Tires Make a BIG Difference
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'21 E63 Wagon, '24 EQS AMG
Tires Make a BIG Difference
So, I have a 2021 E63, and have been enjoying every moment of driving this glorious machine. However, the stock Michelin tires were annoying me a little. They're a bit noisy and stiff.
Then one day I had to drive on wet pavement. While the stock Michelin Pilot Sport 4Sare phenomenal on dry pavement but virtually useless on wet. I was slipping all over the place. Then I got a huge nail in the front tire. Which was repaired, but the repair did not hold. So I was going to have to buy a new tire.
I decided to swap off the stock tires to the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4. I did this on my previous CLS and was totally satisfied with them.
Wow. What a difference.
Unsurprisingly, I lost some dry pavement handling with the all season tires. That was a bummer, but it is not that noticeable. I don't drive that aggressively. However, the all seasons are significantly quieter and smoother.
I just completed a 600 mile road trip on these new tires and the car was a wonderful cruiser, but still able to get raucous when necessary.
Then one day I had to drive on wet pavement. While the stock Michelin Pilot Sport 4Sare phenomenal on dry pavement but virtually useless on wet. I was slipping all over the place. Then I got a huge nail in the front tire. Which was repaired, but the repair did not hold. So I was going to have to buy a new tire.
I decided to swap off the stock tires to the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4. I did this on my previous CLS and was totally satisfied with them.
Wow. What a difference.
Unsurprisingly, I lost some dry pavement handling with the all season tires. That was a bummer, but it is not that noticeable. I don't drive that aggressively. However, the all seasons are significantly quieter and smoother.
I just completed a 600 mile road trip on these new tires and the car was a wonderful cruiser, but still able to get raucous when necessary.
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I'm also going to swap to All Seasons before winter. Trying to get some info from Bridgestone on their new RE980AS+, which is supposedly replacing the RE980AS in terms of improvements made. Otherwise I may go with the Conti DWS 06 Plus...
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So, I have a 2021 E63, and have been enjoying every moment of driving this glorious machine. However, the stock Michelin tires were annoying me a little. They're a bit noisy and stiff.
Then one day I had to drive on wet pavement. While the stock Michelin Pilot Sport 4Sare phenomenal on dry pavement but virtually useless on wet. I was slipping all over the place. Then I got a huge nail in the front tire. Which was repaired, but the repair did not hold. So I was going to have to buy a new tire.
I decided to swap off the stock tires to the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4. I did this on my previous CLS and was totally satisfied with them.
Wow. What a difference.
Unsurprisingly, I lost some dry pavement handling with the all season tires. That was a bummer, but it is not that noticeable. I don't drive that aggressively. However, the all seasons are significantly quieter and smoother.
I just completed a 600 mile road trip on these new tires and the car was a wonderful cruiser, but still able to get raucous when necessary.
Then one day I had to drive on wet pavement. While the stock Michelin Pilot Sport 4Sare phenomenal on dry pavement but virtually useless on wet. I was slipping all over the place. Then I got a huge nail in the front tire. Which was repaired, but the repair did not hold. So I was going to have to buy a new tire.
I decided to swap off the stock tires to the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4. I did this on my previous CLS and was totally satisfied with them.
Wow. What a difference.
Unsurprisingly, I lost some dry pavement handling with the all season tires. That was a bummer, but it is not that noticeable. I don't drive that aggressively. However, the all seasons are significantly quieter and smoother.
I just completed a 600 mile road trip on these new tires and the car was a wonderful cruiser, but still able to get raucous when necessary.
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The rubber compound has been modified to work better at low temperatures AFAIK.
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Well that would seem to be news to Bridgestone customer service! I just got off a chat with them, and they claim the only difference between the two is that the "+" model is an OE tire which does not come with a mileage warranty. Other than that, they claim no differences. I don't buy it...especially as the older 980AS is supposedly on closeout at TireRack. I'm guessing the 980AS is being phased out.
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Well that would seem to be news to Bridgestone customer service! I just got off a chat with them, and they claim the only difference between the two is that the "+" model is an OE tire which does not come with a mileage warranty. Other than that, they claim no differences. I don't buy it...especially as the older 980AS is supposedly on closeout at TireRack. I'm guessing the 980AS is being phased out.
The Potenza RE980AS+ molds the updated all-season compound into an asymmetric, noise-optimized tread pattern to balance dry and wet performance with quiet comfort. The tire's lateral slots are chamfered to improve rubber-to-road contact and aid in dry braking, while the 3D full-depth sipes interlock for tread stability. High sipe density creates the biting edges for traction in slippery conditions, and their full depth helps maintain performance over time. The Potenza RE980AS+'s tread pattern slots and grooves are interconnected to facilitate water evacuation from the contact patch, and open shoulder slots combine with high levels of see-through void to further reduce the risk of hydroplaning".
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"Compared to the Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS it replaces, the new Potenza RE980AS+ shares the same performance-tuned tread design, featuring a new, updated compound developed to increase light-snow traction.
The Potenza RE980AS+ molds the updated all-season compound into an asymmetric, noise-optimized tread pattern to balance dry and wet performance with quiet comfort. The tire's lateral slots are chamfered to improve rubber-to-road contact and aid in dry braking, while the 3D full-depth sipes interlock for tread stability. High sipe density creates the biting edges for traction in slippery conditions, and their full depth helps maintain performance over time. The Potenza RE980AS+'s tread pattern slots and grooves are interconnected to facilitate water evacuation from the contact patch, and open shoulder slots combine with high levels of see-through void to further reduce the risk of hydroplaning".
The Potenza RE980AS+ molds the updated all-season compound into an asymmetric, noise-optimized tread pattern to balance dry and wet performance with quiet comfort. The tire's lateral slots are chamfered to improve rubber-to-road contact and aid in dry braking, while the 3D full-depth sipes interlock for tread stability. High sipe density creates the biting edges for traction in slippery conditions, and their full depth helps maintain performance over time. The Potenza RE980AS+'s tread pattern slots and grooves are interconnected to facilitate water evacuation from the contact patch, and open shoulder slots combine with high levels of see-through void to further reduce the risk of hydroplaning".
