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Old 08-13-2014, 11:51 AM
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It's Official.. Chrysler are absolutely bonkers - 707HP Charger

http://jalopnik.com/the-707-hp-dodge...1620758434/all

No price, no manual, but absolutely nutters for a 4k+ pound car...

I'm also guessing the interior will be crappy like all other others.
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The interiors are much improved on the Chargers/300's. The 2015 Challenger's interior is getting rave reviews.


204mph and an 11.0 on street tires for the Hellcat Charger.
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My guess is that pricing will probably be high 60's low 70's. Short of a Viper, I cannot see spending that kind of money on a Chrysler
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My guess is that pricing will probably be high 60's low 70's. Short of a Viper, I cannot see spending that kind of money on a Chrysler
The Challenger Hellcat starts at 60k. So probably 65K for the Charger if I had to guess.
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OHOH! Just when I checked a local 2014 SRT charger and felt the car was lacking some power!!lol!! Will they do the Jeep SRT hellcat too??
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OHOH! Just when I checked a local 2014 SRT charger and felt the car was lacking some power!!lol!! Will they do the Jeep SRT hellcat too??
No word on that. If they do, I'm guessing it wont be until 2016 some time. They said these Chargers will be on the lots in Q1 2015.

I can only imagine what the R&D would be on an AWD system that could handle 707hp.

Jeezus.
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Edit: Correction, was an SAE filing.

"J1349 Certified Power Engine Data for Chrysler as used in 6.2L SC HEMI (Hellcat) 2015 MY Dodge Challenger 6.2L SC SRT;2015 MY Dodge Charger 6.2L SC SRT - Level 1."

Original: Based on something that was posted to Jalopnik a while back (I think it was a notice to NHTSA about which vehicles the engine will go in), it will only be the Charger and Challenger.

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Originally Posted by jvanbrecht
http://jalopnik.com/the-707-hp-dodge...1620758434/all

No price, no manual, but absolutely nutters for a 4k+ pound car...

I'm also guessing the interior will be crappy like all other others.
Just bought a 2014 Jeep SRT and the interior and technology is what sold me on it. Best to try it before a beat down because it is equal to that of any MB anywhere near the price point.
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Just bought a 2014 Jeep SRT and the interior and technology is what sold me on it. Best to try it before a beat down because it is equal to that of any MB anywhere near the price point.
Yeah. I had a 2012 300 SRT. People say "Oh I bet the AMG is more luxurious...".

Then I list the options I lost going to a Mercedes....

I miss my remote start and vented seats (both standard in the SRT).
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Originally Posted by Sanders27
Just bought a 2014 Jeep SRT and the interior and technology is what sold me on it. Best to try it before a beat down because it is equal to that of any MB anywhere near the price point.
My Chrylser experience is with a loaded 2012 Grand Cherokee, not the SRT. I was not impressed, I was not disappointed, but not impressed, it was kinda meh...

The radio/nav on the other hand was an absolute piece of garbage, but at least that could easily be replaced, unlike the one in our MB's.

Not sure if the refreshed GC's have a better interior then the 2012's had.
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Originally Posted by jvanbrecht
My Chrylser experience is with a loaded 2012 Grand Cherokee, not the SRT. I was not impressed, I was not disappointed, but not impressed, it was kinda meh...

The radio/nav on the other hand was an absolute piece of garbage, but at least that could easily be replaced, unlike the one in our MB's.

Not sure if the refreshed GC's have a better interior then the 2012's had.
A 2012? So was that on the old MyGig nav system? Or the 8.4" Uconnect?

Because the 8.4" Uconnect is the best (THE BEST) in the industry.
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Yep, many of the new Chrysler/Dodge interiors are getting great praise

Let's see...I'll take that Charger (white is fine) and add:
Pulley kit
Headers (cat delete)
Meth or E85
TUNE
Quad-tips mufflers
CF front splitter
CF rear deck wing
CF rear bumper splitter/valance
Then lowered it about two inches.

I'll bet with those mods that **** would be a BIGGER 'ol monster.

I bet that from the factory, it will handle just as good or a little better than the P30 C63amg...if so, that's good enough for me.

At the end of the day though, I would prefer the Jeep SRT-8 Hell-Cat if they make it.

Nevertheless, I think I may be saying goodbye to my 2009 C63 and hello to this new Charger

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I have Driven a Hellcat Challenger...

and it was awesome.


Its funny, people are bagging on the Mopar products. The performance they offer, with impressive build quality, at a reasonable price point is pretty impressive. My Son's 2013 Charger R/T is built far better than my E63


My E63 is in the shop now because I can't hear people on the bluetooth because the speaker vibrates so much. Also, there are far more rattles, buzzes and creaks in this car than any other car I have had, Mopars included.


And don't get me started on the Pano Roof. No one can get the popping and creaking out of it.


