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Old 08-20-2011, 10:18 PM
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**** C63 AT SUMMIT POINT **** VIDEO ****

The GT500 was in the shop getting headers and a new supercharger, so I had to take the C63 to Summit Point for the first time. Videos are below. Its performance exceeded my expectations.



http://youtu.be/hstq5x9IVHA


http://youtu.be/cQxAgEHLirY

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Nice vids. How does it compare to your gt500? I'm thinking about getting a 2011 gt500, but worried that I won't be happy with the power compared to a tuned c63.
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Looks like alot of fun! Thanks for the videos.
What kind of headers are you getting on the GT500?
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Nice vids. How does it compare to your gt500? I'm thinking about getting a 2011 gt500, but worried that I won't be happy with the power compared to a tuned c63.
At the risk of getting flamed on this forum, the C63 performed very well but was not nearly as much fun or as powerful or as well-handling as my modified GT500. I would be very surprised if you were disappointed with the power in a 2011 GT500, even in stock form.


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Looks like alot of fun! Thanks for the videos.
What kind of headers are you getting on the GT500?
American Racing 1 7/8" Long-Tube Headers with high-flow catted X-Pipe

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Summit Point is my nearest track, and I'm planning to go there as soon as I can find time, so it's great to see this video. Looks like a decent track. Thanks.
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Summit Point is my nearest track, and I'm planning to go there as soon as I can find time, so it's great to see this video. Looks like a decent track. Thanks.
It's not bad. Only 45-60 minutes from my house. A good place to start. Gonna try to get down to VIR next.
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nice, thanx for sharing...looks like nothing but fun, and DAMN: love the garage setup.....
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Originally Posted by PistolWhipC63
Nice vids. How does it compare to your gt500? I'm thinking about getting a 2011 gt500, but worried that I won't be happy with the power compared to a tuned c63.
Not trying to argue with you on this one but please go and check the specs on a GT500, it is a 550hp/510lb-tq car to begin with (about 100 hp more than the C63 AMG, 70lbtq).

A Tune will gain a lot of power on the C63 but also a tune will gain even more on a GT500 specially whenever you raise the boost 1 or 2 PSI.

On a recent comparo the GT500 trapped 119 mph, that is an average of about 5 mph than a C63 AMG with a similar weight too.

I simply find your comment or observation funny, mainly because I don't agree with what you are saying. My .2c
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Awesome video!
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Originally Posted by Baby Gorilla
At the risk of getting flamed on this forum, the C63 performed very well but was not nearly as much fun or as powerful or as well-handling as my modified GT500. I would be very surprised if you were disappointed with the power in a 2011 GT500, even in stock form.




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I am with you on your comments. The GT500 handles very well too so you are not making up stories, I believe it too..

Good videos by the way. I seen a fast black Evo X on the video, it clearly seesm as if it had a bigger turbo.
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Not trying to argue with you on this one but please go and check the specs on a GT500, it is a 550hp/510lb-tq car to begin with (about 100 hp more than the C63 AMG, 70lbtq).

A Tune will gain a lot of power on the C63 but also a tune will gain even more on a GT500 specially whenever you raise the boost 1 or 2 PSI.

On a recent comparo the GT500 trapped 119 mph, that is an average of about 5 mph than a C63 AMG with a similar weight too.

I simply find your comment or observation funny, mainly because I don't agree with what you are saying. My .2c

He was asking for a real life comparison, not the bench racer stats
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^^ No sir. If you read the second part of the comment:

"but worried that I won't be happy with the power compared to a tuned c63"

^^ This tells me that the perception is that the GT500 wouldn't be in par with the C63 and that is not true. A recnt test/comparo put the GT500 in the low 12 sec 119mph, that is better than any test ever on a C63. Why questioning the power outputs when the GT500 is already superior?

This is a basic principle. Either you are aware and familiar with the power outputs or either car or you don't. The GT500 is vastly more powerfull than a C63 out of the box, even more when you do simple mods. my .2c

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Originally Posted by C63newdude
^^ No sir. If you read the second part of the comment:

"but worried that I won't be happy with the power compared to a tuned c63"

^^ This tells me that the perception is that the GT500 wouldn't be in par with the C63 and that is not true. A recnt test/comparo put the GT500 in the low 12 sec 119mph, that is better than any test ever on a C63. Why questioning the power outputs when the GT500 is already superior?

