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Old May 19, 2025 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Found the proper procedure I was looking for: https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...918d1500297621
Page 9 "Summer Opening and Convenience Closing
With KEYLESS-GO
Press and hold your finger on the ‘lock’ sensor on the door handle for 5 seconds.
Then, continuously pull on the door handle and the windows/sunroof will open. This
will also activate the ventilated seats if equipped"
For some reason, on the 213 that doesn't open the sunroof.
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Old May 19, 2025 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by whoover
For some reason, on the 213 that doesn't open the sunroof.
I also noticed this was not mentioned at all in the W213 DOG, which is strange, I mean if C-Class gets a feature E-Class should had got it first.
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Old May 19, 2025 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TugboatBill
In the Corvette it is like this. Drive to restaurant. Car is outside in the sun for 3 hours. From inside the restaurant while paying press the remote unlock 3X. Windows roll down. By the time I get to the car it has cooled off enough it is no longer a furnace to enter. Obviously there are security considerations, but as long as it is in sight and if someone gets to close then just press lock 3X and up go the windows and the doors are locked. All this can happen when you're 100' away.
Comparatively, the MB method to the Corvette is like driving a Prius vs a E63S.
You can remotely open the windows (well, via the app though) in Europe but it seems to be disabled in the mbusa market for some reason.

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Old May 19, 2025 | 05:58 PM
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For a while I could remote start but that seemed to be problematical as I would be somewhere and when I'd go to remote start - voila! time to log in again and what was that password? was it X? was it Y? forget it, let's go. Being able to do something from the remote is super convenient and avoids all the unlock screen, open app, enter login, enter password, blah, blah, blah nonsense.
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Old May 19, 2025 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TugboatBill
For a while I could remote start but that seemed to be problematical as I would be somewhere and when I'd go to remote start - voila! time to log in again and what was that password? was it X? was it Y? forget it, let's go. Being able to do something from the remote is super convenient and avoids all the unlock screen, open app, enter login, enter password, blah, blah, blah nonsense.
Usually you can save biometrics login as an option. That said, I do understand you want physical remote start, the other German brand I heard that has it built in the keyfob is bmw.
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Old May 19, 2025 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
I also noticed this was not mentioned at all in the W213 DOG, which is strange, I mean if C-Class gets a feature E-Class should had got it first.
Weirdly, convenience opening via the door handle is not described in the manual, although it works. Convenience closing with the handle is documented.
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Old May 19, 2025 | 07:15 PM
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I'm pretty certain on my 2023 I need to press and hold.
I will try it and report back.

In other news, drivers dynamic bolster keeps turning off. Passenger bolster does not turn off. So when I have a new passenger and they say "You're car is hugging me!" I remember about my seat and go turn it back on. Driver side turns off randomly and I do not know why.
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Old May 19, 2025 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by whoover
Weirdly, convenience opening via the door handle is not described in the manual, although it works. Convenience closing with the handle is documented.
and it doesn't open the sunroof for the E-Class you mentioned, which is very strange.
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Old May 19, 2025 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
I'm pretty certain on my 2023 I need to press and hold.
I will try it and report back.

In other news, drivers dynamic bolster keeps turning off. Passenger bolster does not turn off. So when I have a new passenger and they say "You're car is hugging me!" I remember about my seat and go turn it back on. Driver side turns off randomly and I do not know why.
That will be strange, my family member's 2019 E Coupe is press and hold for 1 second and you can release then it goes automatically to the set position, on prior years or in my C-Class at least, you have to hold it for the entire duration.
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Old May 21, 2025 | 11:33 AM
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so in my opinion (this is just a guess based on what transpired)

the E63s was late to the party (Edition 1) and when they dropped it, it was still using some ole (read w212) modules for some items. The initial batch of W213 had old modules (left over) and new modules.

Hence why on some items it is old tech but others it matches the FL W213.

Like infotainment control, again guessing here but that is why a "retrofit" module is needed as W212 was using either LIN or a slower rate of CANBus, and for sake of technical clarity, once the canbus is running at say 500Kb/s, you cannot put a device that runs at 1Mb/S or 250Kb/s as it will not work properly (read ghost signals or slow response) and the newer ones more than likely went to full rate canbus (1Mb/S).

That is off course just a guess as i am in in the middle of getting a hold of a WIS to see if my assumption is true.
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Old May 21, 2025 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by figuwx
so in my opinion (this is just a guess based on what transpired)

the E63s was late to the party (Edition 1) and when they dropped it, it was still using some ole (read w212) modules for some items. The initial batch of W213 had old modules (left over) and new modules.

Hence why on some items it is old tech but others it matches the FL W213.

Like infotainment control, again guessing here but that is why a "retrofit" module is needed as W212 was using either LIN or a slower rate of CANBus, and for sake of technical clarity, once the canbus is running at say 500Kb/s, you cannot put a device that runs at 1Mb/S or 250Kb/s as it will not work properly (read ghost signals or slow response) and the newer ones more than likely went to full rate canbus (1Mb/S).

That is off course just a guess as i am in in the middle of getting a hold of a WIS to see if my assumption is true.
That is super interesting, I like your thinking.
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Old May 21, 2025 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
I'm pretty certain on my 2023 I need to press and hold.
I will try it and report back.

In other news, drivers dynamic bolster keeps turning off. Passenger bolster does not turn off. So when I have a new passenger and they say "You're car is hugging me!" I remember about my seat and go turn it back on. Driver side turns off randomly and I do not know why.
Did you have a chance to confirm?
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Old May 21, 2025 | 12:57 PM
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So I went to test my E53 AMG and moved the seat around and when I pushed the seat button just once, the seat adjusted to my settings.
I also tried this in wife's 2014 GLK and I had to hold the seat button to get it to my settings. I also tried this in our 2016 B-Class and noticed that I also had to hold the button to set it to my seat settings.

So only in my E53 I can push the seat button once.
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Old May 21, 2025 | 01:00 PM
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So I think things changed in the 2020 +MY (built 2019).

I lack WIS or diagrams to decipher but hopefully i can get my hands on WIS as i need it to decipher signal routing in a bunch of different MB cars.
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Old May 21, 2025 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosworth2000
So I went to test my E53 AMG and moved the seat around and when I pushed the seat button just once, the seat adjusted to my settings.
I also tried this in wife's 2014 GLK and I had to hold the seat button to get it to my settings. I also tried this in our 2016 B-Class and noticed that I also had to hold the button to set it to my seat settings.

So only in my E53 I can push the seat button once.
It does seem to confirm that 2019+ and including model year vehicles is one touch and auto adjust. now I mentioned, my family member's 2019 E 450 coupe also auto adjusts.
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Old May 21, 2025 | 07:05 PM
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Note the same seat control module fits E63 of all years, and other models from 1995-2026. It also requires flashing to perform per that model's behavior.

I think that there was a drawn-out safety review that didn't complete in time. When one-tap got approved, a new flash file implemented it.

https://www.mercedesbenz.parts/oem-p...QvjWKiAKtjts3L

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Old May 21, 2025 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by whoover
Note the same seat control module fits E63 of all years, and other models from 1995-2026. It also requires flashing to perform per that model's behavior.

I think that there was a drawn-out safety review that didn't complete in time. When one-tap got approved, a new flash file implemented it.

https://www.mercedesbenz.parts/oem-p...QvjWKiAKtjts3L
Thanks for the link, seems like it might be a difficult spot to get to.
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