I really like the way my E63 drives and performs, but the build quality is NOWHERE near where a $120K car should be. Perhaps the S Class cars are built better. My wife's C63 is built way better than my E.


If I can get awesome performance and solid build quality in a $60K car, sounds like a good deal.
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Originally Posted by dflamer
and it was awesome.


Its funny, people are bagging on the Mopar products. The performance they offer, with impressive build quality, at a reasonable price point is pretty impressive. My Son's 2013 Charger R/T is built far better than my E63


My E63 is in the shop now because I can't hear people on the bluetooth because the speaker vibrates so much. Also, there are far more rattles, buzzes and creaks in this car than any other car I have had, Mopars included.


And don't get me started on the Pano Roof. No one can get the popping and creaking out of it.


I really like the way my E63 drives and performs, but the build quality is NOWHERE near where a $120K car should be. Perhaps the S Class cars are built better. My wife's C63 is built way better than my E.


If I can get awesome performance and solid build quality in a $60K car, sounds like a good deal.

I agree!

However, my experience was in reverse...my now sold & gone 2008 E63 was much quieter vs my current 2009 C63. My C63 has more rattles and cracking sound than I don't know what. I thought maybe it was my car, but no! I've driven and ridding in friend's C63's and they too have many of the same noises and cracking sounds. No car is perfect, but dayum

IMO, overall and in generall, the E's are a couple of steps above the C in terms of ammenities, interior, ride and so on. However, the S class - they are at another level...the C feels cheap vs. the S.

Yep, some people will beat-up on any other car if not built by Mercedes or BMW or Lexus or whatever. Many of those people better start recognizing that Dodge has cleaned up a lot of its mess...and looking good.
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I'd wait until they iron the wrinkles out. That is a ton of power so the chances that they manufactured every single part properly to handle that output is unlikely. Head on over to the CLA45 forum and check out how many people already have turbo issues. 26lbs stock is a lot...

Anywho, once things are ironed out the car will be saweet. My beer gut isn't big enough to consider ownership of one yet though.
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Chrysler has made a huge improvement in their vehicles in the last few years. Definitely wouldn't mind testing driving the Hellcat. The only key that I would be using is the red key.
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Originally Posted by HardC63
I agree!

However, my experience was in reverse...my now sold & gone 2008 E63 was much quieter vs my current 2009 C63. My C63 has more rattles and cracking sound than I don't know what. I thought maybe it was my car, but no! I've driven and ridding in friend's C63's and they too have many of the same noises and cracking sounds. No car is perfect, but dayum

IMO, overall and in generall, the E's are a couple of steps above the C in terms of ammenities, interior, ride and so on. However, the S class - they are at another level...the C feels cheap vs. the S.

Yep, some people will beat-up on any other car if not built by Mercedes or BMW or Lexus or whatever. Many of those people better start recognizing that Dodge has cleaned up a lot of its mess...and looking good.
Great comments. I was just commenting on build quality. There is definitely more "stuff" in my E vs. my wife's C63. However, I do believe the C is more "solid" than the E.
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A couple months ago, I needed 2 cars but could only afford one between the 507 and Jeep GC SRT. Will be a year or so before I can buy my 2nd, new Q7 will be out but I hope they make the SRT Hellcat by then, done deal. Even if not the 6.4 N/A Hemi SRT is still at the top of my list. Looks are great and the new interior/electronics and transmission were big upgrades for MY 2014.

I haven't owned an SRT product before but my first impressions were positive.

Even if you're not a fan this raises the bar for all automakers (barring complete mechanical failure issues.)

Great work Dodge...
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A 2012? So was that on the old MyGig nav system? Or the 8.4" Uconnect?

Because the 8.4" Uconnect is the best (THE BEST) in the industry.
It was this. I guess based on the filename, that it was the MyGig, although it was also called Uconnect (no version number) in the options list. RHN 4xx (I forget the number, maybe 430), not the 7xx series model.

Either way, it was an absolute piece of crap.
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Originally Posted by jvanbrecht
It was this. I guess based on the filename, that it was the MyGig, although it was also called Uconnect (no version number) in the options list. RHN 4xx (I forget the number, maybe 430), not the 7xx series model.

Either way, it was an absolute piece of crap.
That was the last year that system (MyGig) existed in any Chrysler made product. The Jeep and Ram were the last two with it. It's long gone.

The new UConnect system is fantastic. Especially in the SRT's because they have tons of SRT Track tools (1/4 mile slips, 0-60, G-Force, etc) all built in.
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No problems with build quality or anything else with my C63. I passed on a new Stingray when i sat in the seats. They were really flimsy and interior was second rate. That was 2011.
Only problem is car is down on power right now, after dealer looked at it, last year. Took it back aand whn I left it was it's old self. started up the next day and back down on power.


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