This is a basic principle. Either you are aware and familiar with the power outputs or either car or you don't. The GT500 is vastly more powerfull than a C63 out of the box, even more when you do simple mods. my .2c

Well I figured Propain with a tune and dr's ran 11.5 at 122. A stock gt500 with a similar trap has trouble putting power down. I feel as though the top end on our cars with just a tune is pretty strong compared to an american muscle car with revs to 6100 and has the aerodynamics of a brick. I love the c63, But I'm itching to get back into a 6mt.

I would get a z06, But like the practical look and feel of a gt500. I would love to see a pulley/tune gt500 vs a c63 w/ headers in a real world situation. Anyways sorry for stealing your thread.
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^^ I believe that the GT500 is a solid rear axle, it gets plenty of wheelhop.
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nice videos mate!
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Well I figured Propain with a tune and dr's ran 11.5 at 122. A stock gt500 with a similar trap has trouble putting power down. I feel as though the top end on our cars with just a tune is pretty strong compared to an american muscle car with revs to 6100 and has the aerodynamics of a brick. I love the c63, But I'm itching to get back into a 6mt.

I would get a z06, But like the practical look and feel of a gt500. I would love to see a pulley/tune gt500 vs a c63 w/ headers in a real world situation. Anyways sorry for stealing your thread.
I have zero experience or interest in dragging either of these cars, so I can't really address that, but I think you are correct. Depending on the source you look at, the stock C63 can match or beat the stock GT500 in 1/4 mile or 0-60 times. That's why I qualified my initial statement--my GT500 has been pretty heavily modified. Also, having tracked both cars, I just happen to enjoy the GT500 a little more--just my personal opinion. You also touched on the biggest problem: putting that power to the ground. My next mission is to widen the rear wheels and put some sticky 305s back there.



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^^ I believe that the GT500 is a solid rear axle, it gets plenty of wheelhop.
It does have a solid rear axle, probably its biggest drawback. However, wheel hop has not been an issue for me. I have also taken it to the track and driven it pretty hard, and the way it handles, you would never be able to tell it doesn't have an independent rear suspension. In fairness, I did have a lot of work done on the suspension, but the rear axle remains the same.
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BG-nice video and line. Good to meet you. I'll send you the info we discussed. I take it your friend's S55 got restarted?
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BG-nice video and line. Good to meet you. I'll send you the info we discussed. I take it your friend's S55 got restarted?
Good meeting you too. He did get it restarted, but it died again a few miles from our neighborhood.
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This is a basic principle. Either you are aware and familiar with the power outputs or either car or you don't. The GT500 is vastly more powerfull than a C63 out of the box, even more when you do simple mods. my .2c
+1

It's alright, some ppl simply know jack. I mean, this is the C63 forum, I'm not expecting much.

A stock GT500 would have little trouble keeping up with our cars - probably doesn't even matter if we're tuned or not. And despite that log of an axle in the rear, it'll most likely handle better on the track too and it probably should seeing that it was designed for it.
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It's alright, some ppl simply know jack. I mean, this is the C63 forum, I'm not expecting much.

A stock GT500 would have little trouble keeping up with our cars - probably doesn't even matter if we're tuned or not. And despite that log of an axle in the rear, it'll most likely handle better on the track too and it probably should seeing that it was designed for it.
Sound's like you're talking about racing between what's written on paper. High numbers don't always translate to real road situations. Just b/c a gt500 comes with 550hp doesn't mean it can automatically beat something with a little less hp. Gearing, aerodynamics, and top end have a lot to do what I'm asking. I wanna know how they would do on a airstrip or "mexico" lets say 60 - 130/150mph.

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It's alright, some ppl simply know jack. I mean, this is the C63 forum, I'm not expecting much.
That's an ignorant statement. Considering most of us are car enthusiast. I'm also on the svt forums and have been following the gt500's since it release. I've never driven the 2010+ gt500's only 2009 and was asking the OP since he owns both 2010 gt500 and c63 what he thought.

