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scoobyalty-BEWARE
07-12-2013, 09:25 AM
#1
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Thread Starter
scoobyalty-BEWARE
Hey everyone,
Over past 3 weeks I had an unfortunate accident with purchasing fake
wheels from a seller that is listed on our forum. And I thought that I
should warn other guys on so they would not do same mistake I did and
loose considerable chunk of money.
So here is the thing, we have this posting from scoobyalty, who
claimed that wheels were real and “not some cheap knock- offs”.
https://mbworld.org/forums/wheels-ti...month-old.html
So I talked to the seller, we agreed at price and I wired him money
via paypal. Several days letter I receive these wheels and the first
thing I notice was the fact that these wheels do not look like
original at all. So what I did is- I contacted PayPal to immediately
start a claim about counterfeit product that was sold to me (
unfortunately that been going on since the beginning of June, and up
to now there is no resolution, Paypal asks you to submit tons of
paperwork and apparently they are so swamped up with work, they do not
have enough case officers to look into case promptly- I was told case
revewing might take more than a month and there is not a certain
timeframe- hey, so much for promised buyer protection with Paypal-
ironic huh?). So right now I am stuck with those fake wheels that I am
afraid to put on my car- safety is more important for me and I would
not risk putting fake knock- offs. Other thing is that I AM OUT OF $
1200. These money are stuck with paypal who apparently takes such a
long time deciding if to grant this money back to me since it was a
counterfeit sale . I mean I am stuck with the fake wheels in my
garage, that take space, but paypal is stating that they do not
authorize me to send those fake wheels back to the seller ( you think
this would be an easy case- send back fakes, receive my hard earn
money back and be done with that? – no!). So while Paypal thinking if
this is a counterfeit and what to do with that, I am out $1200 big
ones, upset and angry, pretty much.
Oh, and I did contact the original manufacturer of Incurve wheel- who
did confirmed that those were fake. So how do you know the wheels are
fake? Apparently very easy –the front wheels center cap area, the
fakes have a much more "recessed" cap area than the real ones, not to
mention the mercedes caps, not incurve caps.
So here it is, beware of seller- scoobyalty. Apparently he is in the
business of selling fakes, I had so much headache, fuss and paperwork
that I have to submit with Paypal- it been a real nightmare!
Especially the fact that Paypal customer service is not in US, but
India- so there is not even a live case reviewing officer that you can
talk to, only call answering reps that sure are not very helpful.
Be careful when purchasing used wheels, and always check with the
manufacturer first on the subject of authenticity.
Over past 3 weeks I had an unfortunate accident with purchasing fake
wheels from a seller that is listed on our forum. And I thought that I
should warn other guys on so they would not do same mistake I did and
loose considerable chunk of money.
So here is the thing, we have this posting from scoobyalty, who
claimed that wheels were real and “not some cheap knock- offs”.
https://mbworld.org/forums/wheels-ti...month-old.html
So I talked to the seller, we agreed at price and I wired him money
via paypal. Several days letter I receive these wheels and the first
thing I notice was the fact that these wheels do not look like
original at all. So what I did is- I contacted PayPal to immediately
start a claim about counterfeit product that was sold to me (
unfortunately that been going on since the beginning of June, and up
to now there is no resolution, Paypal asks you to submit tons of
paperwork and apparently they are so swamped up with work, they do not
have enough case officers to look into case promptly- I was told case
revewing might take more than a month and there is not a certain
timeframe- hey, so much for promised buyer protection with Paypal-
ironic huh?). So right now I am stuck with those fake wheels that I am
afraid to put on my car- safety is more important for me and I would
not risk putting fake knock- offs. Other thing is that I AM OUT OF $
1200. These money are stuck with paypal who apparently takes such a
long time deciding if to grant this money back to me since it was a
counterfeit sale . I mean I am stuck with the fake wheels in my
garage, that take space, but paypal is stating that they do not
authorize me to send those fake wheels back to the seller ( you think
this would be an easy case- send back fakes, receive my hard earn
money back and be done with that? – no!). So while Paypal thinking if
this is a counterfeit and what to do with that, I am out $1200 big
ones, upset and angry, pretty much.
Oh, and I did contact the original manufacturer of Incurve wheel- who
did confirmed that those were fake. So how do you know the wheels are
fake? Apparently very easy –the front wheels center cap area, the
fakes have a much more "recessed" cap area than the real ones, not to
mention the mercedes caps, not incurve caps.
So here it is, beware of seller- scoobyalty. Apparently he is in the
business of selling fakes, I had so much headache, fuss and paperwork
that I have to submit with Paypal- it been a real nightmare!
Especially the fact that Paypal customer service is not in US, but
India- so there is not even a live case reviewing officer that you can
talk to, only call answering reps that sure are not very helpful.
Be careful when purchasing used wheels, and always check with the
manufacturer first on the subject of authenticity.
07-13-2013, 09:39 AM
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Wow . So this guy sent you wheels and his account is set up threw paypal ? With paypal I know there is a 14day window to file a claim. And always have your paypal to your American express card so you have 2 ways to dispute.
How long did the wheels take to get after you paid for them?
