MIDO

Hi guys,

Just want to inform you all about my winter project!

It all started when I could get NO answers from Code3Performace on my many mails, I got tired of them ignoring my mails. And then it so happened that I got in touch with a guy on the Swedish forum, (S 500 R on this forum as well), and we decided to do something to my car!

If you have not checked out S 500 R's thread yet, I strongly recommend it!

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w124/208005-my-500e-rwr-supertouring.html

I will give my car to a company in Gothenburg next week, Scram, and then I'll get it back in April. During this time the engine will be totally rebuilt, among other things, Titanium rods and a BIG Lysholm SC. They will work on the engine, gearbox, drive train...And what ever else they feel is necessary to make it all work. I will also repaint the car and install KW coilovers!

We hope to get about 7-800Hp in the car!

I will update this thread as often as I can with photos and what is happening with the project, but since I'm working outside of Sweden, currently I'm on a contract in Lebanon, I can't say how often that will be. As soon as I get information from Sweden about what is happening, I post it ASAP here.

I hope that you will all enjoy the thread once things get started, and if you have any questions, your more then welcome to ask!

pshek

Sounds exciting, but the skeptic in me finds it difficult to achieve 800hp in a 3.2L V6. Even Mohammad Ben Sulayem's C32 pushes "only" 650 on a twincharged setup. 700hp might be achievable with the right TT setup and getting rid of the supercharger. Sounds cool. Thanks for the info.

MIDO

I understand where your coming from, and the 7-800 is an estimate of what will come out. And I have great trust for the guys in this company, they have among other cars, fixed an EVO that have 665Hp/740Nm, ON the wheels! This EVO took a Porsche GT2 (RUF tuned), a GT3 and a Lamborgini Gallardo. And also this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5A4OtqW6NQ .

But we will se what comes out of it!

MRAMG1

Good luck my friend, but I also share a relucdence that you will achieve 700 HP from a 3.2 engine, and still have ANY reliability. But hey, all ears and good thoughts

See yeah

MIDO

Thanks!

And yes, it will be interesting to se in April what they guys will have achevied! And you might be right about the reliability, but we wount know untill we try!

cnchung

7-800 bhp sounds challenging, but I would love to see it happening, and of course, with reliability. Godd luck to your mod.

Biscuit

Good luck with your project! This should be pretty exciting. I don't doubt achieving 700+hp out of the engine is possible....if you're willing to throw enough money at it.

I've seen Evo's make that much (stock a 2.0 i4 but usually stroked), same with the 300zxtt (stock 3.0 v6), and even a saab or two (2.3l i4)...crazy swedes, heh. So it can definitely be done with engines of that size.

Again, good luck and keep us updated.

CLKCLK

Sound super exciting. However, in the mean time I have to . Good luck with the project and open a brand new thread when it's done. This thread gets old by April

Code3 Performance

Good luck with everything, Mido! I can't wait to see the final numbers. Keep in mind utilizing a large supercharger will take more energy to spin it, thus hindering the amount of power you're able to make. You may want to peak at a turbo kit as those will allow you to reach your goal of 700+ horsepower.

On a side note, I don't recall receiving any emails from you that went unanswered. Next time if you have a question try emailing Aaron@code3performance.com or messaging us on the forum.

Aaron

Code3 Performance

You're absolutely correct! With turbo cars it's a lot easier to make huge power.

-AS

Newzchspy

First of all, having ridden bikes for many years, the chump on the motorcycle was a horrible rider. The front end of that bike should have been 3-4 inches off the ground the whole time he was accelerating. That kind of power begets wheelies and his bike was not wheelying at all. Even though he laid on the tank to transfer weight forward and get out of the air, there's no reason why that particular bike should not have done at least a low 10, high 9 second qtr (and guess what, it was a moving start, not from the dig which is even better for the bike). My point is, the race with the bike should have been much closer with the bike pulling ahead initially and then the car gaining on him with its 700 horsepower. The power to weight on a bike still favors the bike (assuming a decent rider). I am sold BUT not sold by this video. Its awfully hard to beat a bike the calibre of a GSXR 1000, Honda, Hyabusa etc if there's a good rider. These bikes can do high 9s all day long at 150 MPH or more in the the qtr. There's even a vid of a bike racing a Formula One car and boat somewhere where the bike still gets (initially) a better start than the Formula One car and then the F-1 beats it after that (and badly too) and thats a 1100 HP car.

OverDrive

I’m all for the project and would love to see our v6 amgs up at 800hp, Our problem, if your project is successful, would be trying to obtain traction. Traction control even if you have it on, will be like "you expect me to control 800hp to the real wheels then your crazy" If its off soon as your turbo spool wheels will be spinning probley 1-3 gears if not more. I have a friend with a 850hp supra and at 80 mph he can lose traction (not that im saying it will happen with the c32) but you have to consider it bringing the power to the ground Is this going to be a track are street drivin? Anyway im all for ya

TemjinX2

he said he was going to go super charger not turbo. i have doubts about you hitting 700hp on supercharger. I think if you went turbo, you'll have no trouble hitting 700-800whp.

But good luck on the project...i would be more then happy if you proved me wrong...

S 500 R

I can promise you guys that it will be no problem to hit the 700hp mark... 800 hp... we will see... but it´s not inpossible...

3.2 l engine is a big engine when we are talking about an boosted engine...

boohooramblers

What a fantastic project that would be to get 700hp out of the M112K!

OT, but.......
S 500 R - that's a hell of a project that you have going! Great stuff!

kindafast

Good luck with the project!

OverDrive

o i must read turbo somewhere and thought he was doing that. Has anyone else had experience with the Lysholm SC? How does it compair to ours? I know some vw people use them.

Heres their website by the way,

http://www.opcon.se/index.asp?sPage=1&langID=1&cID=14

They are twin screw like ours and look similar.

TemjinX2

yeah its because he put c32T in the title, so most people think turbo when they hear T...lol. I think he's going by the audi definition of T, which is just force induction.

Eleventeen

700-800 WHP can certainly be achieved with a 3.2L using turbo, but it will definitely be a challenge with S/C (although I still believe it's possible, even if not "streetable") Let us not forget about several other V6's running around that are capable of that type of power: Supras, Skylines, 300ZX's (with even less displacement). Also, numerous Buicks based on 20-25 year old technology have achieved this level of power and more. Again, I believe it can be done with a supercharger, but I feel a turbo or two would definitely be the best way to go.

hooleyboy

my life long search for more power would be over if i could slap some turbos on my c55. Until that day happens (never will) I will be stuck driving the slow AMG. Turbos are the way to go. Making power off waste energy.... sounds green to me.

mustang281man

i bet thats the same blower as the whipple

alkrstev

Sounds like a great idea. Although, I dont know if the c32 amg 5 speed auto transmission will be able to take that much power without being modified. I hope everything turns out great though.

Eleventeen

Good point. I've read that the C32 transmission is VERY similar to the E55 tranny, but thinking back, it might have been in reference to the earlier, non-kompressor E55. If it is similar to the E55K trans, it might be able to be fortified with some of the stronger internal components.

TemjinX2

i heard the general consensus is that the tranny can probably take up to 500whp. But no one's really gone up to 700whp...which means your in uncharted terrority.

I agree thats a lot of power for a torque converter. I agree, you would probably need to reinforce the tranny.

razormb

Heres a bit of inspiration... a blast from the past but a very interesting article on a C32 supercharger-turbo combo.



http://autospeed.com/cms/A_1447/article.html