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Originally Posted by PistolWhipC63
That's an ignorant statement. Considering most of us are car enthusiast. I'm also on the svt forums and have been following the gt500's since it release. I've never driven the 2010+ gt500's only 2009 and was asking the OP since he owns both 2010 gt500 and c63 what he thought.
You're a car enthusiast? I wouldn't know based on your initial comment that you'd somehow be "disappointed" with the power of a stock GT500. Either that comment was sarcasm on your part or you, being a car enthusiast, didn't know that, just based on numbers, a GT500 is packing more power & performance than a stock C63. And now you want to pull the "but in real world situations, etc etc." line but cold hard #s are there and I'm sure you're well aware of them. Sure, #s aren't everything but they're a good indication of what to expect.

Not trying to sound like a dick but it was your comment that I found to be rather ignorant.
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Originally Posted by derspi
You're a car enthusiast? I wouldn't know based on your initial comment that you'd somehow be "disappointed" with the power of a stock GT500. Either that comment was sarcasm on your part or you, being a car enthusiast, didn't know that, just based on numbers, a GT500 is packing more power & performance than a stock C63. And now you want to pull the "but in real world situations, etc etc." line but cold hard #s are there and I'm sure you're well aware of them. Sure, #s aren't everything but they're a good indication of what to expect.

Not trying to sound like a dick but it was your comment that I found to be rather ignorant.

Clearly this has you on a personal level, I'm only setting the record straight for those who may have misinterpreted what I meant. You said "a GT500 is packing more power & performance than a stock C63." If you can read I clearly said vs a tuned c63. They are close enough in performance, numbers, and weight. Which leaves aerodynamics, gearing, and top end. Which is why I asked the OP if I'd be happy with the power. If you wanna keep twisting words around and viewing things in a pessimistic light, then don't even bother responding.

Usually when somebody says I'm "Not trying to sound like a dick" um well you get the point...

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Originally Posted by PistolWhipC63
Clearly this has you on a personal level, I'm only setting the record straight for those who may have misinterpreted what I meant. You said "a GT500 is packing more power & performance than a stock C63." If you can read I clearly said vs a tuned c63. They are close enough in performance, numbers, and weight. Which leaves aerodynamics, gearing, and top end. Which is why I asked the OP if I'd be happy with the power. If you wanna keep twisting words around and viewing things in a pessimistic light, then don't even bother responding.

Usually when somebody says I'm "Not trying to sound like a dick" um well you get the point...
Umm, ok - personal level? lol

They're your words, not mine. I don't see how anyone can misinterpret them - not me, not C63newdude, not the OP, nope, no one. A tuned vs. not tuned C63 is splitting hairs, you're really grasping at straws - and before you ask, yes, mine is "tuned." Its not like tuning our cars turns them into magical 700-HP beasts. And even if it did, our cars would still be overwhelmed at the track (I'm talking about a real racecourse with turns) by a GT500. How can you honestly say that if a stock GT500 is indeed "close enough" in performance, etc. that you wouldn't be happy with the power compared to our own cars?

Seriously, it's like a non-question.

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Umm, ok - personal level? lol

They're your words, not mine. I don't see how anyone can misinterpret them - not me, not C63newdude, not the OP, nope, no one. A tuned vs. not tuned C63 is splitting hairs, you're really grasping at straws - and before you ask, yes, mine is "tuned." Its not like tuning our cars turns them into magical 700-HP beasts. And even if it did, our cars would still be overwhelmed at the track (I'm talking about a real racecourse with turns) by a GT500. How can you honestly say that if a stock GT500 is indeed "close enough" in performance, etc. that you wouldn't be happy with the power compared to our own cars?

Seriously, it's like a non-question.
Well since you're like 12 I'll make this easy and end this. Where exactly did you get the impression when I said a tuned c63, that it would jump you 250hp... again you're stretching things so you don't look stupid. If you actually read my post, I clearly again said "close enough" which means 550hp to the crank vs about 530. When you say "Seriously, it's like a non-question." what you actually mean is it's a rhetorical question.
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If it's such a rhetorical question yen why did you ask it?

See what I mean? I'm not expecting much and, once again, you've proven my point.

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