Thinking about a 2019 E53
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Thinking about a 2019 E53
Hi.
Looking to returning to AMG, I'm checking a 2019 E53 Cabrio, obsidian black with red roof. Just 25K miles, well maintained. Can't see the packages at lastvin.
The issues with the 48V were resolved? Any other item i need to check?
Thanks.
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Looking to returning to AMG, I'm checking a 2019 E53 Cabrio, obsidian black with red roof. Just 25K miles, well maintained. Can't see the packages at lastvin.
The issues with the 48V were resolved? Any other item i need to check?
Thanks.
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Read the e53 topics heavily covered in the sticky
posts 18,57,101-103
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...fixes-diy.html
posts 18,57,101-103
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...fixes-diy.html
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Given that a lot of owners are getting melted wiring harnesses though, i would definitely stick with warranty. Maybe even an extended warranty.
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And finally my family has owned a GLS 450 (moms car) where it’s actually ran very issue free for 80k miles, it had a fair share of recalls but after they were done the car has been very very nice and safe to drive. You will see a lot of negativity for the engine on these forums but honestly the 48v also carries its own longevity to the table, puts less stress on the engine to start/stop. If I were you definitely join the 53 owners club. (but don’t get a gle53.)
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See??? Same here on this little chat. Or is super good or trash. I was looking a 2020 C63s, also a 2017 AMG GTs. The 2019 E53 is around $25-30k cheaper. And the cabrio looks very good. Also less mileage.
What kind of person I am? Well currently I’m on a Land Rover Discovery 5 TD6. Maybe one of the worst nightmare for some… first diesel for me. After a new DPF and some other parts lol… is running beautifully. Before that I purchased a LR3, that I hated and just move away in 3 months. Past cars: 2005 E55, 2009 C63, 2012 Lotus Evora, 2012 SLK55, Cayman, Mini, X1, even the first 2019 Audi Etron. Sometimes you win sometimes you loose and exchange the car.
I’m just looking for a DD and weekend fun car. Almost bought a 2021 GLA45, and 2017 Macan Turbo PP.
Do we understand the V8 M177 is more reliable that this new 53 engine?
Thanks for the support and advice!
What kind of person I am? Well currently I’m on a Land Rover Discovery 5 TD6. Maybe one of the worst nightmare for some… first diesel for me. After a new DPF and some other parts lol… is running beautifully. Before that I purchased a LR3, that I hated and just move away in 3 months. Past cars: 2005 E55, 2009 C63, 2012 Lotus Evora, 2012 SLK55, Cayman, Mini, X1, even the first 2019 Audi Etron. Sometimes you win sometimes you loose and exchange the car.
I’m just looking for a DD and weekend fun car. Almost bought a 2021 GLA45, and 2017 Macan Turbo PP.
Do we understand the V8 M177 is more reliable that this new 53 engine?
Thanks for the support and advice!
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See??? Same here on this little chat. Or is super good or trash. I was looking a 2020 C63s, also a 2017 AMG GTs. The 2019 E53 is around $25-30k cheaper. And the cabrio looks very good. Also less mileage.
What kind of person I am? Well currently I’m on a Land Rover Discovery 5 TD6. Maybe one of the worst nightmare for some… first diesel for me. After a new DPF and some other parts lol… is running beautifully. Before that I purchased a LR3, that I hated and just move away in 3 months. Past cars: 2005 E55, 2009 C63, 2012 Lotus Evora, 2012 SLK55, Cayman, Mini, X1, even the first 2019 Audi Etron. Sometimes you win sometimes you loose and exchange the car.
I’m just looking for a DD and weekend fun car. Almost bought a 2021 GLA45, and 2017 Macan Turbo PP.
Do we understand the V8 M177 is more reliable that this new 53 engine?
Thanks for the support and advice!
What kind of person I am? Well currently I’m on a Land Rover Discovery 5 TD6. Maybe one of the worst nightmare for some… first diesel for me. After a new DPF and some other parts lol… is running beautifully. Before that I purchased a LR3, that I hated and just move away in 3 months. Past cars: 2005 E55, 2009 C63, 2012 Lotus Evora, 2012 SLK55, Cayman, Mini, X1, even the first 2019 Audi Etron. Sometimes you win sometimes you loose and exchange the car.
