All seasons / winter tires
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2021 Glb35 AMG (2013 GLK 350)
Not all seasons are same, eg UHP A/S tires are closer to summers, then you have grand touring and touring (softer) including All Weather (European All Season) tires.... You can get Michelin CrossClimate 2 with 3 peak mountain and snowflake (3PMSF) symbol to meet a snow traction. That is very close to the Alpin 5 winter performance though the wet performance lags... Both tires have the V shaped tire thread grip and softer tires than UHP A/S tires which are for performance....
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2019 AMG E53
I just ordered these for my E53
Michelin - Pilot Alpin PA4 - 245/35R20 91V BSW
Michelin - Pilot Alpin PA4 - 275/30R20 XL 97V BSW
They don't get here until next week so I don't know how well they will do. Anyone try this before?
Michelin - Pilot Alpin PA4 - 245/35R20 91V BSW
Michelin - Pilot Alpin PA4 - 275/30R20 XL 97V BSW
They don't get here until next week so I don't know how well they will do. Anyone try this before?
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check the production date when you get them. Anything over 3 yrs old should be sent back to vendor. Rubber compounds may start to degrade over time.
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There's a Pirelli Sottozero II in a 265/35/20 size available @ Tire Rack which would fit onto my 20" wheel I believe. Good choice? They're $400 a piece which seems a bit steep but if the tire is worth it, I may go for it. There's also a Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D available for 20" wheels, seems like a worthwhile consideration? Did not seem to be able to track down any Michelin's which would have been my first choice . . .
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2020 E63S Wagon, 2007 335i convertible (tuned to 400hp), 2011 Audi A4 Avant
I changed the Michelin summers out for Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 Plus all seasons. The ride is waaaay better than the Michelins with the added benefit of being all seasons, so I can drive them year round, including in light snow...drove them up to the mountains last winter after a decent snow and they did great.
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I removed the Michelin PS/4 summers that were OEM on my 2021 E63S wagon and replaced them with the Michelin A/S 4 at around 1500 miles. The ride improved significantly over the PS/4 and I've gone through one winter (2-3 inches of snow in Raleigh) without any problems. Tread life is much better than the PS/4, but, of course, you are sacrificing dry traction performance. However, if I was living in the northern states, I would have ordered the Mercedes 19" Winter Wheel package for the cold season. I still have no idea why Mercedes does not offer an optional all-season UHP tire for the original build. I had Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS on my previous 2018 E63S sedan and was quite pleased with the performance and handling as well.
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I changed the Michelin summers out for Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 Plus all seasons. The ride is waaaay better than the Michelins with the added benefit of being all seasons, so I can drive them year round, including in light snow...drove them up to the mountains last winter after a decent snow and they did great.
All that being said, snow was of zero concern but I'm sure they could handle a light dusting.
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2021 Glb35 AMG (2013 GLK 350)
That matched my experience as well, switching from 35 profile Conti 6 Summer tires to PS AS 4's... UHP A/S tires are excellent for dry and wet. Comfort is better than summer, but still not close to the softer UHP winters...
Below is a new video comparing the winter vs all weather A/S tires:
Results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=742439515
I just couldn't deal with the harshness with PZero summer tires and recently switched to DWS06+ as well. I was concerned they wouldn't deal with the power but have been pleasantly surprised with both wet and dry traction. Ride is still not as compliant as I'd like but definitely much improved and wife has been thrilled with the improvement as it is her daily.
Results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=742439515
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2020 E63S Wagon, 2007 335i convertible (tuned to 400hp), 2011 Audi A4 Avant
I just couldn't deal with the harshness with PZero summer tires and recently switched to DWS06+ as well. I was concerned they wouldn't deal with the power but have been pleasantly surprised with both wet and dry traction. Ride is still not as compliant as I'd like but definitely much improved and wife has been thrilled with the improvement as it is her daily.
All that being said, snow was of zero concern but I'm sure they could handle a light dusting.
All that being said, snow was of zero concern but I'm sure they could handle a light dusting.
