ohlord

ET the further out from the suspension towards the fender moves the rim/tire combo. A 38ET would move in 3mm v.s. the 35ET.

JSe420

sounds like ill probably have to get some spacers and pull the fenders. Does anyone run 18x8.5 et38?

BlackStar Stig

I run 18"x8,5" ET35 on my front, and I have only a couple of mm clearance to the strut. And it barely runs clear of the fender too..
I believe if I had ET38 they would hit the strut.
So I think ET35 is the best choice for 8,5"s on the front wheels.. They hit the marginals on both ends.
With 500 fenders you would get a little more room to lower the ET some below ET35, as the wheel comes further out with lower ET.

JMcGlash

Anyone know if 17"x7.5 5x112 37mm keskin kt5s would fit, with or without spacers?

BlackStar Stig

If you mean ET37 I think they will fit just perfect, even without spacers.

On this setup I have 17" 7,5 ET37, and no spacers..

ZorroAMG

stormtigers

Okay final fitment for my beloved 300CE.

W H E E L S
Front alloy wheels :
MB C Class 10 Spoke17x7.5" ET36
Wheel part number : MER B66474270
Rear alloy wheels :
MB C Class 10 Spoke 17x8.5" ET30
Wheel part number : MER B66474271

T Y R E S - S T A G G E R E D
Front : FALKEN ZIEX ZE-912 Size : 225/45 ZR17
Rear : FALKEN ZIEX ZE-912 Size : 245/40 ZR17

Rear's leave me only about 4-5mm from guard but Falken have a rounded shoulder which helps. Had 100kg of mechanic and golf gear sit in boot and no rubbing on bounce. No rubbing encountered thus far even on hard turns (mechanic got out fortunately).

Cannot confirm lowering height as fitted before purchase but as picture shows in signature it is reasonable amount.

murky damo

Hi, I have to opportunity to get a wreck with some mags I am pretty keen on, I want to be 100% sure they will fit before I purchse the car though.

They are 17 inch off a 380SEL. Currently running 235/45/17 tyres, which need replacing anyway, so I could go lower profile if I have to. According to the link in the first post of this thread 235/45/17 would fit on a standard w124.

Coming from the SEL the I assume the lower offsets will mean I require spacers of somewhere between 15 and 20mm..?

They need a good poslish and some tires, but I think they should suit the car quite well. I have some other people who want some of the other parts, but I don't want to do all of the running around if I can't get the rims to fit on my car...



Here is the ad:

http://adelaide.gumtree.com.au/c-Car...dIdZ286044721#

Can anyone tell me 100% either way if these will fit?

Thanks in advance. Cheers, Damo.

stormtigers

Damo

the 380Sel according my info was a W126 and only had 14 or 15 inch MB wheels, or else some 17's from AMG which were staggered.
There's a wide ET range also which goes as low as 17/18 on the AMG's out to 30 on the 14 inch standards. To judge whether they would fit you really need to know what model wheel they are and what the offset they are.
A standard W124 ? - what model do you consider standard by the way ?
I believe (and I may be wrong) that most W124's are in the 30-40 range outside of those figures you need to do a bit of a calculation on it.

As an idea have a look at :
http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp

Put your standard W124 wheel size in on the left side and put the intended new one's in on the right. That will give you an idea of just what effects on the inside of the rim the new one's will have.

Cheers

AMGDave

Damo, no, we cannot tell you if they will fit without knowing the exact width AND exact offset. They are not original W126 wheels so you can't estimate much of anything from the model they are installed on presently...

murky damo

Thanks for the help. I think I will roll the dice, they look nice.

I'll let ya know how it turns out.

Peas out!

CALIFORNIAICE

Hey guys, BARE WITH ME HERE! just wondering.. I see many of you running thicker tires than me on a +35mm offset. im currently at stock height, and at bounce im rubbing. im running a set of stern st8 with 35mm offset, and running pirelli p6 235 45 17 all the way around. question 1: Am I rubbing because pirellis run bigger than japanese brand tires? question 2:Those of you who are running +35 offset with same/ wider tire setup, would you rub if your suspension sucked? or are they sitting in flush either way? I have a set of H&R sportline springs im getting ready to install, am i rubbing because wheels are just too wide? or is it just because my springs/ shocks are possibly ready to go?!

AMGDave

Offset means nothing without knowing the wheel width. You'd have to tell us the complete wheel & tire size. ET35 on a 6.5" wheel is COMPLETELY different than ET35 on an 8.5" wheel.

I'm guessing you didn't roll the fender lips, or install the fender spacers, or install the strut travel limiter though... all of which should be mentioned earlier in this thread, with links to the AMG documents showing how to do it.

CALIFORNIAICE

so youre saying that a non stretched 235 width wheel on a 7" wheel would be wider than on a 8" wheel? i believe the wheels are 17x 8.5 btw.

AMGDave

I'm saying that ET35 on an 8.5" wheel will stick out a half-inch further than ET35 on a 7.5" wheel. You can get 17x8.5 ET35 in the rear without too much trouble, but up front you'll need serious tweaks to make that work.

BlackStar Stig

I run 8,5" x 18" ET35 up front with no tweaks at all, other than 215/40/18 tires that are mildly stretched.
The car is lowered, fenders only factory rolled, no fender spacerkit, no strut limiter.. Clearance is minimal when on wheel turn ontop of a curb, but it would still fit a papersheet clean between the gap ontop of the tire. So there is clearance.

AMGDave

Yeah, but what happens when you are trail braking?

Tight fitments are simple when the car is not in motion. It always clears when parked in your driveway.

BlackStar Stig

I have been testing aggressive braking through corners, and yes it has happened that I've heard the tire scrape the fender a couple of times. But never more than a mild thouch at the most aggressive attempts.

The wintersetup however, (pictures further up) are 17" 7,5" ET37 with 205/50/17" are scraping the fenders hard when I turn slowly up the shallow curbs infront of the local mall..

Shoomakan

AMGDave, you're a saint for putting up with us noobies. Just a few months ago I was the one asking you for info. I'm glad to see you're still giving it out patiently. I would have started yelling by now.

Dude... I fitted those wheels on my car and it was HORRIBLE. I had 235/40/18 in the front and it was KILLING me. I'm much happier with my Evo wheels now, but honestly... I think those wheels look the best on W124's. I'm glad they're working for someone.

BlackStar Stig

215/40x18" is absolute maximum tire size I can run up front with my wheels. 225 would hit the wheel arch for sure, and 235's would most absolutely crunch my whole fender if I tried it..

murky damo

Hi once again.

After using the calculators listed here, and actually trying one of the rims on for size, I think I am all good to go to buy some tyres.

I have confirmed now that the wheels are 17x7 ET30, I'm now trying to decide on tyres to suit. From the calculator results both 205x50 and 215x45 look to give similar results, as far a circumference goes.

Can anyone suggest which of these would be a better set up? Or suggest another size?

Cheers.

AMGDave

17x7.0 ET30 should work ok all around. I'd put a 225-45-17 tire on there, second choice 215-45-17.

murky damo

Thanks for the advice dave. They look great on. No scraping with just my weight, hopefully I'll be ok with a car load of ppl too... I'll put up some pictures once I clean them.

XJguy

Anyone know if they will fit or have pictures of 17" CL600 wheels on a W124?

stormtigers

Without knowing what year it is my first answer would be NO.

Later model MB's have M14x1.5 bolt thread ! W124 is M12x1.5 bolt thread.

You would need adapter plate to fit