 1/4 Trap Speeds with that link and see how close it is. Thanks.
Edit: caluclated the RS3 of a friend who trapped 162mph in a 3300lbs car with driver. It says 1095hp. The car had 1152hp on the dyno. So i think slope does affect the result a bit.
This is the Formula for the 813HP Car with 5,65
Pmot ~ ((2030*1,05+80)*(20/3,6/1,43) + 2110*9,81*0,01 + 0,60*0,26*2,35*(190/3,6)² + 1500)* (190/3,6) /1000 *1,36 ~ 813 HP
This worked on over 50 cars super precise. Just for real high HP 900-1000 its better to have 200-250 Sections. I calculated an RS3 Sedan with 998HP and it dynoed 1004 after.
The only thing that makes it hard is when you have some slope on the end of the 100-200KPH run.
You dont have to understand it but it works 100%. And worst case 10HP off. Ill measure some cars 1/4 Trap Speeds with that link and see how close it is. Thanks.
Edit: caluclated the RS3 of a friend who trapped 162mph in a 3300lbs car with driver. It says 1095hp. The car had 1152hp on the dyno. So i think slope does affect the result a bit.
Not a bad write up there still in my opinion you are basing it on your numbers your dyno shoot doesn’t really count for what we have dynos vary one to another and a superflow is more superior than a dynojet, in the end we have a constant number that you can see clearly with some nice trap speeds that are more or less all the calculators out there show numbers that are 900+ I really don’t care for the power output what I care for is a daily driven 10.1 car with pump gas
hey if you have 816hp and run 5.65 constant good for you, we are waiting on some tires which will come in a week so let’s see if we can drop the numbers and share
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E63S.Muc (10-09-2019)
10-09-2019, 09:01 PM
#55
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Ye as i said before cant wait for the competition and numbers rolling in. You can get into the 9s for sure. That run was great on 30°C. Numbers are still not super impressive compared to the F90 M5s somehow but many of them are on race gas etc.
Lets see what the E63s will do in the end of development and testing. Keep us dated. Anywhere to follow the progress? IG?
Lets see what the E63s will do in the end of development and testing. Keep us dated. Anywhere to follow the progress? IG?
10-09-2019, 09:09 PM
#56
Ye as i said before cant wait for the competition and numbers rolling in. You can get into the 9s for sure. That run was great on 30°C. Numbers are still not super impressive compared to the F90 M5s somehow but many of them are on race gas etc.
Lets see what the E63s will do in the end of development and testing. Keep us dated. Anywhere to follow the progress? IG?
Lets see what the E63s will do in the end of development and testing. Keep us dated. Anywhere to follow the progress? IG?
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E63S.Muc (10-09-2019)
10-10-2019, 01:53 AM
#57
Senior Member
180-200 can you give you an estimate of horsepower but it is different than measuring from a Dino. On my car fourth gear goes beyond 210 so at 180 I am not at Peak power. The dino will show the peak power at 6000 + RPM. That instantaneous value will be higher than the horsepower at 180-200. Wind speed/direction will also affect 180 to 200. Dino is independent of the weight of the car. Depending on the options, carbon vs steel brakes, wheels, weight of driver etc. weight will vary.
Density altitude will make a difference in 180-200.
The draggy has a 10Hz receiver. It is accurate to 0.1 seconds. 180-200 occurs in such a short time that the draggy Precision will suffer. It provides a value to the nearest hundredth of a second but it is not that accurate, the receiver is only 10 Hertz.
There are many reasons why 180 to 200 will disagree with the dyno number. We may disagree but I hope we can keep the discussion respectful.
Btw how much horsepower would 1.2 second 180-200 correspond to?
Density altitude will make a difference in 180-200.
The draggy has a 10Hz receiver. It is accurate to 0.1 seconds. 180-200 occurs in such a short time that the draggy Precision will suffer. It provides a value to the nearest hundredth of a second but it is not that accurate, the receiver is only 10 Hertz.
There are many reasons why 180 to 200 will disagree with the dyno number. We may disagree but I hope we can keep the discussion respectful.
Btw how much horsepower would 1.2 second 180-200 correspond to?
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10-10-2019, 02:19 AM
#58
on your numbers your dyno shoot doesn’t really count for what we have dynos vary one to another and a superflow is more superior than a dynojet, in the end we have a constant number that you can see clearly with some nice trap speeds that are more or less all the calculators out there show numbers that are 900+ I really don’t care for the power output what I care for is a daily driven 10.1 car with pump gas hey if you have 816hp and run 5.65 constant good for you, we are waiting on some tires which will come in a week so let’s see if we can drop the numbers and share
hey if you have 816hp and run 5.65 constant good for you, we are waiting on some tires which will come in a week so let’s see if we can drop the numbers and share
The 5.65 seconds is from a russian tuner A2 Performance and he doesnt have anything to do with him.