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I just swapped P-Zero summers out for DWS06+ A/S tires on my wagon and the steering/driving feel of the car changed dramatically. The car on feels floaty and not nearly as planted, inspiring very little confidence at faster speeds, especially when going through even light highway cornering. Google tells me that tires have a 'break-in' period of 500 miles and that this problem should go away. Was any of this similar to your experience with the DWS06+? While road noise is greatly improved vs. Pzeros, the impact to handling is a big negative in my book. However, I only have ~200 miles on them so am holding out hope that their handling improves as they get 'worn in'.
I just swapped P-Zero summers out for DWS06+ A/S tires on my wagon and the steering/driving feel of the car changed dramatically. The car on feels floaty and not nearly as planted, inspiring very little confidence at faster speeds, especially when going through even light highway cornering. Google tells me that tires have a 'break-in' period of 500 miles and that this problem should go away. Was any of this similar to your experience with the DWS06+? While road noise is greatly improved vs. Pzeros, the impact to handling is a big negative in my book. However, I only have ~200 miles on them so am holding out hope that their handling improves as they get 'worn in'.
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I did notice a slightly less planted feel upon changing, but I fully expected that. You can't expect A/S tires to have the same grip or cornering response as summer tires. I have a couple thousand miles on my tires now, and it has gotten better, but it will never feel the same as with the summers. It is good enough for me, as I don't track the car or even drive super aggressively. I am happy to trade that 9/10ths grip for the way better ride and way less road noise.
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@E63Wagen
I just swapped P-Zero summers out for DWS06+ A/S tires on my wagon and the steering/driving feel of the car changed dramatically. The car on feels floaty and not nearly as planted, inspiring very little confidence at faster speeds, especially when going through even light highway cornering. Google tells me that tires have a 'break-in' period of 500 miles and that this problem should go away. Was any of this similar to your experience with the DWS06+? While road noise is greatly improved vs. Pzeros, the impact to handling is a big negative in my book. However, I only have ~200 miles on them so am holding out hope that their handling improves as they get 'worn in'.
I just swapped P-Zero summers out for DWS06+ A/S tires on my wagon and the steering/driving feel of the car changed dramatically. The car on feels floaty and not nearly as planted, inspiring very little confidence at faster speeds, especially when going through even light highway cornering. Google tells me that tires have a 'break-in' period of 500 miles and that this problem should go away. Was any of this similar to your experience with the DWS06+? While road noise is greatly improved vs. Pzeros, the impact to handling is a big negative in my book. However, I only have ~200 miles on them so am holding out hope that their handling improves as they get 'worn in'.
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Thank you both. I did expect overall traction to be less with the A/S tires vs. the summers but the magnitude of difference was way larger than previous experiences I've had (on other cars) going from summers to A/S tires. Around turns, the DWS06s seem to have pretty significant tire squirm, I've read about the tires softer sidewalls but was just surprised at how noticeable it was. Am hoping that wearing them in helps alleviate the issue. If not, then I might tap Conti's 60d warranty to swap to their PS4s equivalent, but really hoping I just grow to love the DWS06 as is.
By the way, what tire pressure (psi) do you both run? Installer had them at 50-55 psi. I put them down to 44 front / 40 rear almost immediately, which did help some.
By the way, what tire pressure (psi) do you both run? Installer had them at 50-55 psi. I put them down to 44 front / 40 rear almost immediately, which did help some.
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Thank you both. I did expect overall traction to be less with the A/S tires vs. the summers but the magnitude of difference was way larger than previous experiences I've had (on other cars) going from summers to A/S tires. Around turns, the DWS06s seem to have pretty significant tire squirm, I've read about the tires softer sidewalls but was just surprised at how noticeable it was. Am hoping that wearing them in helps alleviate the issue. If not, then I might tap Conti's 60d warranty to swap to their PS4s equivalent, but really hoping I just grow to love the DWS06 as is.
By the way, what tire pressure (psi) do you both run? Installer had them at 50-55 psi. I put them down to 44 front / 40 rear almost immediately, which did help some.
By the way, what tire pressure (psi) do you both run? Installer had them at 50-55 psi. I put them down to 44 front / 40 rear almost immediately, which did help some.
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