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Old 01-18-2017, 06:46 PM
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No car forums are for sharing experiences and giving each other constructive feedback. Not a single thing you wrote is constructive. Car forums are ideally not the place to demean another person's car, but of-course with guys like you, that is difficult.

And it is a free country, you can form an opinion. Just form it elsewhere.
Show me where I demean your car, belittle it or call it inferior in any way. Just because I argue that it isn't an Amg, to you that is demeaning? I find it funny that you read it that way. Essentially you are saying that by me arguing that it isn't an amg, it is inferior. That would be a belief YOU believe. That amgs are superior
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Wow this is still going on?

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Originally Posted by Dthquazi
Show me where I demean your car, belittle it or call it inferior in any way. Just because I argue that it isn't an Amg, to you that is demeaning? I find it funny that you read it that way. Essentially you are saying that by me arguing that it isn't an amg, it is inferior. That would be a belief YOU believe. That amgs are superior

Why does MB slap AMG logos all over the C43?
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Why does MB slap AMG logos all over the C43?
More kerosene for the fire...
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Originally Posted by Mbm6f
More kerosene for the fire...

Lol.


Maybe they just hate "real AMG" drivers and want to **** them off.


Either that or Gunter hates his boss so much he slaps AMG all over the cars at the factory when his manager ain't lookin......
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So since this thread is heavily derailed, is nobody gonna talk about how MB apparently underrated the c43's performance figures? According to Renntech's testing, the figures stand at 375hp and 398lb-ft torque.

Reference to thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/c43-amg-c...u-upgrade.html
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So since this thread is heavily derailed, is nobody gonna talk about how MB apparently underrated the c43's performance figures? According to Renntech's testing, the figures stand at 375hp and 398lb-ft torque.

Reference to thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/c43-amg-c...u-upgrade.html
I wouldn't read too much into that. They are using a random 17% calculation for drivetrain loss. 22-25% is the industry standard for AWD loss.

Not sure where they get the 17% figure from.

But the only true way to tell what the engine is making is to put it on an engine dyno.
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Originally Posted by sean1.8t
I wouldn't read too much into that. They are using a random 17% calculation for drivetrain loss. 22-25% is the industry standard for AWD loss.

Not sure where they get the 17% figure from.

But the only true way to tell what the engine is making is to put it on an engine dyno.
How is there tune #s compare to AMR or OE ? Do you think it is close ?
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Given all the numbers everyone claims, yeah it's close. But everyone is leaving power on the table compared to OE and AMR. Might equate to a half second slower in the 1/4 mile.

Are you really going to notice? Probably not.

The thing that gets me is the price. My OE tune was $800. RennTechs is like $2,000+? Yikes. I'd rather go with the BMS tune. Similar numbers, trusted company, and only $300! <--No brainer there.

I personally went OE because of price and they are tied with AMR for the highest [claimed] numbers. I didn't want to leave power on the table. I would have loved to spend only $300 but I would have been thinking about that extra power I left on the table every time I stepped on the gas.
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Originally Posted by sean1.8t
I wouldn't read too much into that. They are using a random 17% calculation for drivetrain loss. 22-25% is the industry standard for AWD loss.

Not sure where they get the 17% figure from.

But the only true way to tell what the engine is making is to put it on an engine dyno.
Haha yeah, I know. It's just speculation at this point. I just wanted to get a discussion going. Renntech is a reputable company after all, it'd be interesting to see how they answer questions regarding their claims.
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well, this thread was a lot more entertaining than I would have imagined.

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We're all arguing over pointless crap on a Benz forum. At least we're not on a *****ty Honda forum, am-I-right?!
Hey now. I've been a proud owner of many hondas over the years so don't even go there
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Originally Posted by unr1
well, this thread was a lot more entertaining than I would have imagined.

Typically it is the same losers who drove crappy cars all their life and finally work overtime for years to buy a C63 who get butthurt with the C43. It's like that commercial of that shipwreck-looking guy who finally arrived at an island after many hardships goes on to tell his story to someone who simply clicked on Expedia lol. They feel undercut and their peckers only swelled an inch instead of two.

Saw a C63 in my showroom for 97K. Not only is it too understated but overpriced. My 507 is twice the experience than these turbo V8s. Sure it's fast but doesn't sound like the M156, Fabrizio Di Giuseppe built that one ! No V8 turbo can ever, ever match the NA V8. M156 guys know it, and 458 Italia owners know it.

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Originally Posted by coladin
Typically it is the same losers who drove crappy cars all their life and finally work overtime for years to buy a C63 who get butthurt with the C43. It's like that commercial of that shipwreck-looking guy who finally arrived at an island after many hardships goes on to tell his story to someone who simply clicked on Expedia lol. They feel undercut and their peckers only swelled an inch instead of two.

Saw a C63 in my showroom for 97K. Not only is it too understated but overpriced. My 507 is twice the experience than these turbo V8s. Sure it's fast but doesn't sound like the M156, Fabrizio Di Giuseppe built that one ! No V8 turbo can ever, ever match the NA V8. M156 guys know it, and 458 Italia owners know it.
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Originally Posted by unr1
well, this thread was a lot more entertaining than I would have imagined.
That would be a "nice" way to put it.
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Hey now. I've been a proud owner of many hondas over the years so don't even go there
No offense intended. I'm sure you are a decent human.

But have you ever frequented Honda-tech.com?
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Originally Posted by sean1.8t
But have you ever frequented Honda-tech.com?
I haven't. There are several Honda forums. I'm sure some are much better than others.

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