Please post a photo of these fake wheels. Sorry to hear of this and hope everything works out.
not that your going to need another set but i have a set strait from incurve i can blow out to you for but they are gun metal gray . 20s with 24 offset in front and 30 in rear
to everyone buying wheels always pay attention to offsets, replicas are usually wronge offsets or same front and rear those are dead give aways ...
How long did the wheels take to get after you paid for them?
Please post a photo of these fake wheels. Sorry to hear of this and hope everything works out.
not that your going to need another set but i have a set strait from incurve i can blow out to you for but they are gun metal gray . 20s with 24 offset in front and 30 in rear
to everyone buying wheels always pay attention to offsets, replicas are usually wronge offsets or same front and rear those are dead give aways ...
Last edited by CLSED550; 07-13-2013 at 10:55 AM.
07-13-2013, 07:25 PM
#4
Super Member
Thread Starter
Hey, CLSED550,
I paid for wheels with paypal and they arrive in a couple of days, once received, I have immediately filed a claim with paypal. I paid paypal through my American express cc. so yes, you are right, there are 2 ways to dispute, Amex has 60 day window from the date of purchase. But here is a trick, you can't file dispute with both( paypal and Amex at the same time), since this would entitle you to double recover and it is against company policy. So if I would file the claim with both, paypal would deny it( so I was told) and I would only have option to pursue my claim via Amex.
So currently I am still waiting on the asnwer from paypal and it has been more than a month, and still ongoing process.
The pictures of the fake wheels are in the original posting of the add by scoobyalty,
https://mbworld.org/forums/wheels-ti...month-old.html
I paid for wheels with paypal and they arrive in a couple of days, once received, I have immediately filed a claim with paypal. I paid paypal through my American express cc. so yes, you are right, there are 2 ways to dispute, Amex has 60 day window from the date of purchase. But here is a trick, you can't file dispute with both( paypal and Amex at the same time), since this would entitle you to double recover and it is against company policy. So if I would file the claim with both, paypal would deny it( so I was told) and I would only have option to pursue my claim via Amex.
So currently I am still waiting on the asnwer from paypal and it has been more than a month, and still ongoing process.
The pictures of the fake wheels are in the original posting of the add by scoobyalty,
https://mbworld.org/forums/wheels-ti...month-old.html
08-02-2013, 03:41 PM
#6
Super Member
Thread Starter
Hey everyone,
I finally got results on my resolution case with purchasing fake wheels from Benjamin Altonen aka scoobyalty . Here are details - it might be useful for someone in the future perhaps. So few days ago PayPal finally decides in my favor and saying that I should send those fake wheels back, and once they are back I will get my money back. So I did send them with FedEx with delivery confirmation of course. Got the money back from PayPal- but to my lost i had to pay almost $200 for return shipping fees, which i dont think seller would offer to reimburse me for.
So i thought to myself- Benjamin aka scoobyalty - knew initially that those wheels were fake, tried to sell them to me. And when i filed a claim that item is fake, offered to give me a discount- just so I would keep them. I refused. Now when PayPal refunded back my money. Benjamin is trying another scam!!! Now he is trying to claim that he got damaged wheels from me- and this is ridiculous.
Well, you got caught when trying to sell counterfeit. wouldn't this be time to stop, I mean he even got his fake items back- instead of several cases when PayPal orders to destroy fake items- and this
person- Benjamin- is still trying to scam and to get money any way possible by trying to say the items he got are damaged.
Just be aware of this person and never ever do any business with him, as he is just one big scam.
I am fine with PayPal decision, at least I got my 1200 back, but I am out 200 which I had to pay for the return shipping and no one would cover than. I mean- PayPal said I can ask the seller to cover this- but do you think this person would do the right thing? NO- he is trying to scam again.
I finally got results on my resolution case with purchasing fake wheels from Benjamin Altonen aka scoobyalty . Here are details - it might be useful for someone in the future perhaps. So few days ago PayPal finally decides in my favor and saying that I should send those fake wheels back, and once they are back I will get my money back. So I did send them with FedEx with delivery confirmation of course. Got the money back from PayPal- but to my lost i had to pay almost $200 for return shipping fees, which i dont think seller would offer to reimburse me for.
So i thought to myself- Benjamin aka scoobyalty - knew initially that those wheels were fake, tried to sell them to me. And when i filed a claim that item is fake, offered to give me a discount- just so I would keep them. I refused. Now when PayPal refunded back my money. Benjamin is trying another scam!!! Now he is trying to claim that he got damaged wheels from me- and this is ridiculous.
Well, you got caught when trying to sell counterfeit. wouldn't this be time to stop, I mean he even got his fake items back- instead of several cases when PayPal orders to destroy fake items- and this
person- Benjamin- is still trying to scam and to get money any way possible by trying to say the items he got are damaged.
Just be aware of this person and never ever do any business with him, as he is just one big scam.
I am fine with PayPal decision, at least I got my 1200 back, but I am out 200 which I had to pay for the return shipping and no one would cover than. I mean- PayPal said I can ask the seller to cover this- but do you think this person would do the right thing? NO- he is trying to scam again.
