Winter vs. All Season - Boston MA




Definitely wear some warm waterproof gloves and get a soft brush to be able to wipe the snow off your car (windows, mirrors, hood, roof). Don't be one of those guys that doesn't wipe their car off; all that snow flies back at the person behind you. Get yourself an ice scraper as well in case your windshield gets icy when it's parked (and you don't want to hilariously snap your credit card in half).
Get some good windshield wiper fluid and fill up your tank. When you're driving on the roads and it's a gray/brown slushy mess, that gets picked up and slung back at you from the tires from the person in front of you (like the rain on a wet road). Well the dirty mess just smears on your windshield, so you need a good fluid (that doesn't freeze) to be able to clean off your windshield while driving. I had the experience of my washer tank running out and literally could not see out of the front window. I had to stop at the next nearest auto store if not it would have been impossible to drive the 50 miles home....
So I've been deliberating over everyone's input, which I very much appreciate, as well as doing my own research. I've been able to narrow it down to 3 tire types:
Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 - 265/35/20 Front, 295/30/20 Rear
Pros:
- I watched
on Youtube that compared the Michelin PS4S Summer, PS All Season 4, and the Michelin X-Ice Snow all on below-freezing weather with plenty of snow. From my understanding, the X-Ice Snow tire is a much more hardcore snow tire than the Michelin PA4 or PA5 or the Pirelli Sottozero 3. With that said, the Pilot All Season 4's performed very similarly to the X-Ice Snow and I imagine that the difference between the Pilot All Season 4 and Pilot Alpin 4 would be even smaller than what was shown on the video.
- I don't think I'll be driving on actual snow like the above video, as mentioned earlier I'm living in Boston where from my understanding, the city does a pretty good job of clearing the roads of snow on snow days. So if I'm driving mainly on dry or wet conditions that don't necessarily have a need for snow tires, and the video above shows a marginal advantage to snow tires when driving on snowy conditions, then I'm not sure that I see a huge advantage for winter tires in my case.
- Good reviews on TireRack
- Exact same tire sizing as the factory summer tires.
- I can use these into the summer if I wanted to.
- Least important, but still an advantage: cheaper at $1284 for the set of 4.
- TireRack is backordered on the rear tire size and I'd have to go to another supplier to find them on the timeline that I need it in (under 2 weeks).
- I'd hate for this to not be enough in Boston winters, I feel like it might be fine but I really don't want to regret buying all seasons a month after installation and spending another $1500+ on a winter set for a leased car. I feel like winter tires may be the more sensible option, but all seasons seem tempting and convenient.
Pros:
- Strong winter tires, I know I'll be good driving these regardless of the road conditions.
- Exact same tire sizing as the factory summer tires.
- Pricing isn't bad, $1569.
- Need to determine shipping from Alloy Wheels Direct.
- Can't drive on them when temperature goes above 50 degrees, so I'd be forced to switch back to my P Zero summers.
Pros:
- Good winter tires, not sure how they compare against the Michelin PA4 but I suppose you can't go wrong with either.
- Readily available on the sizes mentioned above off TireRack.
- Price is fine.
- I'd have to go narrower on the front to 255 instead of 265, I know it's not a big deal but I suppose it's still a con.
- Lower speed rating.
- Reported to not last more than 7k miles, which is unfortunate.
- Can't drive on them when temperature goes above 50 degrees, so I'd be forced to switch back to my P Zero summers.




Last edited by HBerman; Jan 4, 2022 at 08:24 AM.




2. I have a set of 265/35R-20 Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D XL squared all the way around on my wagon. With this setup I can go anywhere until I get hung up because of ground clearance. I've used versions of this tire since my days with my W211 500 wagon. Many a ski trips from NYC to North VT without ever and I mean ever having an issue of not being able to drive the car comfortably in any condition...They are reasonably priced and work great on the car. In Boston, you'll want to journey out and beyond the city... New England is wonderful in the winter. Enjoy it.
I went with Yokohama winter tires and I'm happy with them. They are wearing fine and while you loose some steering feel they don't get all squirmy under hard acceleration like I've felt with some other winter tires. 19" too. Better for those winter damaged roads.




Plus Draggy showed 3.28sec to 60 with the Sottozero's. Good enough for me




I went with Yokohama winter tires and I'm happy with them. They are wearing fine and while you loose some steering feel they don't get all squirmy under hard acceleration like I've felt with some other winter tires. 19" too. Better for those winter damaged roads.
Car looks great but the front could use some spacers

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