Need to replace my steering angle sensor

rsxnut1 · 09-17-2010, 09:45 PM

ESP light has been on for 2 years now, so I figured its time to fix it. Can I order it online? It looks easy enough, but a DIY would be nice.

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Glyn M Ruck · 09-18-2010, 04:43 AM

RMeuropean usually have stock - could also be ESP module.

Before you do anything -with car running turn steering from lock to lock 5 times to reset the steering angle sensor. Sometimes this is all that's needed.

rsxnut1 · 09-18-2010, 07:29 AM

Thanks, but I already tried that... When I took the car to the stealer for the vacuum leak, the SA noted the ESP message. He said the tech mentioned something about the sensor in the steering wheel. Nothing like a free diagnosis.

Glyn M Ruck · 09-18-2010, 08:26 PM

OK - then fit a new angle sensor.

Norwichdelta06 · 09-18-2010, 09:53 PM

so if that light is on.. Does it mean the ESP has been shut down? And also for 2 years driving without ESP how's that been treating you?

LILBENZ230 · 09-18-2010, 10:42 PM

If it says "ESP Unavailable" in the cluster then ESP is not functioning and will not step in if you get in over your head. The car would drive just like a non-ESP equipped car and you'd never know anything was wrong until you were in an emergency situation. ESP has saved my *** a couple of times.

rsxnut1 · 09-19-2010, 08:07 AM

The message is "ESP Malfunction Visit Workshop... It started during the winter so I went to a parking lot and tested it,

and it functions fine. The steering angle sensor is one of many sensors used to generate a "model" of the slip event. Unfortunately, without that sensor the car doesn't know my exact intent, so I assume the algorithm defaults to a worst-case slip model.

Glyn M Ruck · 09-19-2010, 10:38 AM

There is not a plain yes - no answer to this question. In some situations with the ESP light on it operates on a default map & in other situations the unit is inoperative. Interrogating OBDII data will sometimes give you an indication but without a Star best to test. Different cars give different messages. "ESP Unavailable" should mean it's out of circuit.

If the light is on you will never have optimum ESP operation.

LILBENZ230 · 09-19-2010, 04:43 PM

Interesting. Learn something new everyday.

benzc200k · 09-20-2010, 08:00 AM

when driving in a straight line does your steering wheel stay dead centre? or is it slightly out of line?

When i drove over a gutter with the front, the front wheel went out of alignment causing the steering wheel to stay crooked when driving straight. i got the front wheels re-alligned and did the 5 steering lock from side to side procedure to reset the steering sensor and its all good now.

Glyn M Ruck · 09-20-2010, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LILBENZ230

Interesting. Learn something new everyday.

But your comment was accurate!

maverik259 · 09-20-2010, 09:43 AM

ya my esp error went off last year for a week...took it only to find out that stealership wanted 250 just to find out why it was on exactly...i laughed. then they told my my extended warranty doesnt cover it and it would be 600 to replace. I told them to F off and I left. Light has never come on since...althogh my steering wheel is always pushed slightly to the right even after alignments. so maybe I'll try that reset procedure.

jlelvira · 10-01-2010, 08:19 PM

You can explain as it has done thanks...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck

RMeuropean usually have stock - could also be ESP module.

Before you do anything -with car running turn steering from lock to lock 5 times to reset the steering angle sensor. Sometimes this is all that's needed.

Glyn M Ruck · 10-02-2010, 01:30 PM

We have a slight language problem here - no problem

Are you asking how to do this?

If so - Stop the car on level ground & with the engine running turn the steering wheel from full left to full right 5 times. This will reset the steering angle sensor.

rsxnut · 02-02-2012, 01:50 PM

Well I finally got around to replacing the steering angle sensor (replaced A 169 464 01 18 with A 169 464 11 18). The ESP malfunction message changed to ESP unavailable, then disappeared after lock to lock and a drive down the street!!

LILBENZ230 · 02-02-2012, 02:19 PM

What did it cost ya?

rsxnut · 02-02-2012, 02:45 PM

$277

09-18-2010, 04:43 AM	#2
Glyn M Ruck Super Moderator 1965 Jaguar 3.8 S Type Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 15,859 Drives: late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires	RMeuropean usually have stock - could also be ESP module. Before you do anything -with car running turn steering from lock to lock 5 times to reset the steering angle sensor. Sometimes this is all that's needed. __________________ Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa

09-18-2010, 08:26 PM	#4
Glyn M Ruck Super Moderator 1965 Jaguar 3.8 S Type Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 15,859 Drives: late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires	OK - then fit a new angle sensor. __________________ Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa

09-18-2010, 10:42 PM	#6
LILBENZ230 MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 6,145 Drives: 2011 C300	If it says "ESP Unavailable" in the cluster then ESP is not functioning and will not step in if you get in over your head. The car would drive just like a non-ESP equipped car and you'd never know anything was wrong until you were in an emergency situation. ESP has saved my *** a couple of times. __________________

09-19-2010, 10:38 AM	#8
Glyn M Ruck Super Moderator 1965 Jaguar 3.8 S Type Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 15,859 Drives: late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires	There is not a plain yes - no answer to this question. In some situations with the ESP light on it operates on a default map & in other situations the unit is inoperative. Interrogating OBDII data will sometimes give you an indication but without a Star best to test. Different cars give different messages. "ESP Unavailable" should mean it's out of circuit. If the light is on you will never have optimum ESP operation. __________________ Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; 09-19-2010 at 10:42 AM.

09-19-2010, 04:43 PM	#9
LILBENZ230 MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 6,145 Drives: 2011 C300	Interesting. Learn something new everyday. __________________

09-18-2010, 07:29 AM	#3
rsxnut1 Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Novi MI Posts: 26 Drives: 2005 C230 Sport Sedan	Thanks, but I already tried that... When I took the car to the stealer for the vacuum leak, the SA noted the ESP message. He said the tech mentioned something about the sensor in the steering wheel. Nothing like a free diagnosis.

09-18-2010, 09:53 PM	#5
Norwichdelta06 Super Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 646 Drives: 2007 c230	so if that light is on.. Does it mean the ESP has been shut down? And also for 2 years driving without ESP how's that been treating you?

09-19-2010, 08:07 AM	#7
rsxnut1 Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Novi MI Posts: 26 Drives: 2005 C230 Sport Sedan	The message is "ESP Malfunction Visit Workshop... It started during the winter so I went to a parking lot and tested it, and it functions fine. The steering angle sensor is one of many sensors used to generate a "model" of the slip event. Unfortunately, without that sensor the car doesn't know my exact intent, so I assume the algorithm defaults to a worst-case slip model.

09-20-2010, 08:00 AM	#10
benzc200k Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Melbourne - Australia Posts: 69 Drives: w203 C200K	when driving in a straight line does your steering wheel stay dead centre? or is it slightly out of line? When i drove over a gutter with the front, the front wheel went out of alignment causing the steering wheel to stay crooked when driving straight. i got the front wheels re-alligned and did the 5 steering lock from side to side procedure to reset the steering sensor and its all good now.

09-20-2010, 09:43 AM	#12
maverik259 MBWorld Fanatic! 2005 Mercedes-Benz C-Class Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 2,622 Drives: 05 C230K SS (sold), 06 C55, 08 Yamaha R1	ya my esp error went off last year for a week...took it only to find out that stealership wanted 250 just to find out why it was on exactly...i laughed. then they told my my extended warranty doesnt cover it and it would be 600 to replace. I told them to F off and I left. Light has never come on since...althogh my steering wheel is always pushed slightly to the right even after alignments. so maybe I'll try that reset procedure. __________________ 05 C230k: check thread 06 C55: OEM Maple l BRABUS illuminated gear shift l 5.5AMG badge l SLK55 6/4 calipers l C63 paddles l 2nd cat/res del l 55k airbox l kevlar intakes l K&N l Eibach rear sway l silver cluster l Dig HVAC l iTronic l EC tune l flat badge l remote start l folding mirrors l LED door sills l VCS l W204 side view mirrors l CLK55 grille coming soon: CLK63 Bumper l Kleeman headers l MHP thermostat l DTM steering wheel l Euroteck lip l kompressor

10-02-2010, 01:30 PM	#14
Glyn M Ruck Super Moderator 1965 Jaguar 3.8 S Type Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 15,859 Drives: late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires	We have a slight language problem here - no problem Are you asking how to do this? If so - Stop the car on level ground & with the engine running turn the steering wheel from full left to full right 5 times. This will reset the steering angle sensor. __________________ Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa

02-02-2012, 01:50 PM	#15
rsxnut Newbie Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Novi MI Posts: 2 Drives: 2005 C230 Sport Sedan	Well I finally got around to replacing the steering angle sensor (replaced A 169 464 01 18 with A 169 464 11 18). The ESP malfunction message changed to ESP unavailable, then disappeared after lock to lock and a drive down the street!!

02-02-2012, 02:19 PM	#16
LILBENZ230 MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 6,145 Drives: 2011 C300	What did it cost ya?

02-02-2012, 02:45 PM	#17
rsxnut Newbie Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Novi MI Posts: 2 Drives: 2005 C230 Sport Sedan	$277

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