Modifcations to 2023 E63S
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Modifcations to 2023 E63S
What's up everyone -
This is my first time posting here but I have spent a lot of time reading through this forum and appreciate all of the wisdom.
I just picked up my dream car - a new 2023 E63S sedan. Coming from an E53 (also facelifted W213), I somewhat knew what to expect in many aspects. But the 63S has still managed to exceed most all of my expectations and I'm thrilled with it.
It's a brilliant machine, but I wouldn't mind exploring the possibility of making some modifications to enhance the sound, performance and overall experience of the vehicle as well as to really make it my own if that makes sense.
I'm very much a noob when it comes to aftermarket tuning/modifications. If anyone could provide some guidance as far as what companies or products I could look into, that would be incredibly appreciated.
I've always thought it would be awesome to invest in a really high-quality aftermarket exhaust system. Would this be an appropriate place to start? What are some of the best options available for this?
Thanks to everybody, in advance, for your time and wisdom. I look forward to your responses.
-Derz
This is my first time posting here but I have spent a lot of time reading through this forum and appreciate all of the wisdom.
I just picked up my dream car - a new 2023 E63S sedan. Coming from an E53 (also facelifted W213), I somewhat knew what to expect in many aspects. But the 63S has still managed to exceed most all of my expectations and I'm thrilled with it.
It's a brilliant machine, but I wouldn't mind exploring the possibility of making some modifications to enhance the sound, performance and overall experience of the vehicle as well as to really make it my own if that makes sense.
I'm very much a noob when it comes to aftermarket tuning/modifications. If anyone could provide some guidance as far as what companies or products I could look into, that would be incredibly appreciated.
I've always thought it would be awesome to invest in a really high-quality aftermarket exhaust system. Would this be an appropriate place to start? What are some of the best options available for this?
Thanks to everybody, in advance, for your time and wisdom. I look forward to your responses.
-Derz
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As a brand new owner too, I would love to start messing with this car especially opening up the exhaust but all my mods will be visual and subtle for now. Already did blacked out badges, wrap over chrome trim etc.
I value the warranty more over the mods at this point in my life and the engine will unfortunately stay stock
I value the warranty more over the mods at this point in my life and the engine will unfortunately stay stock
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Lower it. This is the easiest platform to have moar low and have it back to stock with a press of a button. Options are:
1. Flash module
2. Lowering links
3. In line stealth module
Option three offers the most compatibility ease and options for MBUX albeit cost the most. I’ve tried all three in various platforms and option two and three on the W213 and would have chosen option three first if I had the chance.
Also, spacers do lots to make it look the part. I also have a Cete exhaust module waiting to be installed but with the inclimate weather it may have to wait.
1. Flash module
2. Lowering links
3. In line stealth module
Option three offers the most compatibility ease and options for MBUX albeit cost the most. I’ve tried all three in various platforms and option two and three on the W213 and would have chosen option three first if I had the chance.
Also, spacers do lots to make it look the part. I also have a Cete exhaust module waiting to be installed but with the inclimate weather it may have to wait.
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2023 E63S AMG - Grey Magno
Lower it. This is the easiest platform to have moar low and have it back to stock with a press of a button. Options are:
1. Flash module
2. Lowering links
3. In line stealth module
Option three offers the most compatibility ease and options for MBUX albeit cost the most. I’ve tried all three in various platforms and option two and three on the W213 and would have chosen option three first if I had the chance.
Also, spacers do lots to make it look the part. I also have a Cete exhaust module waiting to be installed but with the inclimate weather it may have to wait.
1. Flash module
2. Lowering links
3. In line stealth module
Option three offers the most compatibility ease and options for MBUX albeit cost the most. I’ve tried all three in various platforms and option two and three on the W213 and would have chosen option three first if I had the chance.
Also, spacers do lots to make it look the part. I also have a Cete exhaust module waiting to be installed but with the inclimate weather it may have to wait.
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2023 E63s Sedan, 2020 E53 Sedan
I also have a 2023 E63s Sedan but coming from a pre-FL E53. What I've done is: full body PPF, black badges, black wrap over chrome, tint, exhaust valve controller (leave it open 100% all the time.) I've also gotten it tuned ECU/TCU/CPC. So I am concerned about warranty a bit, but I couldn't not try to optimize performance in such a fun car.
Like others have said, lowering is reversible (I haven't done lowering -- at least not yet.) As for exhaust valve controller, I don't think they'll put up much of a fuss for warranty purposes (others, pls correct me if I'm wrong.)