I’m just looking for a DD and weekend fun car. Almost bought a 2021 GLA45, and 2017 Macan Turbo PP.
Do we understand the V8 M177 is more reliable that this new 53 engine?
Thanks for the support and advice!
the m177 is more reliable over all than the e53... yes. The biggest issue with the m177 is the OVS/RMS, see sticky. Plus is more fun and a purist car - great for your weekend thrills.
a new 48v Mercedes is more reliable than a used 48v Mercedes as there have been some updates. Beware the burned harnesses in the m256 e53
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...tuned-cpc.html
https://en.mercedesassistance.com/misfire-in-engine/
look at some used e63's and take one for a spin
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What year? There are a 2018 ($60k) and 2020 ($75k) available around. And a 2016 GTs with a lot of aftermarket parts (mechanic baby) for $75k.
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this helps
the m177 is more reliable over all than the e53... yes. The biggest issue with the m177 is the OVS/RMS, see sticky. Plus is more fun and a purist car - great for your weekend thrills.
a new 48v Mercedes is more reliable than a used 48v Mercedes as there have been some updates. Beware the burned harnesses in the m256 e53
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...tuned-cpc.html
https://en.mercedesassistance.com/misfire-in-engine/
look at some used e63's and take one for a spin
the m177 is more reliable over all than the e53... yes. The biggest issue with the m177 is the OVS/RMS, see sticky. Plus is more fun and a purist car - great for your weekend thrills.
a new 48v Mercedes is more reliable than a used 48v Mercedes as there have been some updates. Beware the burned harnesses in the m256 e53
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...tuned-cpc.html
https://en.mercedesassistance.com/misfire-in-engine/
look at some used e63's and take one for a spin
the average cosmopolitan buyer of the m256 for 450 and 53 cars isnt going on forums to discuss DIYing, best guess, and also my best observation.
But I would agree go get a new 48v. M176s that have it are pretty good in terms of borderline no issues at all. (580 GLS and S classes)
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m177 might just have more documentation than the m256 - i get that the m177 has less failure points and the ones that it has are more understood, but i would guess that the m256 just attracts less enthusiasts and therefore only what goes wrong is discussed and talked about
the average cosmopolitan buyer of the m256 for 450 and 53 cars isnt going on forums to discuss DIYing, best guess, and also my best observation.
But I would agree go get a new 48v. M176s that have it are pretty good in terms of borderline no issues at all. (580 GLS and S classes)
the average cosmopolitan buyer of the m256 for 450 and 53 cars isnt going on forums to discuss DIYing, best guess, and also my best observation.
But I would agree go get a new 48v. M176s that have it are pretty good in terms of borderline no issues at all. (580 GLS and S classes)
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m177 might just have more documentation than the m256 - i get that the m177 has less failure points and the ones that it has are more understood, but i would guess that the m256 just attracts less enthusiasts and therefore only what goes wrong is discussed and talked about
the average cosmopolitan buyer of the m256 for 450 and 53 cars isnt going on forums to discuss DIYing, best guess, and also my best observation.
But I would agree go get a new 48v. M176s that have it are pretty good in terms of borderline no issues at all. (580 GLS and S classes)
the average cosmopolitan buyer of the m256 for 450 and 53 cars isnt going on forums to discuss DIYing, best guess, and also my best observation.
But I would agree go get a new 48v. M176s that have it are pretty good in terms of borderline no issues at all. (580 GLS and S classes)
A well documented m177/8 engine vs your speculation/guess on why a lack of input online re: m256 issues and routine ownership experience; I hear you
it is what it is; I just recommend getting a warranty if you're risk averse and still want an e53. I'm sure it's a great car
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yea but im on the same page would not get this without warranty
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Thanks!!!!!
I will check what warranty is available!
Then te recommendation is:
if E53 then 2021 year and ahead
if C63s up to 2020.
I will check what warranty is available!
Then te recommendation is:
if E53 then 2021 year and ahead
if C63s up to 2020.
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