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So I mentioned the other day was looking at a 2020, went in this morning and just ordered at 2021. They took a $2k deposit from me and the sticker is $127,800. No carbon brakes, didn't want the maintenance headache. The sales guy just called me to let me know the lease would be closer to $3000. Im in texas. I was planning on $2200 or so. So can someone help me understand? The sales guy didn't know the residual or money factor but here is my estimates
Anyways my quick math on what lease should be
$128,000 price and say 59% residual is $75,520
$128,000 - 75,520/36 months = $1,457.77 Base Payment
Then $128,000 + $75,520 = 203,520 x .0022(which is high) = $447.74 rent charge
So $1,457.77 base + $447.74 rent charge = $1,905.51 + sales tax
So I don't see how its anywhere near $3000/mo but if thats what they say fine, but this isn't my first lease.
So I mentioned the other day was looking at a 2020, went in this morning and just ordered at 2021. They took a $2k deposit from me and the sticker is $127,800. No carbon brakes, didn't want the maintenance headache. The sales guy just called me to let me know the lease would be closer to $3000. Im in texas. I was planning on $2200 or so. So can someone help me understand? The sales guy didn't know the residual or money factor but here is my estimates
Anyways my quick math on what lease should be
$128,000 price and say 59% residual is $75,520
$128,000 - 75,520/36 months = $1,457.77 Base Payment
Then $128,000 + $75,520 = 203,520 x .0022(which is high) = $447.74 rent charge
So $1,457.77 base + $447.74 rent charge = $1,905.51 + sales tax
So I don't see how its anywhere near $3000/mo but if thats what they say fine, but this isn't my first lease.
I think they accidentally sold you a 2021 AMG GT63s
LOL right? Where Im lost is this Aston Vantage $173k sticker is available $0 down $1699/mo lease for 39 months at a mb/aston dealer in town when i was looking around for wagons this weekend
So I mentioned the other day was looking at a 2020, went in this morning and just ordered at 2021. They took a $2k deposit from me and the sticker is $127,800. No carbon brakes, didn't want the maintenance headache. The sales guy just called me to let me know the lease would be closer to $3000. Im in texas. I was planning on $2200 or so. So can someone help me understand? The sales guy didn't know the residual or money factor but here is my estimates
Anyways my quick math on what lease should be
$128,000 price and say 59% residual is $75,520
$128,000 - 75,520/36 months = $1,457.77 Base Payment
Then $128,000 + $75,520 = 203,520 x .0022(which is high) = $447.74 rent charge
So $1,457.77 base + $447.74 rent charge = $1,905.51 + sales tax
So I don't see how its anywhere near $3000/mo but if thats what they say fine, but this isn't my first lease.
Mine is a 2019 but when I got it the MF was .00345. Needless to say, I bought instead of leasing. You'll probably also be surprised at the residual. Ask the dealer for the MF and residual.
Go on Edmonds lease forum and ask for the residual and mf, then go back with the info and work toward a deal. I don't think they would have lease info before the cars are built. I had a 2018 911 C4S with a 148,000 msrp that was 2600 a month including PA taxes. I am thinking my 2021 E63S will be between $2200 and $2400, if its $3000 I will walk for sure.
Also carbon fiber steering wheel wasn't an option, that was disappointing bc I love the cf steering wheel on the current wagon. Hopefully they add that before this one goes into production, im 3rd on the list and first is going to begin production in october, mine would be in january, not sure why, but what i was told even though only 2 ppl ahead of me
Even price they dont really have, my build sheet says 1,127,xxx
So Im assuming the $127k is the price. Again I didn't do designo paint and I didn't do carbon brakes, so sticker shouldn't be high.
Attached my build sheet from today, any options I left off I should add?
That base price is not correct, the 2021 pricing is not out yet. Use the 2020 base and add your options for a closer number. Your dealer blows and should have told you that. I am getting my car from a dealer 400 miles from me because everyone around me sucks. I just ordered a 2021 GLE580 and it has that same base price on the build sheet because that price is not out yet either. Good luck with your build. Also look at the DOG someone just posted for the 2021 options.
* Actually the base is over a million dollars.
Even price they dont really have, my build sheet says 1,127,xxx
So Im assuming the $127k is the price. Again I didn't do designo paint and I didn't do carbon brakes, so sticker shouldn't be high.
Attached my build sheet from today, any options I left off I should add?
If you are looking in Houston, I can recommend better options for dealers to give you real world numbers (not sure about 2021 yet though).
My quote for a $124,xxx 2020 was around $2000/month with 12k miles per anum
Go on Edmonds lease forum and ask for the residual and mf, then go back with the info and work toward a deal. I don't think they would have lease info before the cars are built. I had a 2018 911 C4S with a 148,000 msrp that was 2600 a month including PA taxes. I am thinking my 2021 E63S will be between $2200 and $2400, if its $3000 I will walk for sure.
my $113k 2018 e63s amg was $1,671 before tax (i didn't option it, i know it's cheap, it's a swapped lease)
That base price is not correct, the 2021 pricing is not out yet. Use the 2020 base and add your options for a closer number. Your dealer blows and should have told you that. I am getting my car from a dealer 400 miles from me because everyone around me sucks. I just ordered a 2021 GLE580 and it has that same base price on the build sheet because that price is not out yet either. Good luck with your build. Also look at the DOG someone just posted for the 2021 options.