I do think if you get even just a software tune, if you're getting powertrain work done, they'll either catch it and not honour the warranty for it, or they'll end up re-flashing it and you'll lose the tune. So if you DO get a tune, make sure you know how to restore stock settings (or taking it back to garage) before bringing it back to dealership for any powertrain work.
P.S. They can also tell if you've flashed it due to a flash counter, although I've heard that's circumventable, but I have no idea if that'strue or not.
Like others have said, lowering is reversible (I haven't done lowering -- at least not yet.) As for exhaust valve controller, I don't think they'll put up much of a fuss for warranty purposes (others, pls correct me if I'm wrong.)
I do think if you get even just a software tune, if you're getting powertrain work done, they'll either catch it and not honour the warranty for it, or they'll end up re-flashing it and you'll lose the tune. So if you DO get a tune, make sure you know how to restore stock settings (or taking it back to garage) before bringing it back to dealership for any powertrain work.
P.S. They can also tell if you've flashed it due to a flash counter, although I've heard that's circumventable, but I have no idea if that'strue or not.
Last edited by LMinn; Nov 1, 2023 at 07:58 AM. Reason: Warning re: flash counter
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What's up everyone -
This is my first time posting here but I have spent a lot of time reading through this forum and appreciate all of the wisdom.
I just picked up my dream car - a new 2023 E63S sedan. Coming from an E53 (also facelifted W213), I somewhat knew what to expect in many aspects. But the 63S has still managed to exceed most all of my expectations and I'm thrilled with it.
It's a brilliant machine, but I wouldn't mind exploring the possibility of making some modifications to enhance the sound, performance and overall experience of the vehicle as well as to really make it my own if that makes sense.
I'm very much a noob when it comes to aftermarket tuning/modifications. If anyone could provide some guidance as far as what companies or products I could look into, that would be incredibly appreciated.
I've always thought it would be awesome to invest in a really high-quality aftermarket exhaust system. Would this be an appropriate place to start? What are some of the best options available for this?
Thanks to everybody, in advance, for your time and wisdom. I look forward to your responses.
-Derz
This is my first time posting here but I have spent a lot of time reading through this forum and appreciate all of the wisdom.
I just picked up my dream car - a new 2023 E63S sedan. Coming from an E53 (also facelifted W213), I somewhat knew what to expect in many aspects. But the 63S has still managed to exceed most all of my expectations and I'm thrilled with it.
It's a brilliant machine, but I wouldn't mind exploring the possibility of making some modifications to enhance the sound, performance and overall experience of the vehicle as well as to really make it my own if that makes sense.
I'm very much a noob when it comes to aftermarket tuning/modifications. If anyone could provide some guidance as far as what companies or products I could look into, that would be incredibly appreciated.
I've always thought it would be awesome to invest in a really high-quality aftermarket exhaust system. Would this be an appropriate place to start? What are some of the best options available for this?
Thanks to everybody, in advance, for your time and wisdom. I look forward to your responses.
-Derz
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As for exhaust valve controller, I don't think they'll put up much of a fuss for warranty purposes (others, pls correct me if I'm wrong.)
I do think if you get even just a software tune, if you're getting powertrain work done, they'll either catch it and not honour the warranty for it, or they'll end up re-flashing it and you'll lose the tune.
I do think if you get even just a software tune, if you're getting powertrain work done, they'll either catch it and not honour the warranty for it, or they'll end up re-flashing it and you'll lose the tune.
Some dealers are in fact blacklisting any cars that have had the ECU modified with (they have a bit set that is usually in the encrypted portion of the ECU) which is changed when any flashing happens. Bosch has been at the forefront of security for their ECU/ECM development for a while (20+ years and counting). So keep that in mind if warranty is of concern.
Also of note, my ED1 is at 133k miles. no power mods.
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I also have a 2023 E63s Sedan but coming from a pre-FL E53. What I've done is: full body PPF, black badges, black wrap over chrome, tint, exhaust valve controller (leave it open 100% all the time.) I've also gotten it tuned ECU/TCU/CPC. So I am concerned about warranty a bit, but I couldn't not try to optimize performance in such a fun car.
Like others have said, lowering is reversible (I haven't done lowering -- at least not yet.) As for exhaust valve controller, I don't think they'll put up much of a fuss for warranty purposes (others, pls correct me if I'm wrong.)
I do think if you get even just a software tune, if you're getting powertrain work done, they'll either catch it and not honour the warranty for it, or they'll end up re-flashing it and you'll lose the tune. So if you DO get a tune, make sure you know how to restore stock settings (or taking it back to garage) before bringing it back to dealership for any powertrain work.
P.S. They can also tell if you've flashed it due to a flash counter, although I've heard that's circumventable, but I have no idea if that'strue or not.