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E63S.Muc (10-18-2019)
10-12-2019, 09:43 AM
#61
Super Member
Thats definitely shows that e63 is not running that 5.3s. It’s much faster 100%. Have you had a chance to measure 100-200 times again? Because stock 812 is making 5-5.3, you can clearly see that it went way ahead of Ferrari.
btw, regarding a2 you were talking about. that car never made again even closer result as shows on insta post.
btw, regarding a2 you were talking about. that car never made again even closer result as shows on insta post.
10-12-2019, 10:02 AM
#62
Thats definitely shows that e63 is not running that 5.3s. It’s much faster 100%. Have you had a chance to measure 100-200 times again? Because stock 812 is making 5-5.3, you can clearly see that it went way ahead of Ferrari.
btw, regarding a2 you were talking about. that car never made again even closer result as shows on insta post.
btw, regarding a2 you were talking about. that car never made again even closer result as shows on insta post.
So the race was real to show the diference.
Dragtimes has run vbox times you can find on youtube
Last edited by MrkiC63; 10-12-2019 at 10:05 AM.
10-12-2019, 10:05 AM
#63
10-12-2019, 10:10 AM
#64
MBWorld Fanatic!
can anybody else confirm if the 812 superfast is really that slow? makes e63s look like a beast!
go on the Ferrari forum its very dull!! Some of this stuff is like Batman with the Riddler 
10-12-2019, 11:13 AM
#66
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10-12-2019, 11:18 AM
#67
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10-12-2019, 11:23 AM
#68
The Ferrari Superfast is not exactly the slowest out there and for sure not the fastest, it’s a good platform when you want to compare a tuned AMG, I just wanted to benchmark the performance of the E63! I would love to see someone show me his E63 gap a Ferrari
10-12-2019, 11:25 AM
#69
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you are right. i forgot the 720s is the dominant beast in that price range. doesn’t that b*tch run 9.9s stock and come alive even more on a tune?
10-12-2019, 12:27 PM
#70
Yes the 720 is in a different league even when compared to its competitors it destroys them, I am sure it will not be easy for the E63 to catch up from a roll but maybe with a jump start from a dig will give the 720 some hard time, I might do a video of that race with my GT63 soon will post it even if I lose
10-12-2019, 12:29 PM
#71
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Yes the 720 is in a different league even when compared to its competitors it destroys them, I am sure it will not be easy for the E63 to catch up from a roll but maybe with a jump start from a dig will give the 720 some hard time, I might do a video of that race with my GT63 soon will post it even if I lose
10-12-2019, 01:29 PM
#72
and this is why I don’t understand the fact that people don’t understand if you own an E63 there is no way that you will get a super car performance as cheap as you want! Yes it’s true it’s better to pay less for more but at one point you will pay more if you want more! I don’t know how much an AMG cost in the states but for example the E63 in this thread cost around 160k euros and the running program with installation cost 33k which is around 5th of the car price and puts a nice 50% gain in power performance! Which gives you the outcome of smoking a $400k supercar! In the end it’s what some one wants to do for there personal enjoyment and preferences
10-12-2019, 10:53 PM
#74
MBWorld Fanatic!
720 run 4.7-4.8 seconds 100-200. And don’t forget this is a sedan you want to compare with one of the best build motorcars in the last decade
and this is why I don’t understand the fact that people don’t understand if you own an E63 there is no way that you will get a super car performance as cheap as you want! Yes it’s true it’s better to pay less for more but at one point you will pay more if you want more! I don’t know how much an AMG cost in the states but for example the E63 in this thread cost around 160k euros and the running program with installation cost 33k which is around 5th of the car price and puts a nice 50% gain in power performance! Which gives you the outcome of smoking a $400k supercar! In the end it’s what some one wants to do for there personal enjoyment and preferences
and this is why I don’t understand the fact that people don’t understand if you own an E63 there is no way that you will get a super car performance as cheap as you want! Yes it’s true it’s better to pay less for more but at one point you will pay more if you want more! I don’t know how much an AMG cost in the states but for example the E63 in this thread cost around 160k euros and the running program with installation cost 33k which is around 5th of the car price and puts a nice 50% gain in power performance! Which gives you the outcome of smoking a $400k supercar! In the end it’s what some one wants to do for there personal enjoyment and preferences
e63s.muc, given the weight of e63s, how much hp is needed for that kind of time? 1000?
10-12-2019, 11:20 PM
#75
Senior Member