* Actually the base is over a million dollars.
LOL right? Where Im lost is this Aston Vantage $173k sticker is available $0 down $1699/mo lease for 39 months at a mb/aston dealer in town when i was looking around for wagons this weekend
agree, the salesman has no idea what he's talking about, I called this morning and left a voicemail for the finance manager and he hasn't called me back.
I rolled over to that edmunds forum someone mentioned above I saw people posting GLK leases for .00125 money factors. The .0022 i posted above i said was high as that 5.5% or so. I don't know if .00125 is available on an e63 wagon but I want 7500 miles bc i dont drive much, work and home are short distances and I saw someone post the GLK has a 61% residual so if the e63s wagon has a lower residual than a glk i would be stunned
Still trying to sort it all out but will post numbers here shortly if/when he calls.
LOL right? Where Im lost is this Aston Vantage $173k sticker is available $0 down $1699/mo lease for 39 months at a mb/aston dealer in town when i was looking around for wagons this weekend
Are my lease numbers above not correct? Sales tax is not $1000/mo addition, what money factors/residuals are you guys seeing on the new wagon?
Aston Martin is hurting for a reason and they will have to take significant losses on returns giving the numbers they use to create these deals. I remember looking at AM Vantage leases a year or so ago. Numbers were 59% RV at 36/7500 miles with a 0.00056MF.
Just for reference, our local dealer bombarded us with special lease savings emails after we already returned our 2018 E63s but their numbers were sub $2k/month for a 30months/12k miles lease. Granted this was a few months ago on a MY20, likely a base price of $115k or so...
I recommend getting the actual MF quote to see how much they are marking it up. Doesn't Texas also add the full sales tax into the lease?
agree, the salesman has no idea what he's talking about, I called this morning and left a voicemail for the finance manager and he hasn't called me back.
I rolled over to that edmunds forum someone mentioned above I saw people posting GLK leases for .00125 money factors. The .0022 i posted above i said was high as that 5.5% or so. I don't know if .00125 is available on an e63 wagon but I want 7500 miles bc i dont drive much, work and home are short distances and I saw someone post the GLK has a 61% residual so if the e63s wagon has a lower residual than a glk i would be stunned
Still trying to sort it all out but will post numbers here shortly if/when he calls.
They haven't made GLKs since 2015 as far as I know, so something doesn't make sense. Also, the money factor and residuals for AMG models are much worse than for non-AMG models. Remember, I was quoted MF .00345 in January 2019 for my E63S.
They haven't made GLKs since 2015 as far as I know, so something doesn't make sense. Also, the money factor and residuals for AMG models are much worse than for non-AMG models. Remember, I was quoted MF .00345 in January 2019 for my E63S.
That's correct, and also that MF is crazy. Mine was 0.00265 in December 2019.
They haven't made GLKs since 2015 as far as I know, so something doesn't make sense. Also, the money factor and residuals for AMG models are much worse than for non-AMG models. Remember, I was quoted MF .00345 in January 2019 for my E63S.
That makes sense as most amg models plunge into the abyss value wise but the e63s wagon is right there at the top in terms of retaining value and you're talking a whole brand new model. I called in twice today and everytime the girl who answers connects me to the finance manager it goes to voicemail. I just spoke to audi by me and they 1 rs6 avant allocation left, they don't have the money factor and residual till 1 mo before the car comes which would be december but the salesman asked the finance manager and he believes depending on price $125k car should hover around $2100/mo with good credit
Nobody has called me back yet, ridiculous, but ill give them benefit of the doubt bc we were supposed to have a hurricane last night and nothing hit. I spoke to an audi dealer today and they had 1 allocation for an RS6 avant left I could have and they quoted me
52% residual
.0032 money factor
36 mo/10k lease
This was based of the RSQ8 leases they've done. No offense, but what is wrong with people paying 8% interest rate money factors in a record low interest rate environment? No car is worth getting bent over for, if the numbers don't work its a no deal imo. Im not paying $2900/mo for an rs6 avant lol
Nobody has called me back yet, ridiculous, but ill give them benefit of the doubt bc we were supposed to have a hurricane last night and nothing hit. I spoke to an audi dealer today and they had 1 allocation for an RS6 avant left I could have and they quoted me
52% residual
.0032 money factor
36 mo/10k lease
This was based of the RSQ8 leases they've done. No offense, but what is wrong with people paying 8% interest rate money factors in a record low interest rate environment? No car is worth getting bent over for, if the numbers don't work its a no deal imo. Im not paying $2900/mo for an rs6 avant lol
Couldn’t agree more. That’s a mortgage payment for a family in Houston goodness sake. It makes me sad because I absolutely love the new cars coming out from MB and Audi but it’s a matter of principle at this point.
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