Like others have said, lowering is reversible (I haven't done lowering -- at least not yet.) As for exhaust valve controller, I don't think they'll put up much of a fuss for warranty purposes (others, pls correct me if I'm wrong.)
I do think if you get even just a software tune, if you're getting powertrain work done, they'll either catch it and not honour the warranty for it, or they'll end up re-flashing it and you'll lose the tune. So if you DO get a tune, make sure you know how to restore stock settings (or taking it back to garage) before bringing it back to dealership for any powertrain work.
P.S. They can also tell if you've flashed it due to a flash counter, although I've heard that's circumventable, but I have no idea if that'strue or not.
To OP, I've done quite a bit to my E63 although 99% of it subtle. With regards to your exhaust, most of the sound deadening is "upstream" in the downpipes. You have two sets of cats that are killing the sound, and the factory exhaust is actually very good "downstream". There are two things you can do to get more sound: 1. as previously noted an Exhaust Valve Module (I have the ASR) 2. Downpipes. Downpipes are going to make the car scream, but will also void your powertrain warranty instantly. For now, I might enjoy the car with an EVM and then move on to more extreme measures as you go.
Definitely lower it. I understand that with facelifted MBUX cars this can no longer be done with an OBD module.
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You mileage may vary and it is dealer dependent.
Some dealers are in fact blacklisting any cars that have had the ECU modified with (they have a bit set that is usually in the encrypted portion of the ECU) which is changed when any flashing happens. Bosch has been at the forefront of security for their ECU/ECM development for a while (20+ years and counting). So keep that in mind if warranty is of concern.
Also of note, my ED1 is at 133k miles. no power mods.
Some dealers are in fact blacklisting any cars that have had the ECU modified with (they have a bit set that is usually in the encrypted portion of the ECU) which is changed when any flashing happens. Bosch has been at the forefront of security for their ECU/ECM development for a while (20+ years and counting). So keep that in mind if warranty is of concern.
Also of note, my ED1 is at 133k miles. no power mods.
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None, just maintenance and tires. Also just replaced all the CCB pads on all 4 corners. 3 of the CCB rotors are still good with one starting to show some slght wear (Right Rear) but nothing to worry about replacing. The m177 is a closed deck block and the bores are hard as heck so I do not see the engine giving me any issues save if there is oil leak due to RMS (keep an eye but nothing has increased). Also i do drive it in the cold/snow! :o
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As a brand new owner too, I would love to start messing with this car especially opening up the exhaust but all my mods will be visual and subtle for now. Already did blacked out badges, wrap over chrome trim etc.
I value the warranty more over the mods at this point in my life and the engine will unfortunately stay stock
I value the warranty more over the mods at this point in my life and the engine will unfortunately stay stock
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Congrats on your purchase.....the E63s is a beautiful machine and is really the best daily you will ever own...it's super fast V8 AMG power-plant...pure luxury...and has the nicest interior!!
If you are looking for more sound and keeping the reliability I would just say get an air intake, and DP's and you will love the boost in power and the exhaust sound with more pops and bangs and keep the reliability.
Unless that is not enough for you then get a reliable tune for easily extra 100hp gain.
Other mod is a must is the lowering module for $590 USD and you can lower your car more in seconds using the big screen!!! Enjoy there is lots of mods for this beast with lots of good information here.
If you are looking for more sound and keeping the reliability I would just say get an air intake, and DP's and you will love the boost in power and the exhaust sound with more pops and bangs and keep the reliability.
Unless that is not enough for you then get a reliable tune for easily extra 100hp gain.
Other mod is a must is the lowering module for $590 USD and you can lower your car more in seconds using the big screen!!! Enjoy there is lots of mods for this beast with lots of good information here.
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Get the lowering module to dial in ride height to your desire on the fly, ECU/CPC tune puts these cars in a nice power/tq bracket while being reliable, and the CPC will allow you to keep valves open 100% of the time for the more sound problem.
You could also do catless downpipes if you really want to uncork the 4.0.
You could also do catless downpipes if you really want to uncork the 4.0.
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You'll hear a lot about warranty and tunes. Typically dealers will ignore tunes (hear no evil, see no evil). However if you have a major event, IE an engine failure, they will check and you can be sure that MB will deny any warranty repair. There was a member here a while back that had a tune and got into a pissing contest with the dealer. Ended up being black listed by MB - all warranty claims denied. Just be aware that mods basically mean you're taking the risk and MB no longer is. Before you do a tune price out a complete engine replacement and then decide if it is worth it to you.
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Not really, the valves open further dependent on revs, I can't remember the exact numbers but I think 100% is at around 5k rpm's. That's way too high dog. I want them open at idle.
